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3 Monday , June 8 , 1998 ; 7 : 30 PM PLANNING BOARD
4 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
5 (*Denotes present)
6 * Viola Miller, Chair * Jacoba Baker
7 Larry Sharpsteen * Brad Griffin
8 Lin Davidson * Al White
9 * David Lippert
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11 * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman
12 * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
13 PUBLIC PRESENT
14 David Herrick T.G . Miller, P.C.
15 Susan Miller 194 Buck Rd
16 L.H. Pat Conlon 56 Conlon Rd
17 Peter DeLorme 186 Buck Rd
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19 GENERAL BUSINESS
• Viola Miller called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 PM .
21 Sewer Presentation by David Herrick
22 David Herrick, Town Engineer, brought the Planning Board up to speed von the progress of the Sewer
23 Committee and Town Board in developing a wastewater treatment plan. ° They finalized an area of South
24 Lansing that would be the initial sewer service area. They also outlined a planning area to help size the
25 facilities to accomodate future use. Mr. Herrick displayed maps of the initial and planning areas, and the
26 potential pipelines .
27 Mr. Herrick explained the three alternatives that were developed. The first being a Town solution, in
28 which the Town would built their own treatment plant. The second would be to expand the current
29 service from Cayuga Heights by adding gravity transmission mains from the Smugglers Path area to
30 Cayuga Heights . This would also include some properties in the Village of Lansing. This option would
31 require the Cayuga Heights Plant to expand. The third option would be Ito pipe the sewage to Cayuga
32 Heights, then divert the flow to the Ithaca Area Plant. The Ithaca Area Plant has spare capacity, more
33 than enough to accomodate the entire plan area.
34 Mr. Herrick explained that last year the committee had focused on the Town solution and submitted an
35 application to the D .E . C . to receive funding. The request did not score high enough to receive the
36 funding. The Environmental Bond Act, in making monies available fon municipalities, is looking for
37 regional solutions with regional benefit. Therefore, the Committee is now focusing on the third option
38 as it is a regional solution. Mr. Herrick stated that last week an application was put together and
A9 submitted to the D .E. C . with the Town' s blessing, as well as many of the other municipalities that would
W be involved.
41 Brad Griffin stated that the regional solution may have a higher place in the grants process, but asked if
42 it would be the most cost effective. David Herrick responded that it is not. The cost of the pump
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1 stations would excede that of the treatment plant. Mr. Herrick added that in the end, you would get away
2 from having to operate a treatment facility.
3 Kevin Kaufman stated that John Kaminskyis the Chairman of the Sewer Committee. Mr. Kaminsky
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4 could not be here so Mr. Kaufman was filling in for him. He stated that atjtheir last meeting they made a
5 motion supporting the Town Board in the application for the regional solution .
6 Viola Miller thanked Mr. Herrick, stating the Planning Board appreciates knowing what is going on.
7 Larry Tvaroha also thanked Mr. Herrick for the effort his firm was able to ,put into this in such a short
8 period of time so that they could submit the application on time. Mr. Herrick stated that they should
9 know about the funding in October.
10 Review of Minutes of May 11 , 1998- Page 6, Line 2 . . . Brad Griffin corrected. . .the Sharon Hellar. . .Page
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12 see that the Planlning Board membersS. .Pa nee 2, Linel42. Vola Miller oe 3, Line f .Viola Miller stated. . .would
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13 Planning Board members have tried. . . Vote to adopt the minutes as amended. VOTE : ALL IN
14 FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
15 Brad Griffin stated he had a comment about the minutes of that meeting. He and Al White were not
16 present at that meeting. Brad stated after he read the minutes, he wished the Planning Board had been
17 this straight up with the Town Board at the joint meeting. Viola Miller stated that perhaps the reason
18 they had not been as straight up at the joint meeting was because they had not given enough thought or
19 studied the changes yet. Al White commented that his reaction was atleast as strong as Brad ' s after
20 reading the minutes . Al stated that initially, he was quite upset that this board, which serves as an
21 advisory board to the Town Board, would tear the Town Board apart without members being present. Al
22 stated he would not have voted for the resolution that was sent to the Town Board. Viola Miller stated
23 she did not think the Town Board felt that the Planning Board was tearing them apart. Viola asked Larry
24 Tvaroha if the Town Board had taken it that way. Larry replied that if it was taken that way, he did not
25 think it was lasting. The Town Board tried to take the discussion constructively and the results have
26 shown that. Jackie Baker stated that it ended in a constructive move, ending in a very good
27 understanding between the Boards.
28 NEW BUSINESS
29 Report from Committee Chairs & Officers -
30 Treasurer- Jackie Baker stated that the Planning Board had been alloted $ 5 ,000 for the year and as of the
31 end of May they had spent $412 .
fl Transportation Committee- Brad Griffin stated that on May 16, there was a meeting on the
33 Transportation Study. Brad stated that on Frieday, June 12, there will bel a meeting of the Client
34 Committee. On June 16, there will be a meeting of the Policy and Planning Committee .
35 Sewer Committee-Viola Miller stated that the Sewer Committee has been very well reported on.
36 EMC-Viola Miller reported that Larry Sharpsteen informed her that the Environmental Committee was
37 pretty much the same as usual .
• 38 Town Board Liason- Larry Tvaroha stated the Town Board has been spending a lot of time working on
39 wastewater treatment. Mr. Tvaroha added that the Town Board has also been working on the proposed
40 zoning ordinance. Mr. Tvaroha stated that the bridge over Salmon Creek at Myers is complete . They
41 are having a ribbon cutting on Friday, June 12 , at 1 : 00 pm. •
42 Code Enforcement Officer- George Totman stated that in the last meeting, the reason for giving the one
43 lot subdivisions to the Code Enforcement Officer was discussed. George brought a copy of the minutes
44 of the meeting in which that was done if anyone wanted to see it. Viola Miller stated that the Planning
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1 Board members were finding that they were not aware of the one lot subdivisions as to how they related
2 to the Town. George reported that there has only been 3 one lot subdivisions so far in 1998 . George
• 3 gave a copy of those subdivisions to the Board members along with his monthly report. Viola Miller
4 requested that if a one lot subdivision is done during the month, George would bring it in so the Board is
5 aware of it. George reported that as of June 8 , 1998 , the estimated construction costs of building permits
6 are up $ 1 . 6 million as compared to June 8 , 1997 . Viola asked where most of the building is being done.
7 George Totman replied that most of the dollar value is in Lake Watch and the. Cayuga Highlands areas.
8 Pat Conlon asked what is the definition of a one lot subdivision . Viola Miller stated that any parcel that
9 is divided is a subdivision. A one lot subdivision is one parcel that is divided into 2 lots . Mr. Conlon
10 asked if one person divides their land into 2 lots, sells one lot, then the new owner divides his parcel into •
11 2 lots, can that continue as long as the lots meet the minimum requirements? George Totman stated,
12 theoretically, that is correct. •
13 George Totman told the Planning Board members that he has the acetate paper and grease pencils they
14 requested in the previous meeting.
15 Privilege of the Floor '
16 Susan Miller stated she was curious as to what happened to the petition to change R3 to R1 between •
17 Conlon and Buck Roads . She thinks it got may have gotten lost. Susan stated there was an allowance
18 for Hatfield' s farm to be put in the Rural Agricultural zone, and she was wondering about the 2/3 of the
19 people in this area who feel strongly about the residential character of that area. Larry Tvaroha stated
20 that the Town Board has spent time reviewing that petition. The Town Board tried to address your
21 concerns and tried to change what is allowed to accommodate those concerns.
412 Review New Proposed Zoning Ordinance
23 George Totman stated that the ordinance has not really changed that much. The Appendix II and
24 Appendix IV are relatively new. Viola Miller stated that some changes are things the Town Board
25 changed back. Brad Griffin stated he had reviewed the ordinance and shared some typographical errors
26 which he found. •
27 Brad Griffin stated that he might take issue with opening up 80% of the town to the sexually oriented
28 businesses. Dave Lippert had previously suggest the IR zone. Brad Griffin stated the more he thinks
29 about it, he tends to agree. Larry Tvaroha stated the Town Board did not tend to think of it that way.
30 Larry explained that there are restrictions so that a sexually oriented business could not be within a 1000
31 feet from any dwelling. It could not possibly fit in an IR zone and meet that requirement. Larry Tvaroha-`'
32 stated that if you look at the distance requirements, you would find that only about 5 % of the Rural :
33 Agricultural zone is open and it would not be economically feasible to put this type of business there.
34 Dave Lippert asked Larry Tvaroha to enlighten the Planning Board as to whether the Town Board had "f
35 given consideration to the fact that there is the potential for putting these businesses very far away from . .
36 law enforcement and life safety services . Larry responded that they had addressed it, but he could not
37 say that they answered that satifactorily. George Totman stated that in doing the. study with the Town
38 Attorney, they checked with the State Police and Sherriff' s Department. The response from the police
39 departments was that they have not recieved one call to go up to Kuma' s since they gave up their liquor
40 license. And the only calls about Siren' s have been from neighbors who think there is more going on
41 than dancing. The police would not back up a case for that.
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Susan ,Miller stated there were some areas in which conditions or requirements. inthe back did not agree •
Ilir3 with the Schedule. I. She noted a couple areas in which this occurred. LarryTvaroha stated that they , r,
44 would apprecriate. if she would give that information to George Totman so it.. can ..be corrected. 'r
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1 OTHER BUSINESS
2 Jackie Baker asked if the Planning Board should give a statement of support to theTown Board . Viola
3 Miller stated that on behalf of the Board, she thanked the Town Board for having put in the hours of O
4 work into this ordinance. Viola stated that she is going to make a statement at the Federation meeting
' 5 that the Planning Board has had a very cooperative Town Board working with them and they think that
6 may be unusual in Tompkins County in forming an ordinance. Viola asked Brad Griffin if he, as
7 Secretary, would draft a statement of support.
. 8 RESOLUTION, offered by Al White and seconded by David Lippert:
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9 RESOLVED , that Brad Griffin, Secretary, will write a statement in support of the proposed
10 zoning ordinance. Brad will give the statement over to the Town Board.
11 Vote of the Planning Board . . .(Aye) David Lippert
12 Vote of the Planning Board. . . (Aye) Bradley Griffin
13 Vote of the Planning Board . . . (Aye) Alvin White
14 Vote of the Planning Board. . . (Aye) Jacoba Baker
15 Vote of the Planning Board. . . (Aye) Viola Miller, Chairperson
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17 Al White motioned to adjourn at 9 : 38 PM . Jacoba Baker seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR.
18 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
19 Submitted by Robin Cornell .
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