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Home My WebLink About2004-04-26 e 1 • Town of Lansing Monday, April 26 , 2004 7 : 15 PM PLANNING BOARD PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (*Denotes present) * Nancy Loncto, Chairperson * Tom Ellis Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson Viola Miller David Hatfield * Gregg Travis * Brian Ivery (Alt.) * Bud Shattuck, Deputy Town Supervisor * Richard Platt, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer Public Present Robert Bland Timothy Buhl • Vince Mehringer Thomas LiVigne General Business : Nancy Loncto called the meeting to order at 7 : 15 PM . Robert & Vicki Bland, Pheasant Meadow Subdivision, Revisions to Preliminary Plat, Parcel # 40.-3-29.2 Nancy Loncto explained to the Members that she spoke with David Herrick, the Town Engineer today and at Mr. Herrick ' s recommendation we accept this Preliminary Plat with conditions that the Town Board comes to a resolution around the Water Service and the retention before this Subdivision is finalized. Bud Shattuck spoke on behalf of the Town Board. Mr. Shattuck states the Board made a final decision at their April 21st meeting. The Town has gone forward with the approval of the Preliminary Roadway Layout and Preliminary Specifications but subject to such future technical details as may need to be resolved in the future by the Highway Superintendent and/or Town Engineer for Pheasant Meadow. Water issues as well as the Pump Station location were discussed. Mr. Shattuck explained further that the Town is working on the Storm Water Plan. At a recent State meeting that Mr. Shattuck attended, a mention was made that it is not a good idea for Municipalities to own in perpetuity the Wetlands that are created. There are a number of ways to go about this. One way is for the Municipalities to own them and create a Water District-Benefit District that would pay for that. Another way to go is to do what the Village does, and that is take ownership • of the property. The Village then allows the homeowners to use it and the Village maintains it. The third would be to have the property owners own it themselves . This is a Federal Stormwater Plan and all States are mandated to operate it. Currently David Herrick and Richard Platt are working with Jason Haremza, Regional Representative for one of the other Water Districts. Jason will be setting up a regional meeting for all Lake Water Partners and Municipalities to try and figure out the best way for them to deal with these problems . Mr. Shattuck states the Town Board is close to a month from making the final decisions on whether this is a landowner problem or Municipality problem, or possibly a combination of the two . Lin Davidson inquired as to where the Pump Station would be. Bud Shattuck states Mr. Bland agreed to place it on his property. Mr. Herrick approves this moving forward. A question that needs to be answered is who is going to take ownership of the Retention Ponds . Vince Mehringer closest neighbor to Pheasant Way states he appreciates the modifications to the location of the Pump House. Lin Davidson made a motion to approve Robert & Vicki Bland, Pheasant Meadows Major Subdivision Preliminary Plat with said contingencies suggested by David Herrick. Gregg Travis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. The long form SEQR will be completed at the May 10, 2004 meeting. Mr. Herrick will • be asked to attend. Nancy Loncto reviewed with Mr. Bland the next few steps of the process under The Subdivision Rules and Regulations Booklet, page 8 . Mr. Bland stated that he would be speaking with the Town Board as he is opposed to the Landowners owning the Retention Ponds. Mr. Bland feels this should be part of the road system. Mr. Shattuck encouraged Mr. Bland to discuss his concerns regarding the Retention Ponds ownership with Timothy Buhl. This topic will be up for discussion at the Town Board Meeting on May 19, 2004 possibly even adopting a solution. Cornell University, Final Plat, 4 Lot Major Subdivision — Teeter Road & Reach Run, Parcel # 36.-1 - 15.2 Nancy Loncto advised Board Members that Thomas LiVigne submitted a letter requesting that the Planning Board waive any further Public Hearings with regards to the Major Subdivision as proposed by the University. Cornell believes they have fulfilled all the requirements for a positive outcome. Mr. Platt spoke with the Tompkins County Planning Department, they didn ' t feel it was necessary for a submittal of a #239 review. In addition, Mr. Platt spoke with the Town Engineer regarding possible drainage issues . Mr. Herrick did not see any problems with drainage as it is currently in place. Erosion Sediment Control Plans can be done per lot by the Builder. • Bud Shattuck stated that The Town Board has no problem with this at all. Lin Davidson asked Mr. LiVigne if the boundary line situation had been resolved with • Mr. Besemer. Mr. LiVigne states he left it up to Mr. Besemer to get back in touch with him. To date he has not. Mr. LiVigne has spoken with the Surveyor, which they both use and he does not understand what Mr. Besemer is talking about with regards to any problems . Mr. LiVigne states if Cornell ' s survey is wrong and there is a problem in Mr. Besemer' s favor, Cornell is willing to do what is necessary to make it right for him. Bud Shattuck mentioned that the Town Board looked at not just the four (4) lots and the sewer aspects, but the fact that there may be other development down off Portland Point to the West at some point. Lin Davidson completed the short form SEQR. Lin Davidson made a motion to declare a negative declaration. Gregg Travis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Greg Travis made a motion that the 2°a Public Hearing for the Major Subdivision be waived. Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE : Nancy Loncto -Aye Lin Davidson -Aye Greg Travis -Aye Brian Ivery -Aye Thomas Ellis -Nay MOTION CARRIED . • Thomas Ellis states he does not feel the Planning Board should set precedence on a Major Subdivision. Mr. Ellis feels the plan is great, however, due to the number of concerned property owners that appeared before the Board at the 1St Public Hearing a 2' " hearing should be given. Greg Travis requested to know from the Planning Members as to what were the comments of the residents at the 1St Public Hearing. Nancy Loncto stated covenants, which are not for the Planning Board to comment on. Nancy asked about parking, no residents had questions regarding that. A concern of where the Pump Station would be located. Mr. Shattuck explained to the resident. Thomas Besemer, owner of Cayuga Crush Stone believes there may be a property line error, which he stated would not affect the proposed four (4) lot Subdivision. Thomas Ellis further stated his opinion saying on simple Major Subdivision he does not believe two (2) Public Hearings are needed. Lin Davidson said he does not disagree with Mr. Ellis, however, this is almost not a Major Subdivision. Landowners did not have express interest or a problem with people building there. • Nancy Loncto mentioned to Thomas LiVigne that she noticed he was ambushed after the • meeting by audience members . Nancy asked Mr. LiVigne if he could tell the Planning Board Members the demeanor of that particular incident. Mr. LiVigne states there were people who wanted to buy the property. Planning Board Members reviewed the Final Plat map previously submitted. No changes were made. Nancy Loncto continued to read portions of the Subdivision Rules & Regulations as it pertained to covenants and The Town Board signing off. The next Town Board meeting is scheduled for May 19, 2004. Bud Shattuck suggested that the Planning Board finish this at their next meeting on May 10, 2004 and make a recommendation to The Town Board that the covenants be accepted. Mr. LiVigne will return to the Planning Board on May 10, 2004 for Final Approval contingent upon Town Board Approval . Approval of April 12, 2004 Minutes Lin Davidson made a motion to correct the spelling on page 4, DEC Update burm to berm. Thomas Ellis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. • Bud Shattuck, Update- DEC, Watercraft Changes,Watershed Clean-up, Bellesario/Phillips Appeal Bud Shattuck advised the Members that the Town now has the completed contract from The DEC for Salt Point. The project will take effect this spring. The Personal Watercraft Ordinance has been passed. There will be changes made in the time from 8 : 00 AM to 9 : 00 AM. The footage of 250 ' will be changed to 500 ' @ 10 MPH to go out (skiers will be exempt) . On May 8 , 2004, Cayuga Lake Watershed / Network will be holding a Clean Up down at the Salt Point. Mr. Bellesario and Phillips have recently appealed to the ZBA. There appeal was based on an October 2003 ruling made by the Code Enforcement Officer stating that Site Plan Review was required for their Storage Buildings . A decision to deny the Appeal was made by the ZBA Board at their April 21 , 2004 meeting, reason being untimely, not within 60 days from the Officer' s ruling. Duthie-United Storage The Zoning Board of Appeals approved Mr. Duthie ' s Use Variance w/ conditions on April 1 , 2004. The conditions were that Mr. Duthie plant staggered Pine Trees every 8 feet behind the building. Lin Davidson questioned the Lighting. Bud Shattuck states Mr. Duthie must come back to the Planning Board for Site Plan Review and at that time the • Lighting issue can be addressed. Town of Lansing Record Storage Building Mr. Platt inquired if the new Town Storage Building that is to be erected is required to go through Site Plan Review. Bud Shattuck states yes, the Town must follow the rules . Doug McEver must present to the Planning Board a Plat showing how the new building orientates itself Changes and Additions to Subdivisions Nancy stated that she would get together with Viola and red line all the changes that Viola and Larry suggested. The second meeting in June will be strictly devoted to working on the Subdivisions Rules & Regulations, Flag Lots and Procedure for Minor Subdivisions . Nancy requested that we start the June 28th meeting at 6 : 00 PM with pizza. Bud Shattuck brought up his concern regarding the excess use of copy paper that is being printed out. Nancy Loncto stated she would put the corrections on an overhead. Lin Davidson made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8 :24 PM. Brian Ivery seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. 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