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Town of Lansing
Monday, July 12 , 2004 7 : 15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Nancy Loncto, Chairperson * Tom Ellis
Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson
* Viola Miller * David Hatfield
* Gregg Travis * Brian Ivery (Alt.)
* Bud Shattuck, Deputy Town Supervisor
* Richard Platt, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
* David Herrick, P.E.
Public Present
Alvin Feldzamen Andrew Sciarabba
Robert Bland Charles Crandall
• Vicki Bland Debbie Crandall
Vince Mehringer George Frantz
Dolores Hicks John Hicks
Christopher Muka Timothy Buhl
Ronald Ronsvalle James Bentkowski
Daniel Signore Thomas Schickel
General Business :
Nancy Loncto called the meeting to order at 7 : 15 PM. Ms . Loncto opened the floor up
for public comments and or questions .
Alvin Feldzaman addressed the Planning Board with three (3) concerns .
1 . That a line be painted down the center of Waterwagon Road.
2 . Previously Mr. Feldzaman requested that the Town consider installing speed
bumps to slow down thru traffic between Warren Road and Whispering Pines if
and when a road is built. An objection was raised that the Highway Department
(snowplows) do not like speed bumps . Mr. Feldzaman advised the board that
they have removable ones in Myers Park.
3 . Urged the Board to take into consideration any large amount of new housing that
• would further harm the water pressure in the Whispering Pines area.
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• Bud Shattuck advised Mr. Feldzaman to attend the Town Board meeting to discuss the
first two issues . David Herrick advised the Board and Mr. Feldzaman that Whispering
Pines is proposing to hook into Warren Road, this will help ensure maintaining the water
pressure.
Pheasant Meadow Subdivision, Public Hearing, Final Plat-Phase I, Tax
Parcel # 40.-3 -29. 2
Nancy Loncto opened the Public Hearing at 7 : 17 PM . Ms . Loncto began by reading the
Legal Notice published in The Ithaca Journal. The floor was opened for Public comment.
Vince Mehringer stated he is in favor of this development and appreciates the
cooperation of the Blands and everyone involved . Mr. Mehringer questioned the general
timing of the road construction.
Robert Bland responded by stating that once final approval has been given by the
Planning Board, the Town Board must give final approval of the establishment of a
drainage district and then final Health Department approval on the booster presser system
will follow. A few technical changes need to be made per David Herrick prior to the
signing of the Final Plat. The Bland ' s are hoping to have finalization in late July and
proceed with the road construction in mid August.
Nancy Loncto shared information that Mr. Herrick provided to Dick Platt on this date
regarding conditions that must be approved to his satisfaction. Timothy Buhl did provide
Mr. Herrick on this date with additional drawings that had some of the condition.s added.
• See below conditions that must be meet.
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July 12, 2004
Mr. Richard Plan
Code Enforcement Officer
Town of Lansing
Lansing, New York 14882
Re: Final Submission
Pheasant Meadow Subdivison
Dear Mr. Plan,
.I reviewed the various revised documents received on. 'July 6, 2004 and have listed the following technical
items to be corrected or provided prior to signing of the final plat by the Planning Board Chair.
Drawing SWEC- 1 (dated 7/5/04 )
1 . Add grading on the drawing to define a swale between. the Bland parcel and the Mehringer parcel
to ensure that runoff from the westerly lots is directed to the southwest detention pond.
2. Culvert slopes on the "A" and "B " roads are still shown incorrectly.
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3 . Add a note that the rock check dams are a temporary erosion control practice and will each be
• removed once the surrounding site soils are stabilized .
Drawing SWEC-2 (dated. 715/04)
1 . Detail I should be labeled a rock check darn.
2 . Details 3 and 4 .include note references that don't appear applicable to either the Land Grading
Specifications or General Notes . This should be clarified .
Drawing SWEC-3 (dated 7/5/04)
1 . Revise Detail 9A to eliminate the trash rack, provide a recessed grate in lieu of the raised frame;
and include an alternative extended detention outlet pipe .riser.
2 . Detail 9 is not the correct outlet representation for Pond #2 .
Drawing ST-4 ( dated July 4, 2004)
I . The cross-sections should be reviewed and revised by Mr. Whitney, P. E . for coordination of
details, specifically the outlet control structures.
2 . The intersection of rroadside ditches and the pond forebays should be evaluated for erosion
potential .
• 3 . Forebays should include an underdrain connected to the primary basin and the overflow weir
detail. should be clearly referenced at all weir locations.
4. For the stone level spreader .i.n Section B-B provide a longitudinal section reflecting the actual
grading in the vicinity of the property line. Also show the horizontal distances from the property
lines/monuments to the nearest edges of the spreader.
5 . Identify on the sections what will be provided as permanent vegetation (i.e. seed mix, plants etc . )
Site Specifications (dated May, 2004 )
1 . The material requirements of many of the specifications within Section 02100 (General Site
Work) are not consistent with the Town 's highway and water system. standards. Although there
are references in the General Site Work specifications to use the Tow71 's standards the
differences are so 'numerous and significant as to likely cause too much confusion during
construction. It is recommended that the General. Site Work section be re-written and
specifically that the materials for roads, water and drainage are consistent with. the Town ' s
published information. I can provide guidance to the engineer as needed.
I: am comfortable that these remaining details can. be resolved quickly amongst the engineers and perhaps
included as a condition of final approval. Feel free to call me if you have any questions or comments on the
items above. Thank. you.
Sincerely,
• David A. Herrick. P. E. •
Planning Board Meeting 7- 12-04
Cc: S . Farkas, Town Supervisor
• J. French, Town Highway Superintendent
G. Krogh, Town Attorney
T. Buhl, P .G.
R. Bland
Lin Davidson made a motion to close the Public Hearing. Thomas Ellis seconded.
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Greg Travis made a motion to accept the Subdivision as proposed with the contingencies
as described in David Herrick ' s letter regarding Stormwater. Thomas Ellis seconded.
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Lansing Center Associates, Site Plan Review, 17 Ridge Road, Parcel #
31 .-6-10
Mr. Bentkowski, Vice President for Lansing Center Associates briefly answered
questions for the board.
After reviewing the map that was presented, Gregg Travis inquired to know if this is one
( 1 ) whole tax parcel or two .
James Bentkowski advised that there are two (2) tax parcels involved. The actual old
firehouse is on one and an additional storage building is split between both.
• Gregg Travis asked if there are future plans for the other vacant parcel as the Planning
Board will consider what the plans are for this parcel and how it will fit in with the other.
Mr. Bentkowski advised the board that the future use would depend on if they have to
install a sewer system on it.
David Herrick reviewed his concerns with the board and they were as follows :
• I recommend the Board request a grading and drainage plan to clarify the routing
and discharge location(s) of the site stormwater. Since the total site disturbance is
less thanl acre it appears the project would not be subject to SPDES GP-02-01
unless the NYSDOT required attenuation of peak flows for any runoff directed to
the State ditch..
o The NYSDOT should be asked by the applicant to provide a preliminary approval.
of the curb cut designs .
® Location. Knowledge of existing septic system.
Richard Platt advised the Planning Board that for this district (B1 ) and type of Use, Site
Plan is not required. Mr. Platt invited Mr. Ronsvalle to present their plans to the
Planning Board for suggestions and comments .
• Lin Davidson stated the Planning Board would be looking for:
1 . Site lighting
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2 . Relationship/easements to other lots
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3 . Curb cuts
4. Parking Spaces
Thomas Schickel, Architect for Lansing Center Associates gave a short presentation.
Mr. Schickel explained the building is a two two story structure and the intent of the
building is to occupy it with an office, retail or potentially a non bar restaurant. The
current parking plan consists of 28 spaces for offices, 16 for the restaurant, and 2
handicap . A loading area will be located in the back of the building, as well as a storage
area for trash. The Main lighting will be on the building, some lighting will be under
the canopies. Signage size and location is unsure at this time as it depends on the
tenants .
Gregg Travis suggested because Lansing Associates owns the two (2) parcels that they
should give it thought about doing a lot line change to keep it as two (2) parcels so they
can incorporate the full building that is now split into two (2) parcels .
Thomas Ellis stated a new septic system could not be installed on the existing site for
lack of space . For future resale it would be in the best interest for the owners to have the
septic system on the same tax parcel.
Gregg Travis offered the following comments that the Planning Board will look at for the
Preliminary Review :
• 1 . Drainage
2 . Proposed location of septic system on the lot. The Planning Board would like to
see the lot line changed so that the septic system and the additional building are
included in one parcel .
3 . NYDOT should give Preliminary approval for curb cut design.
Charles & Debbie Crandall, 1 Lot Subdivision, 460 Ridge Road, Parcel
# 32 .- 1 - 1 .3
Mr. & Mrs . Crandall appeared before the Planning Board requesting a 1 Lot Subdivision.
The lot size will be approximately 1 '4 to 1 1/4 acre with 235 feet road frontage by 264 '
by 150 ' . Lin Davidson completed the SEQR. Lin Davidson made a motion to declare a
negative declaration . David Hatfield seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Gregg Travis made a motion to waive the Public Hearing.
Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY. Thomas Ellis made a motion to accept this 1 Lot Subdivision
pending the final survey. Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
• John Stevens , Preliminary/Final Plat, 1 Lot Subdivision, Hillcrest Roads
Parcel # 44 .- 1 -5 .31
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George Frantz appeared before Planning Board on behalf of Mr. Stevens . Mr. Frantz is
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requesting a 1 Lot Subdivision. The lot sizes will be 53 ,250sq. ft and 55 ,200 sq. ft. in
area. Mr. Frantz stated the lots are not in a water district. David Herrick stated that the
final map must be signed and sealed by a licensed Land Surveyor. The map presented to
the Planning Board was signed and sealed by an Engineer. Lin Davidson completed the
SEQR. Lin Davidson made a motion to declare a negative declaration. David Hatfield
seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Gregg
Travis made a motion to waive the Public Hearing. Lin Davidson seconded . VOTE :
Gregg Travis-Aye, Lin Davidson-Aye, Thomas Ellis-Aye, David Hatfield-Aye, Nancy
Loncto-Aye, Viola Miller —Abstained. Motion Carried . Gregg Travis made a motion to
approve the Subdivision as a 1 Lot Subdivision contingent upon a Final Survey. Lin
Davidson seconded. VOTE : Gregg Travis-Aye, Lin Davidson-Aye, Thomas Ellis-Aye,
David Hatfield-Aye, Nancy Loncto-Aye, Viola Miller —Abstained. Motion Carried
Andrew Sciarabba, 1 Lot Subdivision Ridge Road & Myers Road,
Parcel # 32 .- 1 -37.424 & 32 .-1 -36. 1
Andrew Sciarabba appeared before the Planning Board requesting a 1 lot Subdivision as
previously presented to the Planning Board on June 14, 2004 . One lot will be
approximately 30 acres and the other lot approximately 70 acres. Mr. Sciarabba states
they will be moving the lot line in order to allow a 20 ft. driveway to the 30 acre parcel.
The SEQR was completed at the June 14th meeting and a negative declaration was given.
• Also, the Public Hearing was waived. Gregg Travis made a motion to accept the 1 Lot
Subdivision as shown on the map presented to them. Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE :
ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
John Hicks, Revised Sketch Plan, Major Subdivision-Murfield Drive
Mr. Hicks appeared before the board with a revised Sketch Plan showing the entire Hicks
Acres Subdivision. The proposed Subdivision request at this time would consist of 4 Lots
on the very end of the existing Murfield Drive with the potential for 1 additional lot. The
lots are numbered 1 , 2, 3 & 4 .
Nancy Loncto advised Mr. Hicks that the Planning Board would like to see on a Sketch
Plan are any topography, water supply of sewage treatment.
Mr. Hicks stated that approximately 3 years ago David Herrick gave him approval on the
water. Larry Fraboni has received approval from John Anderson on the septic .
David Herrick had the following comments to offer:
Hicks Acres Subdivision.
a Lots 1 -4 were included in the Town ' s Water District #5 - 1 , now the Town.
Consolidated. Water District, in August 2001 with the understanding that the water
main extension would terminate in the vicinity of the Lot 3 -4 boundary due to the
• high main pressure . Water service to the balance of the proposed lots must be
extended from the main on. East Shore Drive.
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• o As plans are progressed the applicant will have to address permanent practices for
managing storniwater in accordance with SPDES GP-02-01 .
a The Board may wishto consider a reservation for a future street extensionto the
lands south of the development.
Gregg Travis made motion to declare this a Major Subdivision. Thomas Ellis seconded.
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Nancy Loncto requested to know from the members if there were any further comments
or than Mr. Herrick ' s to be considered in the Sketch Plan prior to the Preliminary Plat
that will be presented as the next step .
Gregg Travis made a motion to approve this as a Sketch Plan. Lin Davidson seconded.
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Uhrovick, M/Wright, C . Consolidation and Boundary Change, 578
Lansingville Road, Parcel #9.- 1 -30, 9.-1 -24 . 1 & 9.-1 -24 .3
Cindy Wright came before the Planning Board requesting to consolidate parcel 9„ 4 -24. 1
& 9 . 4 -24 . 3 so they may build a new home on the large lot. They will put in a 27 ft.
access drive. In addition they would like to change the boundary line on lot 9.- 1 -30 to
keep the property an entire 1 acre. Eventually parcel 9. - 1 -30 will be put on the market
• and sold. Currently there is a three bay garage that is on parcel 9 . - 1 -30 which the
Uhrocivk/Wrights are in the process of tearing down. Once gone that will give the
required road frontage.
Thomas Ellis made a motion to accept the proposed Sketch Plan that was submitted as a
Preliminary Plat Plan. The Uhrovick/Wrights ' must return with a Final stamped Survey
Map showing all the necessary requirements . Gregg Travis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN
FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Christopher Muka, 1 Lot Subdivision, Collins Road & Peruville Road,
Parcel # 38.-1 -4 . 12
Mr. Muka appeared before the Board requesting that he be granted a 1 Lot Subdivision as
he has a prospective buyer for the parcel . David Herrick made the following
recommendation:
Muka Subdivision
o There are no engineering issues associated with this application, however, the
Board should consider requiring the driveway curb cut to be located on Collins
Road as far from the Peruville Road intersection as possible.
• Lin Davidson completed the SEQR. Lin Davidson made a motion to declare a negative
declaration . David Hatfield seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED
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UNANIMOUSLY. Thomas Ellis made a motion to accept this 1 Lot Subdivision as
• proposed with the exception that the driveway be placed on Collins Road as far away
from the Peruville Road intersection as possible. David Hatfield seconded. VOTE : ALL
IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Lin Davidson made a motion to
waive the Public Hearing. David Hatfield seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Approval of June 14, 2004 Minutes
Due to Larry Sharpsteen, Secretary for the Planning Board being absent on this date, the
minutes of June 14, 2004 were not reviewed for approval. Approval of the minutes will
be on the Agenda for the next scheduled working meeting on July 26, 2004 .
Next Working Meeting, July 26, 2004
Nancy Loncto advised all members to review their updated copy of the Subdivision Rules
and Regulations that was either emailed to them, or hand delivered hard copy and come
prepared to discuss .
Richard Platt suggested that we add the NY Reality Laws (3 lots to include original-3
yrs) into our updated version of the Sub . Rules & Regulations. Nancy Loncto advised
Richard Platt to check with Guy Krogh regarding this insert. Copies should also be
provide to Jack French, Highway Superintendent and David Herrick, Town Engineer for
their comments and suggestions prior to the next meeting.
Viola Miller made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9 : 03 PM. Gregg Travis seconded.
• VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Planning Board Meeting
July 12 , 2004 7 : 15 PM
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Agenda
• Time: Agenda Topics
7:15 PM Robert & Vicki Bland, Public Hearing-Final Plat- Phase I,
Pheasant Meadows. Tax Parcel # 40.-3-29.2
7:45 PM Lansing Center Associates, Site Plan Review 17 Ridge Road,
Parcel # 31 .4-10
8:00 PM Charles & Debbie Crandall, 1 Lot Subdivision - 460 Ridge Road,
Parcel # 32:1 -1 .3
8:15 PM John Stevens, Preliminary/Final Plat, 1 Lot Subdivision, Hillcrest
Road, Parcel # 44.-15.31 .
8:45 PM John Hicks, Revised Sketch Plan, Major Subdivision, Murfield
Drive.
9:00 PM Michael Uhrovick & Cindy Wright, Consolidation and Boundry
Change, Parcels # 9:150, 9:1 .24.1 & 9.-1 -24.3 578 Lansingville
Road.
9:15 PM Christopher Muka, 1 Lot Subdivision, Penrville Road
9:30 PM Andrew Sciarabba, I Lot Subdivision, Ridge Road & Myers
Road. Parcel # 32.-1 -37.424 & 32:1 .36.1
. 9:45 PM Approval of June 14, 2004 Minutes