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I ii I • : •• : t . • •<•. . •. . t - - ; • r � r 1 AO Town ofLasng 3 Monday, January 11 , 1999 ; 7 : 30 PM PLANNING BOARD 4 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS S ,Denotes present) 6 * Viola Miller, Chair * Jacoba Baker 7 * Larry Sharpsteen * Brad Griffin 8 Lb Davidson Al White 9 * David Lippert 10 11 • Paul Butler, Town Councilman 12 * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer 13 14 PUBLIC PRESENT is Robert Walpole 16 Matt Shulman 17 r� GENERAL BUSINESS 19 Viola Miller called the meeting to order at 7 : 32 PM . 20 Approval of Minutes of December 14, 1.998- Page 2, Line 22 . . . Brad Griffin asked if Scott Pinney had 21 said the water was 85 feet deep . David Lippert replied that he thought it had come out as an answer to a 22 question about what size boats could go in there . Page 2, Line 31 . . .Brad Griffin asked if the number of 23 employees during the summer months was correct. Larry Sharpsteen replied it was correct. Page 4, Line 24 3 . . .Brad Griffm asked what the waiver was . Larry Sharpsteen stated it was the topo and drainage study 25 stated on Line 1 . Page 4, Lines 26 & 29 . . . Brad Griffin corrected . . . alter the thermocline . . . Line 26 38 . . .Brad corrected . . . efficient way versus people interested in exclusively getting cars . . . Page 3 Line 27 42 . . . Viola Miller clarified . . . situation with surf:Yee water . . . Page 3, Line 27. . . Jackie Baker '. 28 corrected. . . building lot, so tractors . . .David Lippe'.t moved to accept the minutes as amended. Lin 29 Davidson seconded . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. it; 30 31 NEW BUSINESS 32 Privilege of the Floor- There was no one present from the public who wished to speak. 33 Report from Officers and Committees- 34 Treasurer- Jackie Baker stated she did not have a report yet. 3 . Secretary- Brad Griffin stated that he had no report as Secretary. 36 EMC- Larry Sharpsteen stated that there has not been an EMC meeting yet, it will be this week. Larry 37 stated that the discussion between the members of the committee has been focussing on whether or not 38 the D.E. C. scrutiny has been as close as it should be on various projects around the lake being promoted 2 Town of Lansing Planning Board, January 11 . 1999 by the canal authority with this bond act . Larry added that the discussion he has been privy to has been 2 the Pinney project, which hopefully he can respond to at the upcoming meeting with some real 3 information . Larry stated that if they have some real concerns he would suggest that Jim Hansen come in • 4 and explain the project. 5 Sewer- Larry Sharpsteen stated that he has heard absolutely nothing. Paul Butler stated that they have 6 tried to get some movement from Watchtower, but he has not heard any reports . Larry Sharpsteen asked 7 Paul Butler if he knew the deadline for signing the agreement with the intermunicipal agency to get the 8 funds from the state. Paul responded that the did not. Matt Shulman asked if there was a firm date set . 9 Larry Sharpsteen stated that he was under the impression that there was a date . Dave Lippert added that 10 he thought he read a comment made in the paper that if the commitment was not made soon, the money 11 would revert back and they would have to go through the application process again . Larry Sharpsteen 12 stated that he has fought that fight for quite awhile, along with the other people on that board, and they 13 finally had something actionable . Larry stated there are still some people in town that think it could be 14 funded privately. Paul Butler stated that if it is not a cooperative effort, they would receive no federal or 15 state assistance. Larry Sharpsteen stated there is another possibility, there are design firms that would 16 build it as a turnkey project, then sell it or lease to buy to the town . Larry stressed for the minutes that it 17 is not the Town of Lansing that is not cooperating. Matt Shulman asked if there were any particular 18 issues that would be sticking points they could discuss . Larry Sharpsteen stated that from what the got 19 from the newspaper is that is a struggle for control of the funds . Paul agreed that it was a struggle over 20 which entity would be in charge. 21 Privilege of the Floor- Larry Sharpsteen stated he was sorry, but he did have something to discuss for 22 the Privilege of the Floor. Larry Sharpsteen asked Paul Butler if any selections have been made for the 23 new member of the Planning Board. Paul responded that there has not been to his knowledge . Viola 24 Miller asked George Totman if he could tell them whose terms are going to be expiring. George replied 25 that he did not know offhand . Larry Sharpsteen called Paul Butler ' s attention to someone who served 26 on one of the subcommittees on the Comprehensive Plan, is involved in a business in the area, and is 27 very involved in the community. Larry Sharpsteen stated Arlene Dende would probably be more than 28 happy to take up the gauntlet. 29 Viola Miller stated she has another name for consideration . Viola stated she has not been involved in 30 the town, although he husband certainly had been, and she has fought for the town for many years . Viola 31 added that she lives in the village and her name is Jeannette Miller. Viola stated that she feels Jeannette 32 is very capable . • 33 Brad Griffin stated that in the past, when they have had public meetings , some of the most thoughtful , 34 written comments have come from Susan Birakk. Viola Miller and Larry Sharpsteen agreed. . '.0- 35 Report from Officers and Committees (Ccitt.)- 36 Transportation- Brad Griffin stated that there were 2 proposals from the consultant on the study. The 37 first proposal was to increase ridership of the mass transit (TCAT buses) . The second proposal was the 38 North-South connectors to remove traffic from roads that may not be as capable as one might hope to 39 bear heavy volumes of traffic . Brad stated that this would go from Rt . 34 to Triphammer following 40 contours . Brad explained that it would be a two lane road with no curb cuts. Viola Miller asked what 41 this would accomplish . Brad stated the purpose of the consultant in doing this is to respond to a variety 42 of concepts of North-South connectors . Brad stated that supposedly, it would take traffic off of 43 Triphammer and East Lake Road going into Ithaca. 44 • 45 46 3 Town of Lansing Planning Board, January 11 , 1999 Public Hearing, Kirby Subdivision - Goodman Road , Tax Map #20.- 1 -8.2 WViola Miller read the legal notice . Viola Miller opened the public hearing. George Totman explained that the notice was sent to all the adjoining property owners. There were 8 sent out and none of the 4 property owners came to the hearing. 5 Larry Sharpsteen stated that the reason for waiving the requirement of the drainage study is because the 6 property is almost dead flat, any slope there is does drain to a natural stream in the back. Larry stated 7 that he would see no reason for any drainage problems . 8 Robert Walpole stated that he had no statement to make, all statements were made last month . Larry 9 Sharpsteen asked if any comments the Board had about the borders, if any, have been taken care of. 10 George Totman stated the maps are exactly as they were presented previously. 11 Viola Miller stated they would normally delay the vote until later, but as there was no one here from the 12 public, she asked if the board would like to vote now. Larry Sharpsteen stated that they should wait for 13 15 minutes to allow for time in case someone is late . The board agreed to wait until 8 : 15PM to vote . 14 Report from Officers and Committees (Cont.) - 15 Trails- Jackie Baker stated that she has not done anything yet. Jackie stated she would like some advice 16 on whether they should have someone come talk to them from the towns that have the trails or get 17 . someone from the old committee to come in and tell why it failed in the past. Viola Miller stated that 18 she thinks there is someone on the County Planning staff who is working directly on that sort of thing. 19 George Totman stated that it would be better to do that than having someone local to excite their interest 20 only to have it dropped. George stated that there is someone on the County Planning staff working on it 21 and that way no one would have their feelings hurt if you did not take their advice. Larry Sharpsteen IPagreed and stated that they should also have someone from the Town of Dryden or Ithaca come in, too. Jackie Baker asked Larry Sharpsteen who he had suggested they contact regarding the trails. Larry 24 responded that it was the Fingerlakes Trail . Jackie asked if he knew where their headquarters are 25 located. Brad Griffin stated that he would have to look that up. Jackie Baker and David Lippert will 26 talk more on this later. Brad Griffin stated that the Town Supervisor of Dryden, Jim Schug, has taken a 27 big interest in it and a call to him would probably be beneficial . Jackie stated they would call to see if 28 they could get Jim to come in for the February meeting. She will let George Totman know if she is able 29 to set it up. 30 Kirby Subdivision - Goodman Road, Tax Map #20.- 1-8.2- At 8 : 15 PM, as no one from the public 31 arrived for the Public Hearing, Brad Griffin moved to accept the subdivision as presented . Jackie Baker 32 seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 33 Report from Officers and Committees (Cont. )- 34 Transportation- Viola Miller stated that once you get away from Ithaca, get into a place where there is a 35 lot of traffic, and see how the traffic is handled, you can realize that we do not really have that many 36 problems here. Viola stated that she thinks there are ways the problems could be handled to the 37 advantage of everyone without a tremendous offense to the taxpayers . Viola Miller stated that having 38 staggered work hours would help to move traffic more smoothly. Viola stated that with the constant 39 increase in population, there is a constant increase in the number of cars and you simply will not be able 40 to take most of those cars off the road . Viola stated that public transportation, like TCAT, can not run 41 without subsidies . Brad Griffin stated that the only way he knows that it works is Cornell making it appealing for people from North Lansing to ride the bus so that they do not have to pay the parking fees on campus . Larry Sharpsteen stated that line is full, partly because of Cornell encouraging people to 44 take the bus, but also about 60% of the people that take that bus come from Cayuga County. David 45 Lippert stated that he sees a bus stop at the high school every morning about 7 : 15 or 730 AM and there 4 Town of Lansing Planning Board, January 11, 1999 1 is only one person that walks up from Ludlowville to catch the bus . David stated that either people are 2 going to have to drop people off to catch the bus because there is no place to park or that is an awfully 3 expensive stop for one person . • 4 Report of the Nominating Committee — Larry Sharpsteen stated the committee would like to place for 5 in nomination the following: Chairperson - Brad Griffin 6 Vice Chairperson — Lin Davidson 7 Treasurer — Jackie Baker 8 Secretary — David Lippert • 9 Larry stated that they will hold for their nomination of Lin Davidson as Vice Chair until he is present. 10 Viola Miller stated that she has enjoyed the year as Chairperson. Jackie Baker stated that Viola 11 contributed a lot . Brad Griffin, Secretary, cast one ballet for the slate of officers recommended by the 12 nominating committee. It was unanimously approved . 13 OTHER BUSINESS 14 Discussion on Concerns for the Upcoming Year- Viola Miller stated , in the future, she would like to 15 see the subdivisions read over more carefully and tie them in with what they have to do with SEQR. 16 Viola stated that she thinks it could be coordinated if they worked on it, so they could ask legitimately 17 what is going to be put there . 18 Viola also stated that in doing the transportation., they should have some sort of easel that is large enough 19 to hold big maps so that they can see what they are working on. Larry Sharpsteen reminded everyone 20 that they have a 1 : 600 map of the town that is 2/3 completed, that they have already paid for the portion 21 that is completed. Larry stated that Toni has it. Larry stated that until the work was stopped 2 years ago, 22 it also had had property lines on it.. 23 Viola Miller stated that it would be a good idea to figure out what they would really like to work on this 24 year. Viola stated that one thing they had talked about was getting a survey of businesses . Larry 25 Sharpsteen stated that they also need to review the Comprehensive Plan . Viola stated that she was 26 reading it and there is so much that does not agree with the zoning ordinance. 27 Viola Miller reported that she does go to the Federation meetings and will continue to do that, but she is 28 a little reluctant because she does not feel they arc getting out of it what they ought to be getting. Viola 29 stated she has reported this to the planning staff. Viola stated she asked Lin to be an alternate for her 30 when she could not attend the meetings and he agreed . Viola stated she gave his name to the Federation 31 as an alternate . 32 Viola Miller stated that she wondered if, in the ftiire, when they are doing subdivisions as large as some `'' 33 they have done, if they should require sidewalks. 'Viola stated in the Subdivision Rules and Regulations ' 34 it says that they can require it. 35 George Totman gave the Board a copy of an article that Lin Davidson had at the last meeting. Larry 36 Sharpsteen summarized the article by saying indoor composting is working to control odor which 37 definitely benefits the surrounding property owners . Viola Miller stated that they would let Lin explain 38 his thoughts on it at the next meeting. 39 David Lippert stated that at the last meeting, Viola asked him to review the Cablevision survey. He 40 reviewed it and felt it would not be appropriate to respond. Brad Griffin stated the only advantage is 41 simply a listing of times they hold meeting. George Totman stated that what they want is to come out 42 and broadcast the whole meeting. The Board agreed that they do not want that. • 43 Larry Sharpsteen thanked Viola Miller for the past year and stated he personally appreciated it. Viola 44 Miller responded that she personally enjoyed it. Brad Griffin stated he thinks Larry speaks for everyone . 45 Brad added that her long tenure on the board is much appreciated. 5 Town of Lansing Planning Board, January 11, 1999 I Larry Sharpsteen moved to adjourn at 8 :45 PM. Brad Griffin seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR; 2 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. The next meeting is scheduled for February 8 , 1999. 4 Submitted by Robin Cornell . • •