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Home My WebLink About2002-02-25 Town of Lansing Planning Board, Februarv23, 2002 1 Town of Lansing 3 Monday, February 25 , 2002 7 : 00 PM PLANNING BOARD 4 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS 5 (•Denotes present) 6 * Gregg Travis, Chair * Brad Griffin 7 Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson 8 * Viola Miller * David Hatfield 9 * Nancy Loncto 10 11 * Bud Shattuck, Town Councilman 12 * Richard Platt, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer 13 14 Public Present 15 Craig Trowbridge 16 Tom Niederkom 17 18 GENERAL BUSINESS-- Gregg Travis opened the meeting at 7 : 09 PM 21 Tom Niederkorn - Local Waterfront Protection Plan 22 Mr. Niederkorn has been working on this project for approx. 3 years now. The plan has reached the point where 23 it' s finished and now distributed to the local municipalities (7 including the County) . We are going to start our 24 Circuit Rider Program, which means going to each one of these municipalities . I came out to the Town Board last 25 week and left sample copies. It is my understanding that there will be a joint meeting of the Town & Planning 26 Board. What we will do is taking this plan after people have had a chance to review it and then we will find out if 27 any questions or changes are needed. Each municipality has to adopt this plan in order for it to kick into effect. If 28 adopted by all, than that gives you extra points in terms of funding. I tthink it' s worth wild adopting the plan. The 29 plan contains 20 different proposal, some are broad and varied, other specific. Your job will be to review these 30 proposals . I' ve done an environmental impact assessment already for you. What you will need to do is review 31 the work I' ve done, coral with it to the extent that you think is appropriate and we 'll make any changes that you 32 feel is necessary. Before that can happen, you need to be designated as the "lead agency". That means after all 33 the municipalities have adopted this plan, a letter of lead agency designation has to be sent around to the 34 municipalities. The letter will indicate that you have declared yourself to be the lead agency. If someone wishes 35 to argue with that, they have 30 days to do so. Let the County know. ; The County will provide the letter of lead 36 agency designation for you. You will than review the documents (forms, assessments etc . . . ) the normal SEQR 37 procedure then happens. You have to decide whether you want to have a public hearing on this. You don ' t need 38 to have a public hearing as a lead agency, however, at the Town level there will be one. Any major modifications 39 the County will do that for you. Now the problem with this is that a lot of the proposals relate to things that you 40 don ' t know where they will be located. It ' s hard to do an impact statement for a project like this. In March we 41 will present in more details, what the concerns are and what the plan says . We will then go around the circuit and • get everyone to approve it, and then get the Town Board asking for their approval and for a public hearing. 43 Viola Miller: What kind of time schedule is all of this? 1 -, Town of Lansing Planning Board, Februarv23, 2002 1Tom Niederkorn: Probably talking the end of summer. Then it has to be sent to the State of New York. There is • a consistency provision in this law that say once these plans are adopted anyone who wants to do a proposal along the lake has to be consistent with this plan. They can make their own , modifications to this plan and we don 't get 4 another chance . Once the municipalities (Town of Ulysses, Town of Ithaca, Town of Lansing, Village of Cayuga 5 Height, Village of Lansing, City of Ithaca, inaddition to the County) . The County does not have to adopt and 6 that ' s why the County could not be the lead agency. We want the County to adopt it as we need that support. 7 Brad Griffin: When does that down copy get mailed? 8 Tom Niederkorn: Next week 9 Brad Griffin: You've mentioned the inlet edging, that' s gone on for years . Is this a component of the plan? 10 Tom Niederkorn: Yes, it ' s one of the projects that was evaluated in this project. An interesting one in here that 11 would affect Lansing is the future use of the railroad right of way from Stewart Park to Milliken Station. Another 12 one that is interesting that involves the county (which they probably won' t do) is begun to acquire open space 13 when a good opportunity comes along. ( 14 Viola Miller: What about the use of Portland Point? 15 Tom Niederkorn: Yes, Portland Point is in here . We are thankful and delighted that you are going to be the lead 16 agency. We ' ll do all the work for you except for the thinking. There ' s an interesting proposal in here for 17 controlling/modify boat speed and boat noise. I'm not sure how that will sell in the communities. It' s really hard 18 to measure when your going from one county to the next and who is going to enforce . 19 Gregg Travis : Is there State funding available for projects? 20 Tom Niederkorn: I think there is money available . 21 Gregg Travis : Are there other such plans up along the lake by other municipalities? 0 Tom Niederkorn: No not on Cayuga Lake . There are some on the Great Lakes, Sodus and maybe a couple others up there. There is a lot down state . 24 Nancy Loncto: So we would be the first Finger Lake? 25 Tom Niederkorn: I' m not sure but there may be one on Seneca Lake or one of the other Finger Lakes. 26 27 Discuss Purchase of Lent Property by Tompkins County Airport or Developer. Parcel # 44. 1 -22 28 29 Richard Platt: Mr. Platt stated that he spoke with the Engineer that is representing the Airport and apparently Mrs. 30 Lent has a developer that would like to purchase the strip that is off Cherry Road at the end of the airport 31 property. The County would like to purchase it to protect it from development. Mrs. Lent has a developer that is 32 willing to pay about $20,000 .00 more than the County. 33 Viola Miller: This Board has always said we didn 't want any housing, there under any circumstances . 34 Brad Griffin: If we were concerned about the safety aspect of driveways along Triphammer, than we would 35 certainly be concerned about a piece of property that ' s got a recent impromptu landing from a Lear Jet right down 36 through the middle of it. 37 Bud Shattuck: On the other hand the developer is willing to pay for it and there ' s nothing illegal about it. The 38 purview of this Board is probably to say, where would your access points be? 39 Viola Miller: There ' s things in the minutes concerning, safety, how much can be built. We tried at one time to get 40 where there could not be development. Brad Griffin: We may not be able to control that, but to give any other kind of advice would bring a liability upon 4l us. 43 Nancy Loncto: On the FAA research don't they know what they're responsible for? 2 Town of Lansing Planning Board, February23, 2002 1 Richard Platt: I would assume so. • Viola Miller: The airport was asking for no move development in there. 3 Brad Griffin: They still can ' t take without compensation. You can't just do that by regulation. 4 Bud Shattuck: Taking it is all right even if it' s compensated lower than what a developer would pay. 5 Viola Miller: When the Lent' s built their new house there they were given a reduction in their taxes because of the 6 noise . 7 Bud Shattuck: Do we know if this is a residential developer? 8 Richard Platt: They didn' t say. I don ' t think they know who the developer is. 9 Viola Miller: I know for a fact they can' t put anything public there. The Law wouldn' t allow a public building 10 there. 11 Bud Shattuck: The countymade an offer last year to purchase it. 12 Richard Platt: Mrs. Lent told me she had a developer interested in it. I just wantedeverybody to be aware of it and 13 if anybody had any suggestions. I suggested to the Engineer to maybe contact John Young and make a deal with 14 him (60 ft for a road), then the county could have the rest. 15 16 Discussion of Lakeview Subdivision — Phase II, Plans to Proceed 17 18 Richard Platt: I received a call from Chuck Feiszli, Resource Engineer, regarding the Phase II plans . I'm unable 19 to locate the folder, I have found the map for phase I and they were approved, and they say preliminary approval iiphase II and III. I called the assessor and they have phase I. I do have a letter from Dave Herrick with recommendations from him and Pete . 22 Viola Miller: We did. Was it under a different name? 23 Lin Davidson: It did change ownership . Originally it was Digitech, than Barden. 24 Bud Shattuck: We saw maps to phase II because they included the connection of the road on top through that 25 guy ' s back yard. I don' t know if they ever were approved. They (Barden) presented to the board. 26 Lin Davidson: We should have minutes. (Aug. or Sept.2000) 27 Richard Platt: I' ll research the minutes. 28 29 Steve White Discussion 30 Richard Platt: Mr. White would like to subdivide this property that has an apartment and garage on it. Mr. White 31 doesn ' t have enough land to meet the acre. Mr. White has 66,381 .00 Sq. feet between the two parcels. He owns 32 parcel 13 & 14 . What he would like to do is split them. There is a house on the 14 end, put a line there and retain 33 13 with the garage . Basically he is going to join the lots together and than split them the best he can. He has a 34 separate septic and well for both of them. 35 Bud Shattuck: If he splits this than he ' s going to have less than a '/ z acre . 36 Gregg Travis : ZBA would be the best way to go . Mr. Platt would have to deny the request and direct him to the 37 ZBA. 38 Other Business Bud Shattuck: The Town is looking for two things to happen. One is to get this zoning completed so they can put together a town center with streets and sidewalks. 41 Brad Griffin: I 've inquired before about the land across the street. It still continues to be Construction debris. 3 Town of Lansinz Planning Board, Februarv23, 2002 1 Bud Shattuck: That now has been fenced off, signs put up so no more. refuse can be put in there. • Brad Griffin: Is there a plan that we 're unaware of for us to do something there? 3 Bud Shattuck: The last Highway Superintendent felt that was a good place to put extra stuff 4 Lin Davidson: There was thought at one time to put the Town Hall there. Rumors of a golf course too. 5 Bud Shattuck: They have fenced and posted that whole property against hunting. 6 Richard Platt: I haven 't seen a site plan review form, do we have one? 7 Viola Miller: No we do not have one. 8 Bud Shattuck: You can use the Coon series on the CD . Just amend them to the town. 9 10 Ordinance Changes 11 Nancy Loncto : We liked what the green copy said more than the yellow copy. 12 Lin Davidson: I think we can deal with this if we get it all in one place. Printing is not going to be a problem. 13 Bud Shattuck: The reason for the delineation; between the two colors is if we have a problem, we can refer to the 14 color page. 15 Viola Miller: When it goes to the Town Board you must show what changes have been made. 16 Lin Davidson: How would you like to proceed with this Nancy? I have found a person who does a lot of grant 17 applications, publications and she has a lot of time. This person can meet you before work and get all the 18 information she needs than do, the work at home . She will charge $ 13 .00 per hour. 0 Bud Shattuck: Do we have the yellow document with the changes that were done on disc? Lin Davidson: Yes, Laurie has that already. We should make sure what Robin gave me is current. 21 Nancy Loncto : Her first job would be to verify all the information. 22 Gregg Travis : How does the Town contract with Laurie? 23 Bud Shattuck: All this board needs to do is set a limit, financially and hourly. Remember if a person earns more 24 than $700 .00 than they need to file a 1099 statement with Sharon. 25 Viola Miller: Let ' s try her first before we decide on the limits. 26 Nancy Loncto : From my experience I would say at least 4 days, 32 hours. One week, (40 hrs.) to do all the edits. 27 Viola Miller: I have a suggestion, seeing Lin and Nancy both work at,. Cornell perhaps they can get together on 28 their lunch and check over her work. 29 Bud Shattuck: Our next meeting is scheduled for 3/ 11 /02 . It' s recommend that we meet with the Town Board 30 meeting on 3/20/02 @ 7 :00PM. The second interim meeting will be 3/25/02 . 31 Viola Miller: All I am saying is we need to review the interim document at home and then come back together. 32 Lin Davidson: Mailing out the edits as we go along is the best way to go. 33 Nancy Loncto : Our goal is to have all the edits in there by 3/ 11 /02 . 34 Lin Davidson: We will mail them to Richard Platt, and he will email the people who have computers and send or 35 delivery to the others. 36 Informal Discussion- Ed Dellert, Broker Associate for parcel #30.4-26. 1 304 Peruville Road. Mr. Platt spoke on behalf of Mr. Dellert, Broker Associate for Warren Real Estate. Mr. Dellert has a client that is It interested in purchasing a piece of property at 304 Peruville Rd. The client would like to occupy the main part of 4 • . . F Town of Lansing Planning Board, Februarv23, 2002 1 the house as their personal residence and use the rear 2 story apartment as housing for his business. Mr. Dellert 0 wanted to know what the feeling was of the Planning Board with regards to this use . Bud Shattuck: We would recommend to Mr. Dellert that we are re-doing our codes and this will fall under special 4 permit. Would you choice to put it under special permit now to get it through the process, or would you like me 5 to deny it based on the way the rules say no . 6 Lin Davidson: If we deny it, than it would go to ZBA. A recommendation would 'go along with it stating that it 7 meets the site plan review and items brought up in a professional office in an RQ district. 8 Bud Shattuck: They could apply for Special Use. 9 Lin Davidson: Motioned to adjourn meeting. Brad Griffin seconded. ',VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION 10 CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 • 21 11 22 23 IF P • 5 11 II 2... 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TOWN of LANSING 1txQ 1111 "Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " -9. * # ZONING , PLANNING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT T I14Box 186 ` 1 Lansing, NY 14882 Town of Lansing Planning Board Meeting 2/25 /02 7 : 00 PM Lansing Town Hall — Board Room AJ enda • Time: Agenda Topics 7:00 PM Tom Niederkom - Local Waterfront Protection Plan 7: 15 PM Discuss purchase of Lent property- by airport or developer? #44.-1 -22 7:30 PM Discussion of Lakeview Subdivision, Phase U, plans to proceed 7:45 Resume Review of Ordinance and Maps 0 • Page 1