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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1999-04-12 . . ,i. I 2 TownoLansing of Monday, April 12 , 1999 ; 7 : 30 PM PLANNING BOARD D 4 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS 5 (* Ir4wosareseast) 5 * Brad Orithn, Chair " ,Tacoba Baker 7 * Lauy Sharps teen * Lin Davidson * Viola lvfiller * David Lippert 9 $ Creep Travis LU I 1 * Paul Butler, Town Councilman 12 * George Taiwan, Zoning and Code hefnrceinent Officer 13 14 PUBLIC PRESENT • 15 Matthew Shulman 204 Wilson Rd 1G Patricia McElwee 14$ I E. Shore Drive 17 Maureen Monaco 37 Cherry Rd LS John Young 410 Triphammer Rd 19 -• GENERAL BUSINESS 21 Brad Griffin called Re meeting to order at 7 : 30 PIM Brad Griffin welcomed new Planning Board 22 member, Gregg `Travis . t4 Approval of Minutes of March 4 , 1999- Page 2, dine 38 . . , Lim Davidson corrected , . , start the route 44 surveys . , tin Davidson moved to accept the minutes tis corrected, Jackie Baker seconded . VOTE : ALL 25 1114 FAVOR, MOTION CARRIED . 26 Larry Sharpsteen entered at 7 : 34 'PIM 57 NEW BUSEVESS N Chairman ' s Report- Brad Griffin stated that when someone succeeds to this position , they usually 29 discuss changes that will be made. Brad stated that, more importantly, he would like to focus on things 3d that will slay the same . Brad stated that he would like to thank Viola Millet for her time as Chairperson Si during the past year. Brad also thanked Larry 5harpsteen for the successive terms he served previously 32 which was during the time the ordinance was drafted . 33 Brad Griffin stated that some of the simple things he would like to maintain would be starting on time, 34 having an agenda and sticking to the agenda . Brad added that if anyone had anything to put on the 35 agenda , he would invite theirs to do so by the Wednesday before the meeting . Brad stated that this board 36 has always provided a forum for a full discussion of topics, which sometimes is done with great passion , 37 but always with civility and he would trust that it would continue, ABoimnittee Appointments - Brad Griffin stated that there are two standing committees . The first is 39 Professional Planning Relations and lie would ask Viola Miller to continue to fulfill that function , for 2 , Town of Lansing Planning Board, April 12, 1999 Public Relations , Brad asked David Lippert if he would do that along with being Secretary. Brad Griffin 2 asked Jackie Baker if she would continue on her special committee on trails. 3 Brad Griffin stated that they have mentioned before the importance of their record , legally and ethically. 4 Brad added that he has invited Robin to interrupt during deliberations if there is something she does not 5 hear or that was not clear. • 6 Brad Griffin stated he also would like the board members to think about setting goals collectively for the 7 coming year.. Brad stated that for example, Viola had encouraged them to work on paper roads and 8 Larry had raised the issue of importance of having a good map from which to work. Brad stated that 9 they could jot down their ideas and they could discuss them at a subsequent meeting. ► 0 Brad Griffin stated that he signed an affidavit against Martin Ottenschott . Brad stated that the papers ► i were served on Mr. Ottenschott on Friday. Brad stated that the whole focus was to get some type of 12 summary injunction to see how they can force a clean up of that junkyard in the heart of the business 13 district of South Lansing. 14 Brad Griffin stated that he received an invitation from the Citizens Planning Alliance. Brad stated that 15 he attended a meeting. Brad said that the Citizens Planning Alliance had invited the speakers to give 16 some thrust to their sense that urban sprawl is being regarded as a negative thing. Brad stated that they 17 seemed to be particularly concerned with any sprawl that might spill up the east side of Cayuga Lake . 18 Larry Sharpsteen stated he has had the pleasure of attending a presentation of the Citizen ' s Planning 19 Alliance with the EMC . Larry added that Brad Griffin was not alone in thinking that they are solely 20 concerned about development on the east side of Cayuga Lake . Larry added that their presentation on 21 planning was not so much on planning, but more on obstruction or stopping development. Lin Davidson 22 stated that he went to the Planning Federation meeting for the county in Viola ' s stead while she was out 23 of toWn . Lin stated that " Smart Growth " was the order of the day. Lin added that they will have more 24 speakers that will talk to them about it in die future . 25 Viola Miller stated that when she was in the lowlands of the Carolinas , there was development like they • m P 26 have never seen up here . Viola added that what interested her was that there was a lot of fort put into 27 keeping clear land and trying to maintain some of it. Viola said that land trust was extremely important 28 down there. Viola stated that as development is overtaking that part of die coast , they are attempting to 29 keep some open land within the development. 30 Viola Miller stated that she has been representing this board on the County Planning Federation for a 3 long time . Viola stated that they insist on having someone from the Planning Board be the 32 representative, and they have worked for some time on getting an alternate approved and it has been 33 done . Viola stated that it needs to be approved by the municipal board . Viola suggested that they might 34 want to recommend to the Town Board that Lin Davidson be appointed to that . Brad Griffin asked if 35 that was agreeable to Lin . Lin Davidson agreed . 36 Brad Griffin stated that he went to the last Town Board meeting. Brad stated the nomination of Gregg 37 Travis was accepted by the Town Board and he was subsequently appointed as the new member. Brad 38 Griffin stated that they recommended the Minutes of February 8 , 1999, regarding trails for special 39 reading as that may lay a more positive spin on where things may go for the concept of the trails . 40 Resolution in support of the Portland Point Project 41 Brad Griffin stated that the Town Board had offered a resolution in support of the Pinney ' s marina 42 project at Portland Point . George Totman stated that the Town Board felt it would be nice if the 43 Planning Board were to pass a similar resolution to show that the Town is behind the project . The Board 44 discussed the Town Board ' s resolution . • 45 The following resolution was offered by Larry Sharpsteen and seconded by Lin Davidson : I 3 Town of Lansing Planning Board, April 12 , 1999 The Planning Board concurs with the Town Board resolution dated August 18 , 1998 , and 2 furthermore notes that the development as presented to the Planning Board by Scott Pinney would be 3 consistent with the Town of Lansing Comprehensive Plan . ®, VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. RESOLUTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY . 5 6 Public Hearing — John Young Subdivision , Cherry Road (Tax Parcel II 44 .- 1 -35 ) 7 Brad Griffin opened the public hearing at 7 : 59 PM. Brad Griffin read the legal notice. Brad Griffin 8 asked if the adjoining property owners had been notified . George Totman stated that they had been 9 notified by both the Town and by Mr. Young. Mr. Reynolds clarified that the setbacks in the covenants 10 would be 75 feet from the center of the road and 25 feet from the side lot lines. 11 The board discussed the letter received from Mr- Valentine . Larry Sharpsteen stated that the lot size is 12 not that much different from others in the area and the Planning Board does riot have the authority to 13 dictate any more than the subdivision regulations require . Larry suggested that if the people in the 14 neighborhood have questions or comments for the developer, they should feel free to contact the 15 developer as well . Mr. Young responded to Mr . Valentine ' s letter stating that many lots in the Horizon 16 subdivision are quite a bit smaller than 1 . 25 acres, many arc closer to . 5 acre. Mr. Young responded that 17 Mr. Valentine ' s suggestion of selling 2 larger lots for 50 % more does not actually work when it is put 18 into practice . 19 Maureen Monaco asked how many trees will be left after 3 houses and 3 septic fields are put in? John 20 Young responded that most people may clear about a quarter of the lot , but it is very unlikely that they 21 would want to clear the whole lot. Mr. Young stated that if someone wanted a field , they could probably 22 buy one less expensively with a big view. Viola Miller added that in the subdivision regulations it states 23 that you are not supposed to strip the land of trees . Ms . Monaco stated that her hope would be that Mr. to Young would change his mind to 2 lots . Mr. Young stated that given the lots in Horizons or in Autumn 25 Ridge, he does not think 1 acre is a small lot. 26 The board discussed the drainage issue for the property. Mr. Young used a map to show the direction of 27 water flow. Larry Sharpsteen asked if there is a requirement for minimum house size or for whether the 28 driveways are to be paved or crushed stone . Mr . Young replied that the minimum house size is 1500 sq . 29 It , but that he had not made a requirement for the driveway to be paved . Brad Griffin stated that the lot 30 sizes meet the requirements for a subdivision and the zoning requirements so the one question would be 31 how the drainage would be handled on that site . The board then asked Mr. Young to supply a drainage 32 plan for the meeting on May 10 , 1999 . Mit. Young asked what goes into a drainage study. Brad Griffin 33 replied they would need something that would show a reasonable person what would become of 34 developed drainage on this property in terms of amount and direction or ditching . 35 Lin Davidson moved to close the public hearing at 8 : 37 PM . Larry Sharpsteen seconded . VOTE : ALL 36 iN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY . 37 Lin Davidson moved to accept the subdivision , subject to submission of the drainage plan . David 38 Lippert seconded . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY . 39 Privilege of the Floor- No one from the public was present . 40 Report from Officers and Committees- 41 E . M. C . - Larry Sharpsteen presented the members with a copy of the 1998 Annual Report of the 42 Environment Management Council , along with the April copy of the newsletter. Larry Sharpsteen stated 44111 that the committee has submitted their requests for changes in procedures of the E . M . C . Larry stated 4 Town of Lansi,7z Plwmir72 Board, April 12, 1999 1 that the E . M. C. is an advisory committee for the county, but recently, the County Board has been either 2 ignoring the comments of the E. M . C . or just deciding they want to look at it themselves . 3 Larry ,Sharpsteen stated that one of the major items under consideration by the E . M . C. is communication 1 towers . Larry added that he thinks the Town of Lansing should be looking at them as a profit center item • 5 because they can bring a substantial income to the property owner Larry stated that another thing under 6 consideration is the development at Portland Point . 7 Planning Federation- Viola Miller stated that she thinks they are trying to set up some interesting things 8 that might be worth going forward with . Viola stated that she has to concur with Larry Sharpsteen . 9 Viola added that in the past 20 years or so , she doubts if there has been more than one instance where the In County Board ever took any notice where any recommendations have been made . I I Lin Davidson stated that the Planning Federation meeting he attended dealt with the history of the sewer 12 system . Lin stated that one interesting thing was a study on septic systems that did not work and a 13 concept toward getting septic system inspections . Lin said he had suggested the County do something 14 about being able to spread septic waste on approved Fields . Lin stated he was told that had been tried 15 before and did not go very far. 16 Transportation - Lin Davidson stated there is a meeting with the client committee on April 29 and he 17 hopes he will be able to get to that meeting. Lug stated that Brad Griffin ' s concept of getting that 18 connector into South Lansing, as opposed to leaving it in the middle of East Shore Circle, was accepted . 19 20 OTHER BUSINESS 21 Gregg Travis asked about the injunction against Mr. Ottenschott, whether they were asking him to do 22 something or requiring him to do something. George Totman replied that the intent is to get the judge to 23 agree to allow the Town or the bank , to go on the property to clean it up if Mr. Ottenschott does not clean 24 it up. • 25 Lin Davidson moved to adjourn at 9 : 05 PM. David Lippert seconded . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR; 26 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 27 The next meeting is scheduled for May 10, 1999 . 28 Submitted by Robin Cornell . • S