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Town of Lansing
Monday, October 25, 2004 7 : 15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
Nancy Loncto, Chairperson * Tom Ellis
* Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson
* Viola Miller David Hatfield
* Gregg Travis * Brian Ivery (Alt.)
* Bud Shattuck, Deputy Town Supervisor
* Richard Platt, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
* David Herrick, P.E.
Public Present
Harris Jones
Ken Gorton
• Mathew Sullivan
Anthony Hay
Larry Fabbroni
Richard Thaler
General Business :
Lin Davidson, Acting Chairman called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7 : 15 PM .
Davidson began by opening the floor up for Public Comments .
Mathew Sullivan of 204 Conlon Road requested that the Planning Board reconsider
changing their Ordinance regarding setback footage in the R3 district. Mr. Sullivan plans
on erecting a 3 car garage in the Spring and realizes he must apply for a Variance,
however, he feels the Planning Board should take a look at the setback requirements for
the entire town and strongly consider changing them back to the lesser requirement.
Richard Platt explained that the Code Enforcement is currently establishing a list of
possible changes/suggestions for the Planning Board to review at a later date.
Harris Jones, 1 Lot Subdivision, 204 Lansing Station Road, Parcel # 15 .-
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Kenneth Gorton, owner and prospective buyer Harris Jones appeared before the Planning
Board requesting a 1 Lot Subdivision. According to Greg Travis, all the necessary
requirements have been met.
Larry Sharpsteen brought before the board that after reviewing the SEQR Workbook he
did not find anything indicating that the SEQR must be completed line for line . Everyone
is familiar enough with the form to determine whether or not any of the items will be
answered differently, than they normally would. Mr. Sharpsteen made a motion that Mr.
Davidson complete the SEQR indicating only the effects where the addition of a single
dwelling would make some difference, as in energy use and solid waste. Viola Miller
seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Lin Davidson completed the SEQR. Lin Davidson made a motion to declare a negative
declaration. Viola Miller seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to waive the Public Hearing. Greg Travis seconded.
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Anthony Hay-Informal Discussion, 1 Lot Subdivision/Boundary Change
— Myers Road, Parcel # 32 .- 1 -37.422
At the September 27, 2004 Planning Board Meeting, Anthony Hay was advised by the
board to obtain information on constructing a Hammerhead in order for a 3 Lot
Subdivision. Mr. Hay stated that constructing a Hammerhead is cost prohibited for him,
• and he would like to propose a 2 Lot Subdivision. Mr. Hay intends to built a home for
himself on a portion of Lot A, sell Lot B and give Lot C to Brian Walawender for access .
Eventually The Hay' s will sell the home that they will be building, and build another one
further down lot A. They do realize at that time, a road will need to be built. After
reviewing the map presented, it was determined that Mr. Hay' s request was reasonable.
Larry Sharpsteen suggested that Mr. Hay consider the shape of the lots and location as
this will need a Public Hearing. The Planning Board requested that Mr. Hay return with
the Survey Map . The SEQR will be completed at that time
Richard Thaler, Whispering Pines Subdivision-Phase V, Final Platt
Parcel # 40 .-3 -2 . 1
Mr. Thaler advised the Board Members that Mr. Fabbroni has spoken with David
Herrick, Lansing Town Engineer in regards to revisions that have been requested by Mr.
Herrick. In addition, The Health Department has not given their final approval, as they
are currently reviewing the Septic System design. Mr. Thaler again reiterated that he
would like to name the road Tiger Lily Lane.
David Herrick offered the following comments :
Dear Ms. Loncto,
• I offer the Planning Board the following comments in response to additional information submitted by Mr. Fabbroni to me on October
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Water System Extension
1 . Proposed Lot 22 is not located within the boundary of the Town's Consolidated District. I will suggest to Supervisor Farkas
that the Town Board consider a "back-lot extension" at the regular November meeting. It is assumed that the 60 foot wide
future Town road is part of Lot 22 such that an easement from Mr. Thaler for the long water service won't be necessary. If
this is not correct then Mr. Fabbroni should clarify ownership on the Subdivision Plat.
2. The water valve and piping details for connecting to a future higher pressure zone should be shown at a scale that clearly
defines the necessary construction both vertically and horizontally. The layout of valves should also be shown in plan view
together with some notation of how connections will be made (i .e. tapping sleeve and valve at Warren Road). All water
system related plans, profiles, details and specifications should be finalized in a manner suitable for approval by the
Tompkins County Health Department.
Road Extension
1 . Driveways for Lots 24 and 29 should connect to the new road and not Warren Road . A note should be added to the
Subdivision Plat to make this clear.
2. Since Warren Road is a County Highway, the Town should receive an approval letter
from the County engineer for the intersection design before Final Subdivision approval.
Stormwater Management
• 1 . Mr. Thaler will retain ownership and maintenance responsibilities for the stormwater management facility. It will be
necessary to develop a maintenance agreement with the Town together with a permanent easement for access. The
Town Attorney is familiar with this documentation and should be consulted. Further, the access drive should be located on
the Subdivision Plat in addition to the general note #7 and appropriate
construction details (per the description on page 11 of the Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan) included in the final
documents.
2. A permanent drainage easement is described on the Subdivision Plat in note #7 for Lot 30. Should it be for Lot 31 ?
3. I still recommend that proposed grading of all roadside ditches and side/rear yard swales are included in the final
documents. All new culverts should include invert elevations. The culvert crossing at Sta 11 +50 is labeled 18" but is 24"
on the plan sheet. Per the Town Highway Specification those portions of the roadside ditch exceeding 5% must be lined
with suitable rip-rap.
4. An erosion and sediment control plan was provided in previous submissions, but, was not included in the recent set. I'll
need to review this plan at the earliest opportunity.
Larry Fabbroni indicated that access to the retention pond would be via lot #22 if the
Town should need it in the future .
Thomas Ellis inquired who would maintain the ponds. Bud Shattuck indicated that Mr.
Thaler owns and has the responsibility to maintain the ponds .
• David Herrick explained that the Town is in the process of developing a Stormwater
Management Agreement Ordinance. Currently the Town has a draft that they are using in
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11, the Dutch Mill Park. This draft explains who is responsible for inspections, and how
many times per year this gets inspected. This particular facility is responsible for their
own maintenance however, if for some reason the Town has to provide it, a fee will be
charged to the owner.
It was the consensus of the Planning Board Members that all corrections be included on
the drawings prior to the Public Hearing. Mr. Thaler and Mr. Fabbroni were advised if
the conditions are not meet, there will be no Public Hearing. The Public Hearing was set
for Monday, November 8 , 2004 at 7 : 15 PM.
David Herrick stated that the developing of the Maintenance Agreement and permanent
easement access for this facility may be delayed. Mr. Herrick does not believe this is
doable within a two week period. Mr. Fabbroni indicated that could be a condition of the
Chairperson signing the Final Plat .
General Dynamics Network-Cingular Communication Tower, 425
Conlon Road, Parcel # 28.-1 . 1
Ryan Janowski, agent for Cingular Wireless appeared before the Planning Board with a
request to erect a 195 ' self support tower to provide wireless coverage in the immediate
area. A 70 ' x 70 ' compound with a 6 ' chain linked fence with bob wired fence top .
Everything would be confined within this compound to include a 11 ' x 20 ' closed shelter
and the tower. Special attention has been given to place the tower as far back off the road
as possible . Mr. Janowski presented a map showing all the properties boundaries within
. 500 ' , and a circumferences of 1000 ' of any residences . The power and telephone lines
from the road will be buried 36" underground along the access road.
Bud Shattuck indicated that the town has an Ordinance that indicates there is a height
limit of 80 ' . Mr.Janowski indicated if height was an issue, their Engineer can address the
issue. Bud Shattuck further stated that if they wanted to sight something higher than the
80 ' or where it is not cultivated, a barn silo could be utilized. Larry Sharpsteen brought it
to the members attention that the current Ordinance does not have a height limitation.
Greg Travis inquired how long the lease would be . Mr. Janowski stated 25 years total. 5
initial , and 4 additional consecutive 5 year periods . The lease also includes bondage for
removal .
Thomas Ellis suggested that the fence be 8 ' as oppose to 6 ' . Lin Davidson stated he
would like to see a gate at the end of the driveway.
Larry Sharpsteen inquired about the foundation details . Mr. Janowski indicated that they
are designed by the manufacturer. To Mr. Janowski ' s knowledge there has never been an
instance when one foundation has come loose . Larry Sharpsteen advised Mr. Janowski
that the Planning Board will require drawings for the foundation stamped by a New York
State Licensed Engineer.
Ryan Janowski indicated there are no lights or monitoring required by the FAA on this
structure. Larry Sharpsteen stated he would like to see a strobe light on this . Mr.
Janowski stated lighting was totally out of his control.
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Bud Shattuck advised the Planning Board that they will be responsible for the Site Plan
review process, the Town Board will be the lead Agency giving the Public Hearing, and
making the final decision.
Mr. Janowski will request from there Engineers to make the fence 8 ' with bob wire at the
top to extend it closer to 10 ' . A gate or cable/chain with a lock and anchored bollards at
the entry way. In addition, the stamped foundation drawings.
Mr. Janowski inquired if the Removal Bond would be required from the Town even
though it is addressed in the lease. Bud Shattuck advised Mr. Janowski that the Town
Board would only require them to meet what the Code says, and that is $25 , 000 . 00 .
Mr. Janowski will return on Monday, November 8 , 2004 for the Site Plan changes .
Recommendations will be made to the Town Board, at which time they will set a Public
Hearing date .
Approval of September 13 , 2004 & September 27, 2004 Minutes
Viola Miller made a motion to accept the September 13 , 2004 minutes as submitted.
Larry Sharpsteen seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED .
Lin Davidson made a motion to accept the September 27, 2004 minutes as submitted.
Thomas Ellis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Other Business : Miller/Sloan , Parcel # 44- 1 -43 .2 — 117 Horizon Drive
• Viola Miller brought before the board a request to have a boundary revision done on a
parcel of land (back lot) she previously offered the option to Gary Sloan to purchase in
2002 . Mr. Sloan has now exercised his right to take the land. Mr. Sloan had the survey
map completed. According to Mrs . Miller ' s knowledge, there will be no building on this
lot, as there is no access to it.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to accept this as a boundary change. Greg Travis
seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to waive the Public Hearing. Greg Travis seconded .
VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Thomas Ellis made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8 : 53 PM . Larry Sharpsteen
seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Planning Board Meeting
October 25 , 2004 7 : 15 PM
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Agenda
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Agenda Topics
7:15 PM Harris Jones, 1 Lot Subdivision - 204 Lansing Station
Road, Parcel # 15.-1 -23.2
7:30 PM Anthony & Jana Hay, 2 Lot Subdivision, Myers Road,
Parcel # 32-1 -37.422
7:45 PM Richard Thaler, Whispering Pines Subdivision - Phase V,
Final Plat, Parcel # 40.-3-2.1
8:00 PM Ryan Janowski, Agent for. General Dynamics Network,
Site Plan Review - Communication Tower, 425 Conlon
Road, Parcel # 28.-1 .1
8:30 PM Approval of September 13, 2004 & September 27, 2004
Minutes
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