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Town of Lansing
Monday, June 13 , 2005 7 : 15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Nancy Loncto, Chairperson * Tom Ellis
* Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson
* Viola Miller * David Hatfield
* Gregg Travis Brian Ivery (Alt.)
* Bud Shattuck, Deputy Town Supervisor
* Richard Platt, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
Public Present
Connie Wilcox Eileen Wilcox
Stephen Cardamone Floyd Wilcox
• Timothy Buhl Richard Lobdell
Tom Besemer Jerome Hass
Dave Lippert Rev. Scott Kubinski
Kevin Jacobs Ronald Preston
Dan Dryer Bill Kirk
Jean Kirk Matt Besemer
Thomas Schickle
General Business :
Nancy Loncto Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7 : 15 PM. Ms .
Loncto began by reading the legal notice published in the Ithaca Journal regarding the
Public Hearing for All Saints Church. Ms . Loncto opened the floor for Public comment.
All Saints Church-Public Hearing - Final Site Plan Review
Thomas Schickle presented a Site Plan map of revisions made to expand the existing
parking lot. Mr. Schickle gave a brief refresher of the overall project as previously
proposed. Approximately 25 parking spaces have been added to the plan. The secondary
driveway coming out on route 34 will be eliminated. At a previous meeting lighting was
an issue . Mr. Schickle indicated that the church has deep over hangs and the lighting will
be in the soffits . The lights on the side of the church will give some residual light
• however, no broadcast other than a reflection from the service of the church. The area
that will be disturbed is approximately 35 ,000 SF which is under the requirements for a
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SPEDES Permit. This church is registered with the State of NY. All Saints is working
11, with Steve Mabee from the Tompkins County Health Department with regards to using
the existing septic system.
Lin Davidson made a motion to close the Public Hearing. Larry Sharpsteen seconded.
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Lin Davidson completed the SEQR. Lin Davidson made a motion to declare a negative
declaration. Larry Sharpsteen seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to accept the Site Plan. David Hatfield seconded.
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Eileen and Floyd Wilcox (Richard Lobdell), 1 Lot Subdivision, Farrell
Road, Tax Parcel # 39.-1 - 19
Richard Lobdell appeared before the board requesting that the board grant Mr. & Mrs .
Wilcox approval for a 1 lot Subdivision. The Wilcoxs ' intend on purchasing a 5 acre
section of the property and build a residential home. The dimensions are approximately
210 ft. wide by 1 ,023 ft. deep . A small portion in the north corner is considered
Wetlands .
• Larry Sharpsteen suggested that the board state for the records that due to adjacent
Wetland, proximity of the UNA and the other traffic conditions on Farrell Road that this
will never be considered for further Subdivision.
David Herrick, Lansing Town Engineer had the following to offer:
Re : Farrell Road Subdivision — Wilcox
Dear Ms . Loncto ,
Per your request, I 've reviewed the subdivision sketch attached to the application and offer the
following comment:
1 . The north end of Parcel 39- 1 - 19 abutts areas identified as wetlands on the US Department of
Interior National Wetlands inventory. The Inventory includes many smaller potential wetland
areas not recognized by the NYSDEC 12 acre threshold . The sketch suggests a new home
will be constructed within 300 feet of Farrell Road . If this is the case then land filling and
home construction will not approach the area delineated on the Inventory. if there is any
doubt about the presence of Federal wetlands within 300 feet of the road a preliminary
assessment could be performed by an environmental specialist. The assessment typically
includes a field visit followed by a brief report and preliminary map of what could potentially
be Federal wetlands . Formal delineation of wetland boundaries and permitting through the
US Army Corps of Engineers would be the next step if it was clear that a project was
disturbing or filling a Federal wetland .
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Mr. Lobdell does not intend on selling off additional acres of his property at this time,
• however, the Board did advise him that planning of a Subdivision looks more favorable .
Lin Davidson completed the SEQR. Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to declare a
negative declaration. Dave Hatfield seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to waive the Public Hearing. David Hatfield seconded.
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to accept the Subdivision of property as presented with
the statement that the Planning Board would not permit further Subdivision due to the
proximity of the Wetland and difficulty with frontage. Viola Miller seconded. VOTE
AS FOLLOWS :
Larry Sharpsteen — Aye
David Hatfield —Aye
Thomas Ellis — Aye
Viola Miller — Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
Nancy Loncto — Aye
Greg Travis — Abstained
MOTION CARRIED.
• Larry Sharpsteen clarified for the record that it is NOT required by The Town of Lansing
Subdivision Rules and Regulations nor is it normal to have an announcement to
surrounding property owners for a 1 Lot Subdivision.
Stephen Cardamone, Preliminary Plat-Major (4) Lot Subdivision
Teeter Road — Parcel # 37. 1 -7- 18, R1 District.
Timothy Buhl, PE appeared before the Planning Board with a Preliminary Plat of a
proposed (4) four lot Major Subdivision for the Teeter Road area.
David Herrick, Town of Lansing Engineer offered the following :
Re: Teeter Road Subdivision — Steve Cardamone
Dear Ms . Loncto ,
I 've reviewed the Preliminary Plat submission drawings numbered ST- 1 through ST-5 and offer
the following comments :
Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan
1 . This Land Development Activity is subject to the requirements of the Town 's Local Law #1 —
Stormwater and Erosion Control . The general temporary and permanent controls included in
• the drawings are a good beginning to fulfilling the requirements of the Law. I 'd be available at
Mr. Buhl 's convenience to meet and discuss the balance of the items necessary to finalize
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the Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan . It is expected that the SPPP be included with the
• Preliminary Plat application . If the Planning Board chooses to grant approval it must include a
condition that the SPPP be completed in conformance with the Local Law prior to Final Plat
approval . There are no permanent facilities proposed for dedication to the Town so review by
the Town Board does not appear necessary.
Consolidated Water District Extension
1 . The four proposed parcels are outside of the present boundary of the Town Consolidated
Water District. It will be necessary for the developer to request that the Town Board include
this land in the District through an extension . A brief Engineer's Report and SEQR Short EAF
should be submitted to the Town Clerk as soon as practicable . The Town Board could
schedule a public hearing soon thereafter. Again , if the Planning Board chooses to grant
approval it must include a condition that the District extension process be completed prior to
issuing any building permits .
2 . The watermain extension design should include a profile .
3 . Once completed , the watermain design and details must also be reviewed by Bolton Point
Staff and approved by the Tompkins County Health Department .
Thomas Ellis stated for the records that he has received a complaint from one of the
people in the neighborhood regarding previous flooding. Mr. Buhl indicated that there
will be a side yard swale which should help the existing residents .
• Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to set the Public Hearing for consideration of this
application for July 11 , 2005 at 7 : 30 PM. Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN
FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mark & Matthew Holochuck, Sketch Plan, 4 Lot Subdivision, North
Triphammer Road, Parcel # 41 -1 -29.2
Timothy Buhl agent for the Holochucks ' appeared before the Planning Board with a
Sketch Plan of a proposed 4 Lot Subdivision. The Subdivision will consist of
approximately 4. 9 acres of land. There will be 2 front lots, and 2 flag lots. 1 common
driveway will be used. The lots are in a Water District and onsite septic systems will be
installed. An easement would be given to the Town to run water to the back lots .
David Herrick offered the following;
Re : North Triphammer Road Subdivision — Holochuck
Dear Ms . Loncto ,
I 've reviewed the Sketch Plan submission drawing numbered ST- 1 and offer the following
comments :
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2 . Access to Lots 3 and 4 is presumably via a private drive in lieu of a Town road . Lots 1 and 2
also utilize the private drive to N . Triphammer. If this is a practice that the Town encourages
then legal agreements should be drafted and submitted as part of the preliminary plat
submission to define the person (s) or entity responsible for perpetual maintenance of the
drive. The communal relationships inherently required of this concept could break down with
subsequent landowners and the Town may be expected to `resolve' a neighborhood dispute
by taking ownership and maintenance of a substandard drive . Mr. Krogh should advise on the
acceptability of this proposal and any legal planning that would follow if the developer
proceeds further.
Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan
2 . This Land Development Activity is subject to the requirements of the Town's Local Law #1 —
Stormwater and Erosion Control . The general temporary and permanent controls included in
the sketch are a good beginning to fulfilling the requirements of the Law. I 'd be available at
Mr. Buhl 's convenience to meet and discuss the balance of the items necessary to finalize
the Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan . It is noted that the SPPP be included with the
Preliminary Plat application . There are no permanent facilities proposed for dedication to the
Town so review by the Town Board does not appear necessary.
Consolidated Water District
4 . The four proposed parcels are within the Town Consolidated Water District. It will be
necessary for the developer to identify the location of proposed water service connections
and provide details for connecting to the main on the west side of N . Triphammer Road .
Larry Sharpsteen suggested that 4 curb stops be out in front. Mr. Buhl states that can be
• done.
Nancy Loncto inquired if there was any intention or thought of the main drive from
Triphammer cutting through to another piece of property in back of the existing property.
Mr. Buhl does not think it can happen.
Nancy Loncto has requested to hear from the Town Engineer in regards to a Fire Truck
being able to get to the back residents. Mr. Buhl states he was looking at extending the
water main to put in a hydrant. To date he has not spoken with Bolton Point or David
Herrick in regards to this .
Members had concerns regarding the shared driveway. It was suggested. that Mr. Buhl
and Mr. Herrick look into samples that the Town of Ithaca uses.
Anthony Massi, Informal Sketch Plan, 3 Lot Subdivision, 14 Pheasant
Way, Parcel # 40.-3-28. 1
Mr. Massi appeared before the Planning Board with a proposed sketch plan of a 3 lot
Subdivision. Neighbor Ronald Preston has approached Mr. Massi in regards to putting in
a road on the Massi property in order to access the Preston property as they would like to
future develop it. On the south side of the Massis ' property is the Bland Subdivision.
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It was suggested that the Code Enforcement Office obtain from the County Planning
• Department a large map of the area to include properties owned by Bland, Thaler, Preston
and Massi for future reference .
The landowners were advised the lots are unusable until the road is built and the swap on
the land is done, except for the 1 lot on Massi ' s property.
William Kirk, Informal Discussion-Garden Center — 400 Auburn Road,
Parcel # 28 .-1 -28.4
Mr. Kirk appeared before the Planning requesting feedback from the Planning Board with
regards to opening a Garden Center. Currently there is a Landscaping business on the
site. Mr. Kirk would basically like to formalize the business to include selling his items
as a retailer.
Mr. Kirk has been advised that he must include/show the forms of parking. This would
be a Site Plan Review for the expansion of an existing building.
Nancy Loncto advised Mr. Kirk to look through the Ordinance and determine what
scripter is closest to his long-term intent.
Larry Sharpsteen advised Mr. Kirk that the Planning Board will be looking closely at the
lighting, signage, and drainage.
Other Business :
Connie Wilcox, Town Board Member and Liaison to the Lansing Fire Department voiced
her concerns regarding private driveways and large emergency vehicles. Mrs . Wilcox
• states taxpayers expect to get certain services when they own a home in Lansing and the
Planning Board must be conscience of how trucks are going to be able to get into the
drives. Mrs. Wilcox further stated at the last Fire District meeting it was brought up that
they are not involved in what is going on in the Town. Recently the Code Enforcement
Office has provided the Fire Department with copies of the Town Board reports that will
help to keep them up to date on Building issues. It was agreed that the Planning Board
would invite the Fire Department to their September working meeting.
Rob Hall, Stormwater Drainage information was not provided. Postponed until the next
meeting.
Approval of May 9, 2005 Minutes
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to accept the minutes as submitted. Lin Davidson
seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Further Discussion- Special Use Permit
Thomas Ellis stated that he felt the Planning Board did not take enough time with
discussion regarding the recommendation to the Town Board for a Special Use Permit for
Hygear Suspension.
Nancy Loncto, Chairperson advised Mr. Ellis that she felt the Board spent a large amount
of time on discussion regarding this topic that the minutes do not reflect, nor do they need
to . Larry Sharpsteen also agreed with Ms. Loncto and felt that all avenues were covered.
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• Nancy Loncto proposed that once the Comprehensive Plan is completed that the Planning
Board review the Permit document that was previously proposed. This document is much
more detailed, to include Comprehensive Planning.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9 : 20 PM. Lin Davidson
seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Planning Board Meeting
June 13 , 2005 7 : 15 PM
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Agenda
• Time: Agenda Topics
7:15 PM All Saints Church -Public Hearing - Site Plan Review, 34
Ridge Road, Parcel #
7:30 PM Other Business - Anyone who wishes to address the
board
7:45 PM Rob Hall, Stormwater Drainage Plan, Storage Facility,
Auburn Road, Tax Parcel # 28.-1 -28.32
8:00 PM Eileen and Floyd Wilcox (Richard Lobdell), 1 Lot
Subdivision, Farrell Road, Tax parcel 39.-1 -19
8:15 PM Stephen Cardamone, Preliminary Plat - Major
Subdivision, Teeter Road, Parcel #
8:30 PM Mark & Matthew Holochuck, Sketch Plan, 4 Lot
Subdivision, North Triphammer Road, Parcel # 41 -1 -29.2
8:45 PM Anthony Massi, Informal Sketch Plan 3 Lot Subdivision,
14 Pheasant Way, Parcel # 40.3-28.1
9:00 PM William Kirk, Informal Discussion - Garden Center
400 Auburn Road, Parcel # 28.-1 -28.4
• 9:15 PM Approval of May 9, 2005 Minutes
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