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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-11-10 - • • 8 Town of Lansing 9 Monday, November 10 , 2003i: 5/ PM PLANNING BOARD 10 - 11 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS 12 ('Denotes present) 13 * Nancy Loncto, Chairperson Tom Ellis 14 * Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson 15 * Viola Miller * David Hatfield 16 Gregg Travis Brian Ivery (Alt.) 17 * Bud Shattuck, Deputy Town Supervisor 18 * Richard Platt, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer 19 20 Public Present 21 Robert & Vicki Bland 22 John & Dolores Hicks • 23 Jon Bradford 24 Gary Wood 25 Nicholas Bellisario 26 Otis Phillips 27 Bradley Griffin 28 29 General Business : 30 Nancy Loncto called the meeting to order at 7 : 20 PM . 31 John Hicks , 1 Lot Subdivision , Waterwagon Road , Parcel # 42 .- 1 - 1 . 122 32 Mr. Hicks appeared before the board requesting a 1 lot Subdivision. Last February a 33 couple purchased land from Mr. Hicks that was adjacent to the West of this parcel . They 34 have since approached Mr. Hicks requesting to purchase this tax parcel even though they 35 do not plan to build on it. Originally this parcel was to be part of the original lot they 36 were to purchase however, their attorney advised them to purchase it separate . Mr. Hicks 37 was questioned as to whether he advised the perspective buyers that at this point they can 38 not get water on that parcel . Mr. Hicks states yes, they just want it for protection so no 39 one can get next to them. Drainage was discussed and agreed there are no issues . • 40 Larry Sharpsteen made a motion that after completion of the SEQR we accept this as a 1 41 Lot Subdivision, and waive the Public Hearing . David Hatfield seconded 4 • 1 David Hatfield completed the SEQR. A negative declaration was declared. Vote : Larry 2 Sharpsteen- Aye, David Hatfield-Aye, Nancy Loncto-Aye . Viola Miller- abstained . 3 Discussion of extending Muriel Drive to the West to the 4 lots 4 remaining. 5 Mr. Hicks is requesting the Planning Board ' s opinion prior to him investing time and 6 money into this idea. Mr. Hicks advised the board that he has previously discussed this 7 issue with Mr. Platt and Mr. Herrick. There is a large parcel available that a Contractor is 8 interested in purchasing and splitting it up into 4 lots . Chairperson, Nancy Loncto advised 9 Mr. Hicks that this is a Major Subdivision and as long as the perspective buyer refers to 10 the guidelines in the Subdivision Rule and Regulations he should be fine . It was 11 mentioned that at some point egress would have to be made to the South. The land behind 12 this parcel, the Town will look at it as developable . 13 14 Robert & Yield Bland, Sketch Plan - Major Subdivision-Pheasant Way, 15 Tax Parcel # 40 .-3 -29. 2 16 Mr. & Mrs . Bland appeared before the Planning Board with a Sketch Plan of their 17 proposed Major Subdivision. (see letter explaining proposal) John Anderson from The 18 Tompkins County Health Department will no longer approve individual house booster 19 pumps for the water supply system . David Herrick, Lansing Town Engineer has a plan to 20 install what ' s called a hydro pneumatic booster station. It is unsure at this time who is • 21 responsible for installing this station. Larry Sharpsteen stated for the record that the 22 Health Department is taking a little bit on themselves to state they are not going to 23 approve individual residential boosters . Mr. Sharpsteen questioned how they have the 24 authority to make that restriction on non public water systems, because it isn' t a public 25 water system once it leaves the corporate stops . Mr. Shattuck advised Mr. Bland that he 26 did not for see the Town allowing construction to begin before the road is approved and 27 accepted. The Town Board will make the determination when Building Permits can be 28 issued. Mr. & Mrs . Bland would like to start building their home without the road being 29 built, however, they would not have the required road frontage until after the road is 30 finished in phase 4 . Viola Miller advised Mr. Bland that before construction begins he 31 should be settling with the Town as to what the cost of the roads will be and putting up a 32 Performance Bond. 33 David Hatfield made a motion to accept the Sketch Plan as presented. Larry Sharpsteen 34 seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 35 36 37 38 39 • ti • Robert R. and Vicki D . Bland 36 Forest Acres Drive Ithaca New York , 14850 November 5, 2003 Mr. Richard G . Platt Code Enforcement Officer Town of Lansing Re: Pheasant Way Subdivision Tax Parcel No . 40.-3-29.2 Sketch Plan Submission Dear Mr. Platt: We are planning a major subdivision on Pheasant Way. The Planning Board reviewed a rough sketch in July 2003. Information that is required for sketch plan review is provided below: Location map : This is included on the enclosed drawing . A sketch drawing : This is enclosed . There are 17 lots proposed . In addition , the future road would allow another two lots - not part of our subdivision - to be created on the land owned by Massi to the North , at the northeast corner of the subdivision , along 300 feet of road frontage . • Minor layout changes may be made before the preliminary plat is submitted . A general indication of existing natural features : These are shown on the enclosed drawing . General Information : • Proposed water supply: The subdivision will be served by the Town water system. David Herrick , the Town Engineer, has developed a plan to boost the system pressure to attain required household water pressure. The location of the booster has not been determined . • Sewage Treatment: All lots will have individual septic systems. The Tompkins County Health Department has performed a field evaluation and soil tests and the site has been approved for on-site systems, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 • 9 10 Y Si • Any proposed protective covenants or deed restrictions on the lots: There will be protective covenants on lots 1 through 14 , including but not limited to the types of covenants common to other subdivisions in Lansing . • Environmental Assessments: A long environmental assessment form is enclosed . Other issues: Phasing: The project may be constructed in phases. We will bring a color coded plan to the Planning Board meeting to illustrate the proposed phasing . • Phase 1 : lots 1 , 2 ,4 , 12 , 13 , 14 and 17. Pheasant Way will be extended to the intersection of the future road coming from the east, to form a temporary "hammerhead" turnaround . Lots 4 and 12 will have frontage on the "hammerhead" . The new west road will not be built in this phase — instead , lot 17 will have limited road frontage on Pheasant Way . • Phase 2 : extend Pheasant Way to end at the "hammerhead': lots 8 ,9, 10, and 11 , and retention area. • Phase 3: new road to east connection with Whispering Pines: lots 3,5 ,6,7. • Phase 4: new road to hammerhead on south : lots 15, 16 and retention area. Stormwater: A compliant stormwater pollution prevention plan will be • prepared . The retention areas will become Town property, along with the roads. The location of the retention areas may change as more specifics about drainage conveyances are determined by the Town Engineer. Thank you for your consideration of this sketch plan . Sincerely, Jai i 4) , Robert R. and Vicki D. Bland Enclosures • Long Environmental Assessment Form • Sketch plan drawing 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 • 9 10 4 • 1 2 3 Bellisario & Phillips, Site Plan- Self Storage Unit, North Triphammer 4 Road, Parcell #44- 1 -2 5 Mr. Gary Wood appeared before the Planning Board on behalf of Mr. Bellisario and Mr. 6 Phillips requesting that they be permitted to erect Mini Storage Units on a 3 acre parcel of 7 land located on North Triphammer Road. On October 6, 2003 Mr. Phillips presented a 8 Preliminary Site Plan to the Planning Board for consideration. Section 503 , Schedule I 9 (32) Mini commercial warehouse requires Site Plan Review. The Construction would 10 consist of seven self-storage building with a total of 18 , 250 Sq. Ft. The Planning Board 11 discussed the timing of the proposal . Some members felt that the new Ordinance must be 12 followed once the Town Board approved the new Ordinance. Mr. Platt was asked to 13 contact Guy Krogh for legal advice. 14 15 Bailey Homes , Public Hearing — Final Plat, Goodman Road, Parcel # 16 P/O 20 .4 -8 .2 17 Nancy Loncto read the article published in The Ithaca Journal regarding the Public 18 Hearing. David Hatfield made a motion to open the Public Hearing at 8 : 15 PM . Lin 19 Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED • 20 UNANIMOUSLY. 21 Approval of October 27, 2003 Minutes 22 Lin Davidson made a motion to accept the minutes as presented. Viola Miller seconded. 23 VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 24 Waldman/Lustick, 1 Lot Subdivision — 11 Estates Drive, Parcel # 44.- 1 - 25 40 . 28 26 At the working meeting of October 27, 2003 it was determined that this approval should 27 be reviewed. (see minutes) 28 Waldman, 1 Lot Subdivision - Estates Drive Parcel # 44.-1 -40.28 29 At the Planning Board meeting of October 06, 2003 Mr. Waldman appeared before the board requesting he 30 be granted a 1 Lot Subdivision and a boundary change. The Board approved the 1 Lot Subdivision pending 31 the final Survey and waived the Public Hearing. Board Member Viola Miller was absent from that meeting, 32 and has now brought to the Board ' s attention that a change was made to a Major Subdivision which 33 requires a Public Hearing. Ms . Miller explained that this particular Parcel has been before the board on July 34 08 , 1991 and approved as a boundary change . (See copy of Minutes from 1991 ) 35 36 Fred Rogers-Tax Map # 44-1 -40.21 request to consolidate 2 lots (28 & 21 ) in the Horizons 37 Subdivision. Lot #21 was not approved for septic by the Health Department. Mr. Rogers would like 38 to incorporate it into one Deed. It was presented by George Pfann, Jr. Linda Hirvonen moved to 39 accept the boundary change as presented by Mr. Pfann on behalf of Fred Rogers. Seconded by Viola 40 Miller Mullane. Carried. 41 • 42 • 1 Another boundary change can not be done as this was consolidated to one lot. The owner at that time 2 choose to place his home essentially in the center of the lot (2 combined) . The purpose of having this filed 3 with the County regardless of how many times it changes hands, is so that it stays according to the original 4 Subdivision. Approving what Mr. Waldman is requesting will create a smaller lot within the Subdivision. 5 This will affect the property assessment of others within the Subdivision. 6 7 Lin Davidson made a motion that the Planning Board review the incomplete Subdivision of the Waldman 8 parcel in light of the fact that it is a change in a Major Subdivision. The proper protocol must be utilized. 9 Viola Miller seconded. Vote : Nancy Loncto- Aye, Lin Davidson-Aye, Greg Travis-Aye, Viola Miller- 10 Aye, Thomas Ellis- Opposed, David Hatfield-Opposed, Brian Ivery- Opposed. MOTION CARRIED . 11 12 *Mr. Platt read to the Board Members , Guy Krogh ' s response regarding further 13 proceedings on this matter. Mr. Krogh states once the approval has been given and the 14 Planning board follows proper procedures it is too late for any reviewing/Public Hearing. 15 16 Re-appointment of Planning Board Member, Larry Sharpsteen 17 Lin Davidson made a motion for the re- appointment of Larry Sharpsteen to the Planning 18 Board for an additional 7 years (January 01 , 2004 — December 31 , 2010) . David Hatfield 19 seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Rachel 20 Jacobsen will submit a letter of recommendation to Supervisor Farkas for Town Board 21 approval . 22 Bailey-Public Hearing Closed • 23 Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to close the Public Hearing at 9 : 10 PM as there was no 24 public present. Lin Davidson seconded . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION 25 CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 26 Bradley Griffin — Planning Board Material 27 Mr. Griffin came across more Planning Board paperwork that he would like to pass on to 28 Thomas Ellis . They are : a copy of the Original Development Policy, Rod Kearl ' s project, 29 advice from Jim Coon, also a file of correspondence that Mr. Griffin had obtained from 30 various people regarding Law and Policy. Mr. Griffin encouraged all members to take 31 advantage of this material . 32 Bailey —Major Subdivision, Goodman Road — Parcel # P/O 20.- 1 -8.2 33 Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to accept the Subdivision on Goodman Road . Lin 34 Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED 35 UNANIMOUSLY . 36 37 Larry Sharpsteen, Update on SEAR 38 Larry Sharpsteen advised the Board Members that the County is working on changing 39 their limits for Schedule 1 on SEQR. Larry' s review of it didn ' t appear to affect anything 40 having to do with the individual municipalities, it had to do solely with actions which • 41 were under the direct purview of the County Board. • Beatrice Fulmer, Informal Discussion- 1 Lot Subdivision — Drake Road, 2 Parcel # 37. 1 -7-3 . 11 3 Ms . Fulmer is in Florida, and her son Stefan Brownell did not appear. Mrs . Fulmer 4 would like to purchase a 2 acre parcel from her son. 5 Mr. Platt presented to the Board Members a location map showing the only access to the 6 remaining parcel would be next to the Dry Cleaners, there is an existing house on that 7 parcel . The survey indicates a deeded right-of-way to the existing house. The parcel to 8 be subdivided is the only current owned access to a public road. A stream and small 9 gorge divides the property. Access to the existing parcel from Drake Road would require 10 building a bridge, which would not be economically feasible . The Planning Board agreed 11 to approve the subdivision with the knowledge that the existing house can be accessed 12 through the deeded right-of-way. 13 NYC Planning Federation Conference - Sunday, February 15, 2004 thru 14 Wednesday, February 18, 2004. 15 Mr. Shattuck advised the Board Members that they have from now, November 10th until 16 December to make their decision whether they plan to attend February Conference in 17 NYC . The deadline date will be set at the next meeting scheduled for November 24, 18 2003 . 19 Lin Davidson made a motion to adjourn. David Hatfield seconded. VOTE : ALL IN 20 FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. • 21 • • Town of Lansing Planning Board Meeting November 10, 2003 Visitors Please Sign In Below : (Please Print) Name Address (7' '- ,-5 ?, f it,____) L. A 1,24 o 3 6 r 1 ,/ ? Pr57 A ( Pi ) Dr? C ----i,. j_ IA ( r1 /6 ee) n .1 ��� l' slet- --Aix) / tar r e�k_ / 1 / i OF(51. 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Parcel # P/0 20:1 -8.2 8:30 PM Bellisario & Phillips, Site Plan - Self Storage Unit North Triphammer Road, Parcel # 441 -2 8:45 PM Approval of October 27, 2003 Minutes 9:00 PM Recommendation for the re-appointment of Larry Sharpsteen to the Planning Board for an additional term of 7 years. 0 (January 01 , 2004 - December 31 , 2010)