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7 : 30 ,PM Open lvfeeting- , Approve July 13 Mi�TIivs
Pri rilogc of the floor:
7 :45 PM Public Hearing T3onna Moore, Asbury Rd . ,
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• 8 : 00 : PM : oodirn 'an $d , Prop*scd Sub Div. 'F$7 inp l20- ]. 82 '
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8 : 15. PIV1 Report from Standing Corilr1i1rees .
• 8 : 30 PM WorkSession co Planning (H'uture Meads . .Related Subjects)
9:o0 ` P,M Anyching one Deenis Necessary or Helpful -fat Uoatd Diseussion
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SOWN OF LANSING
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A Town Planning Board is appointed to carry out two primary responsibilities in local
fovernnlent, As delegated by the Town Board , it executes reviews of subdivision or
other similar applications to the Town . It also serves as an advisory body to the Town
Board _
in its advisory rola , the Planning Board drafted an updated Comprehensive Plan in 1994
after extensive input by the 201 d Committee and other local groups and residents . The
Town Board moved adoption of that Plan in 1994 _
Lansing ' s original Land Use Control Ordinance was adopted in June 1973 . In October
1996, the Planning Board completed a draft of the proposed zoning amendments . Pt
subsequent meetings of residents , Planning Board and Town Board there have been
numerous revisions . The many discussions have drawn a variety of opinions and
expressions of disagreement . The issues of land use regulations are contentious and there
is no easy path to consensus .
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The Town Board is elected to carry out executive direction ofihc towns governance. The
Town Board has not evaded its responsibility in dealing with the zoning amendments
proposal ; they have read the draft, net with residents and the Planning Board , revised the
draft and revised again after discussions , They have set the matter for public hearing.
Now, it does not matter whether a particular line or paragraph was created by a citizen
suggestion, by the Town Board or the Planning Board , It is a Town of Lansing proposal
which is presented with .the consensus and support of To Planning Board which hopes to
see it adopted as a living document with a chance to grow some roots .
For the Town of Lansing Planning Board,
Brad Griffin
Secretary
cc : , Larry Tvaroha
Jeannine, Kirby
Matt Shulman
49 , George Tatman
Members of tire Planning Board
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3 Monday , August 10 , 1998 ; 7 : 30 PM PLANNING BOARD
4 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS � .
5 I Wnoles prtrenh
b Viola Ne1illcr, Chair " reecho Baker
7 * Lany Sliarpsteen * Brad Griffin
S * Lin Davidson * Al White
9 * David Lippert
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11 Larry l varaha, Toni Councilman
12 * George Tatman . Caning and Lade Enforcement Officer
13 PUBLIC PRESENT
14 . Norman Tidd 2 Dart Dr.
15 Sheldon Craig 19 Asbury Ind
If Matthew Shulman 204 Wilson 147
17 John Tidd 2 Dart Dr.
I S Bob Calpale 102 Church St . , Groton
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99 GENERAL BUSINESS
44 Viola Miller called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 PM .
22 Review of Minutes of huh 13, 1998- George Totnran handed copies of the minutes to the board
23 members arid apologized for not sending them in the packet. Viola Miller proposed delaying approval of
24 minutes .
23 NEW BUSINESS
26 Privilege of the Floor - Viola Miller stated here was no one from the public present at this time . Viola
27 stated they would continue on with the agenda.
2s Report from Committee Chairs eC Vff aaut -
29 Planning Federation- Viola Miller discussed the ,September Planning Federation schedule in Rochester .
34 Larry Sharpsteen stated that he was going to go on "Tuesday. Jackie .Baker stated that she would also' like
31 to attend_ George Totman stated he will attend for thi three days .
32 Secretary- Brad griffin stated that he has no report this evening .
33 Transportation ommittee- hie Davidson stated that at the last North host Transit meeting, there was a
34 question on transportation corridors . Lin stated that there were problem areas addressed as far as
33 intersectiones are concerned _ Lin stated he was surprised to find the study has included many mean in the
36 Town of Lansing . Lin stated it was nothing to get worked up about, but just ideas on how you handle
37 traffic to ornell . Sonrie would have limited access to keep the how of traffic moving. Lin thought they
38 should take a look at it when discussing paper roads .
BM - Larry Sharpsteen stated he had clothing new to report as he was unable to attend the last meeting_
40 Sewer Committee- Larry Sharpsteen stated drat everyone is upCo -date with latest on the sever,
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I 15rivilp a of the Floor - Matt Situirnan slated that everyone is aware of the sale of the NYSEG NYSEproperty
2 at Milliken ,Station . Matt added that iri ,speaking with Henry Asoklar, Vice President of ALS Enterprise ,
3 hedf iQi ff tde A 'ES may request the . assessment of $237 million be reassessed at $ 228 mullion ,
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5 PTrddinfearinp'`for One Lot Subdivision , Donna Moore. Tax Mop P 37. 1 -848 .2 -
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6 At 7 : 4511p . m . , Viola Miller read the legal notice . Viola asked George Tatman if people had called him
7 with :q.oesdons - George responded that he had received general question because people did not
8 rirfde tin `t i i p, 'bul Pd cornnments either for or against the subdivisiori -
9 Sheldon Grail stated that he would probably be the ono crest affected by this , Fie spoke with some of
is hi•sIob fhbfr's' and 'they did express some concerns , The main concern is that it is e small and narrow lot.
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The septic .system 'm eold be -very close to the creek bed - .[Terry dharpsteeo stated that the Tompkins
I2 loamy Eplth pepartment sets rid . the septic systems and they will not site a system within 100 ' of e
13 strewn , Laity dharp
wsteen stated that, generally speaking, the requirements of the septic system will be
: 14 set` ep dd `pe`so tests. Cedric- Tatmanadded that before a permit is issued for construction , he has to have
15 apermit .dAtA 'tde Iddalth Department . Lin Davidson explained that this process tonight is just :f:or
16 egiirdd it •MAlirsebdivisiao, itotaprolthl for eersireeti c n .
• I 7 - Sheldon Graig staled the concern was the number of feet of road Frontage . George rd trnan responded
18 That the state requires l 5 feet, but die Verse o1 Vtsirind requires 20 feet . Viola Miller stated that his
19 'eoaeerro, seenred •to de ii:h-siee .oi' the lot, and tlhe . lot .would meet the Town ' s minimum standard .
20 There dein' •no fur lsbsmemrretrts from the ptibdc, Al White motioned to close the public hearing . Lin
21 Davidson seconded , VOTE, : AIL TN FAVOR - MOTIONED CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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23 -Proposed Kirby Subdivision- Goodman Rd . Tax Map d 20-.14.2
21 Bob Walpole explained that the I irbys would like to subdivide four more lots on Goodman Road - Al
25 ' W.hite...stated he is very familiar with that property , Ile pointed ore there are drainage problems there - Al
26 1b itetelso coded •Mai on the SE 1I. is listed es "residential " land and as of noon today it is e cornfield .
27 George Tot2nar; .stated that it could be changed on the SEQR . Larry Sharpsteee stated because it is the
28 sixth lot off e coak,guous parcel of land there is not room to consider it anything other than a phase of a
29 major :subdivision according to the regulations. Brad Griffin asked if they had reviewed another lot
30 around the corner- Bob Walpole stated yes, they had . Al While stated That Goodman Road is presently e
31 dirl ' reed and ' that if,C]re subdivision is approved , the Highway Department may be petitioned to pave that
32 'road , Tin Davidson questioned the dimensions of the access way to the back Acid . Bob Walpole
33 • responded drat it is • d feet.
34 Bob 1 'alpolewsteted. all he wants to 1u- ow is what the Planning Baud rreol.s him to dc - Larry Sharpsteen
3s stated ' thet .ihe preeosshs essentially the same, although there are a coupie mom considerations for a
36 major se1TdiviSion. 'The Board discussed the 40 ' easements to the back field between lots as possible
37 1ut:ure 'flaglots , L'any ' Shazpsteen stated that it has always been the intention of the Board to discourage
38 excess - curd cuts and flag lot, although legal, work against one of our major considerations from a life
se ethlg-standipoint, Soh -Walpole Aelpole stated that lie will just submit e r •hole new map . Viola Miller staled
42 that would be..appresmlad.. Larry Sharpsteen stated it would be easier for the Poerd to focus to either
41 have e oonrplele plan for division of ide entire property or a plan that solely showed these three lots. Al
42 tWdite- agreed . ' Viola Miller also added that they would need some indication of drainage, Either way. it
43 ; oulA bewiinsidered a major subdivision. Al Waite stated he would also like the SEQR land use
.response bMrrged 1 rn -residential to agriculture .
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3 '?'own of Lansing Planning .Board, August la 1998
I OTHER BUSINESS • ` ` ' ,
2 Viola Miller asked Brad Griffin to read the letters concerning needs for archaeological surveys in rtworfr , } s
water districts for the Orear and Seacord subdivisions . George Totman stated that at the last Town
Board meeting Dave Herrick reported he had received notice from the state that they waived all that.
5 Larry Sharpsteen stated that permit application , speaking strictly for District 10, was , sent in ,i0 months ..
6 ago and the action, by law, has to be taken within 6 months . Larry stated that may be the reason it was
7 waived. Larry Sharpsteen updated the board on the Seacord development : ' ° i ' ' e�" • '
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8 Lin Davidson passed out NESTS maps on corridors, printed 7/28/98 . The Board discussedisome of the 4
9 corridors proposed .
10 Larry Sharpsteen presented maps to the board members for use with the acetate to portray pape• tar. roads . ,,,,
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12 One Lot Subdivision , Donna Moore, Tax Man # 37. 1 -8- 18.2 - Larry Sharpsteen summarized they , .
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13 Donna Moore subdivision request and concerns raised at the public liearitig. The Board .coisidered the .. ,
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14 concerns . 'The Board decided the subdivision was consistent with the subdivision .regulations ..; • . �
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is Larry Sharpsteen moved for approval of the subdivision as presented . , , Lin Davidson seconded:; VO.TE .-
16 ALL IN FAVOR: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
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18 Viola Miller raised again the question of inclusions needed for- the budget . Vio'la •stated that`it-has" Lorbe '
19 in by the 31st . Viola stated she would try to talk with the officers . They would 1ookat• ;what 'has .been ii !`
20 used in the past year . . i: : ... ., i . %.' :i • ? . -ri :_. r }r;:i1
SBrad Griffin moved to adjourn at 9 : 08 PM . Larry Sharpsteen seconded . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR;
MOTION CARRIED UNANiMOUSLY.
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23 The next meetingis scheduled for September 14 , 19 ) 8 .
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