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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000-08-28 '21 - A Town of Lansing 3 Monday , August 28 , 2000 ; 7 : 00 PM PLANNING BOARD 4 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS 3 [ UCIIV4G} a* sjW G * Brad Griffin , Chair Jacaba .T okor 7 * Larry Slnwpstenn * ida Davidson 2 * Viola Miller David Hatfield 9 * Gregg Travis 1 'l 1 1 * Bud STrattuck, Town Councilman 12 * George Tolman , Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer 13 .Public .Present 14 S Llsao Miller 194 Buck Rd 15 Bill Miller 154 Wilson Rd 16 Paul Gonstantini 1 Whispering Pines Drive 1. 7 Lyle Modell 46k Auburn R.d 18 Dick Baker 1191 Warren Rd 19 Judy Baker ' 1191 Warren arren Rd TI Doug Firth 26 Aspen Way Walter Poland 7 Tri phare rarer Terrace o 23 GENERAL BUSINESS 24 Brad Gri Ga opened meoiing at 7 :3dPrvt , 25 John Hicks Subdivision Request , Murt old Drive. Tay Mali P 42.- 14 _ 12 22 John Hicks explained the topo map . The Board discussed the map. Gregg Travis asked M.r. Hicks to change 27 the map to reflect the fact that it was a :Prelimiaary Plat, not a Sketch Plan as stated on the map . 2$ din Davidson entered at 7 : 12 P . 20 Gregg Travis stated that the Toren Board has to accept the concept of the road layout before the Planning 30 Board can give approval on the Preliminary plat. George Totman stated that they could approve it contingent 31 upon the Town Board ' s approval . 32 Viola Miller moved to accept the preli urinary plat, contingent upon Town Board approval of the concept of the 3t road layout, and to set the public hearing for Monday, September 11 1 , 2000 . Gregg Travis seconded . VOTE : 3a ALL I FAVOR. MUTTON CAIRRIM UNAT'Il ZOG LY_ 33 John Hicks thanked the Board_ 36 Discussion on 2001 Budget- Brad Griffin stated that he and the Treasurer have developed a potentia] budget 37 for ZOOM , Brad Griffin stated that it was the same budget as they had for 2000, .Brad passed out copies of the 35 budget and asked that the members review it for comments, corrections, or recommended changes , Privilege of the Floor 40 Ron Parks stated Gallia was at the last Meeting regarding the Barden G Robeson subdivision_ Mr, :Parks 4l stated that he was curious about three of the questions he had at that meeting . Mr. Parks stated that the 42 Planning Board was going to have the Town Engineer take a look at the swede and the road issue before that down of t.n,nnuy naming Board, A !twwi 28, , 2000 • was approved . Mr , Parks asked if thabhad been approved. Brad Griffin replied that it had not been approved 2 yet. Mu Parks stated that he was curious as to why they were building the road then , 3 Mr . Parks asked if it had been requested that the rubbish pile be removed yet. George Tatman replied that he 2 took a look et lot 10 and could trot find it. Mr. Parks submitted pictures of the construction debris . Mr . Parks . 5 explained where the debris was located- M:r, Parks stated that he was sorry if he had indicated the wrong spot 6 previously. George stated that he would take a look et it and take care of it. 7 Mr. Parks stated that be had asked that they build the swale before they did anything else- Mr. Parks stated 2 that he did not get en answer last time, but wee wondering if there was a reason that they could not require that be done given all the trouble he had with the water the last time. Mrebb Travis replied that they had discussed 10 die diet that the extension of that road may take care of the drainage problem and that they would have the i Town .Engineer take a look at that. 12 Mr. Parks stated that one of the issues was also the bat that the swale ELMS uphill . M:r. Parks stated that they 13 were going to have the Town Engineer take a Cook et it and verify that it does run uphill and have that corrected 12 so that it does not drain on his property. Mr. Parks stated that the other issue was the extension of the swale 15 before they stanch di ;going because last time it took 5 months to have it done. :Eon Parks asked the Planning 6 Board it they have the authority to ask them to do that first Brad Griffin stated that they did discuss the 17 drainage et the last meeting and they are awaiting comments of the Toree Engineer and from the Town 18 Highway Superintendent for the drainage on the road. 19 Ku Parks stated that he had made an agreement with the Planning Board about the sruole with the previous 20 subdivision- Brad Griffin explained that /qr. Parks made the agreement with the developer, not the Planning 21 Board . Mr. Parks stated that it was in the minutes so he thought it was with the Planning Board- Mr. Parks 22 stated that he would have to take a look at those minutes again . Mr. Parks stated that he did not understand 23 whether the Planning :Board has the authority to make that agreement, • 24 Susan Miller stated that she was asking to get some clarification . bks . Miller explained that there was a kennel 25 business, or dog grooming,ling, flea]- her hone, Ms . Miller Stated that she Came hr a feud weeks ago to see if that rh would he allowed and found that because it is listed under a kennel it would require a Special Use Perrnit and 27 would have to go before the Town Board . Ms . Miller stated that in the interim, the business has been given a 2 i temporwy permit to operate until the Town Board meeting. dos . Miller stated that was probably fine, but even .29 as of this mooning , there was not clarity about sewage disposal . 01 George Tatman explained that be told Ms. Miller this morning that the people that owned the property with the 21 kennels sold that property and they no longer plan to have e kennel , but plan to have a dog grooming business . 32 George Tatman explained that the property was supposed to be contiguous property with the remaining land 33 owned by this couple which c0uld have made it allowable as a home business. George stated that the property. 341 turned out not to be contiguous- George Tatman stated that he met with the 'Cowl Supervisor and the Town 35 Attorney to deterinine what they could do about it. George explained that the Town Attorney met with one of 32 the neighbors and with the owner and they explained to her Pet it would have to be e TOWN' Board decision . 37 She would have to fill oat the papers and come to the next Town Board meeting and take it flow there. George 32 Tatman stated that he left it in thetorrmAttorney-' s hands . 39 d ill Miller stated that he lives an Wilson hoed and his }veil is downstream from this property . Mr. Mille '- . Aliller it explained that if they are haurying pesticides between now and the Town Board ]meeting on September 20 , 21 there could be significant agricultural effects . Brad Griffin stated it has already been stated that it is a Town :k2 Board decision, and Mr. Miller should lodge his concerts there , 43 Ron Parks stated that it appears to him that they are questioning a ruling of the Zoning Officer prior to the other er yr meeting being called- Mr. Parks stated that he does not think the Zoning Officer should not have given that 45 permit- :Brad Griffin explained that this was a meeting of the Town of Lansing Planning Board and the Zoning eh Officer is an employee of the Town of Lansing Town Board. r �a 3 Iu ,rre edtaring Planning ttonrd, Ba yasn 28'- 2000 1Unique Natural Areas - Brad Griffin explained that they had planned to have a presentation of the UNA. Roger• IPepin stated that he had prepared a presentation about the UJNA , Mr. Hagin left copies for the Pleaniop Board- Brad Griffin stated that his understanding is that the intent behind it was to list of LNA ' s is for 4 information only. George Totman stated that one of the misconceptions that people had was that the people s doing the study told the committees that everyone that got selected was contacted and was asked if they could fi go on their property, George stated that the people from Lansing and Groton that have contacted him said they 7 were never contacted , 8 Work :Session, Review of the Band Urn Ordinance 9 Tom Biiederkorn explained the areae at the ordinance that he thought they should review. The Board discussed 14 haw they would go about reviewing the ordBwtee- 1 Larry dharpsteen moved to resurrect the draft ordinance of November '10, 1947 with the intent to provide that 12 as advice to the Town Board after the members collectively proofread U Lin Davidson seconded , VOTE : 13 ALL W FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY , 14 Paul Benstantini stated that he liked what he heard Weight. f1+lr- Oonstantini stetcd that in fairness to tlenelopers 45 and residents , the definition of the cones should be something that could be measured . Mr. Oonstantini stated that to Be only thing he was leery about was where something }would require Special Permits . ddr . Constantini stated that ] 7 when boards change, that mould chane, you would not have Isle of law, but rather rule of men- 1 Doug Penh stated he would like to echo Ptr. Oonstantini ` s statements in that he was very pleased with what he. had 19 heard tonight. Mr. Ferth stated that his recommendations would be to better numerically define density and to firm 20 up the ambiguity in Sec . $ 02 , Mr, Ferth stared that lie feels there nods 'to be consideration of exiting 21 neighborhoods . An Fer1h stated that lie thought in Be previous ordinance; the paragraph that mar read was much 22 more appropriate than in the draft ordinance or the current ordinance. Mr , head stated that the Town of Lansing should consider adopting a local law describing how it conducts 24 environmental review, whom is responsible; and hove actions get classified . Mr. drrlh stated that anything that 25 requires Special Conditions, should also require site plan review. Mr, Perth also stated that if there is a project that 24 requires site plan review, there should be a better process of informing the neighbors rather than just a legal notice 27 in the newspaper . Larry Sharpsteea replied that currently, there is a requirement for notification for public 28 hearings; and that seems to work pretty well , and ha would suggest. that the same process be followed for site plan 29 reviewed. 30 Walter Poland stated that both the Topa Board and the Planning Board will receive copies of the recommendations 31 that Doug Perth pointed out tonight. Mr. Poland stated that one other thing he would point out vvas that an 32 important arena that needs clarification or redefinition is the Zoning Board of Appeals , 33 Resolution on Private Roads 34 A resolution was offered by Larry Sharpsteen, seconded by Lin Davidson , to seek from the hewn Board a written 35 specification by away of right-of-vaay, width , and basic structu re 3cr minimum standard for private roads . Lin 36 Davidson seconded . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION BA.R.RILD UNANIMOUSLY . Bud Shattuck stated 37 dwt the hewn Engineer and the ldigh pry Superintendent err working together to come up with that definition . 3g .Resolution on One hat Subdivisions 39 A resolution was offered by Viola Miller, seconded by Lin Davidson, to the Torun Board stating Bat the Rlaruiinp 30 Board would like examine tin validity, the fairness and the utility of delegation of single lot subdivisions to the 4I Code Enforcement Officer or to any other person , RBAd : h.hh IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED 42 UNANIMOUSLY. Larry Shaipstcen moved to adjourn at b : dt PM Gregg Travis seconded . VOTE : ALL IN d, BOR- MOTION 34 CARRIED LTBABtMOUSLY . 45 The next meeting will be held on September 1 .1 : 2000- 46 ,Submitted by Robin Connell