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'teport from Committee Charsf , xP ° pyo „ , `N 9 .00 PM .,, f ;, : + xNIReportt,from Town Board Representative rfl'df • E. 0 ' 9,- , :` , . 1 ' 4,..4,4,^ 9r 3 ;it \. ♦ p� "a a4. . d .143,3.4 NP+A'/Yt a� -..a ° b .N 6halt, r � .1 � m ... . � .... .. ..oG e.�.�.„ .• .. 1 ■wno . Lansing 3 Monday, April 13 , 1998 ; 7 : 30 PM PLANNING BOARD 4 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS 5 (*Denotes present) 6 * Viola Miller, Chair * Jacoba Baker 7 * Larry Sharpsteen * Brad Griffin 8 * Lin Davidson * Al White 9 David Lippert 10 11 * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman 12 * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer 13 PUBLIC PRESENT 14 Matthew Shulman Lansing Community News 15 Ron Seacord v 1437 E. Shore Drive w : . 16 Bob Kump 50 Cherry Rd 17 Jerry Friedman 68 Cherry Rd 18 0 GENERAL BUSINESS Viola Miller called the meeting to order at 7 : 32 PM. 21 Review of Minutes of March 9, . 1998- Page 1, Line 26. . .Brad Griffin corrected. . . stated that on 22 Thursday. . .Page 2, Line 29. . .Viola Miller stated she did not think there was an official Town of Lansing 23 map. Larry Tvaroha stated he believes they do have an official map. Brad Griffin motioned to accept 24 the minutes as amended. Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION CARRIED 25 UNANIMOUSLY. 26 Privilege of the Floor- There being no one from the public present at this time, Viola closed the floor. 27 Viola stated if someone should arrive they would try to give time if needed. 28 PROJECTS PENDING 29 Ron Seacord Development - George Totman passed out a copy of the revised drainage study done by 30 Gary Wood and approved by the Town Engineer. He also passed out a copy of a letter from the Town 31 Engineer. Viola Miller read the letter aloud. Viola Miller asked if they understood that drainage has 32 been accepted. George Totman stated that is what he was told. George Totman stated the last meeting 33 was held to get it taken care of so the project could go forward. Larry Tvaroha stated that as a neighbor 34 that lives downstream, he has not seen a lot of increased turbulence or increased run off as a result of this 35 development. Larry Sharpsteen removed himself from his position on the Planning Board to speak as a 36 representative for Mr. Seacord. Larry Sharpsteen stated that the difference between Mr. Wood and Mr. 37 Herrick is in the interpretation in the peak flows. The retention pond has to be large enough to take care 38 of the number of cubic feet per minute addressed in the difference between peak and off peak flows. • Once they agreed on a figure at that meeting, they could proceed with sizing a pond that was more 40 accurate. The retention pond is now considerably smaller than originally thought necessary. Instead of 41 30 acre feet, now it is 4. 5 acre feet. Larry Sharpsteen stated Mr. Wood & Mr. Herrick will be tweaking 42 the figures as they proceed with new calculations. 2 Town of Lansing Planning Board, March 9, 1998 I Viola Miller asked if George had turned the proposal into the county. George Totman stated that he had 2 turned it into the Tompkins County Department of Planning. Mr. Totman said he received a letter from 3 Jim Hanson, dated April 9, 1998 , which stated, "After a review of the state law, the Planning • 4 Department has determined that the Town is not required to submit subdivisions for review under § 239 - 5 I and -m of the New York State General Municipal Law. " The Board acknowledged that is not what 6 they had been told in the past. George Totman stated the Board has the surveys . He gave the last big 7 map to the County Planning Board and has not received it back yet. Lin Davidson asked if all the things 8 were completed for the SEQR. Mr. Totman stated it was complete . 9 Viola Miller stated she thinks if they look over and accept the covenants, they become part of the 10 subdivision and would appear to be enforceable. George Totman stated that you should not go by the 11 covenants in approving a subdivision because the covenants can be changed by the landowner. Brad 12 Griffin stated he did not think the municipality would have either the right or the obligation to enforce it. 13 Viola stated she just wanted to make it clear that they were not including Mr. Seacord ' s covenants in the 14 subdivision. Brad Griffin stated Mr. Seacord placed the covenants before the Board voluntarily, just as 15 the Board ' s review of them was voluntary. Viola stated she wanted it so noted in the minutes. 16 Larry Sharpsteen noted again, for the minutes, that for the duration of the time his company is working 17 for Mr. Seacord; he has recused himself from any activity or action the Planning Board takes regarding 18 the subdivision. Al White motioned to accept the Final Plat for Phase I as presented. Lin Davidson 19 seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR, with 1 ABSTENTION. MOTION CARRIED . 20 The public hearing was set for April 27, 1998 , at 7 : 00 PM. 21 22 NEW BUSINESS 23 Kump - Friedman Subdivision- Mr. Kump stated that their intention is to buy the undeveloped • 24 subdivision, the 9 remaining lots, to split between them. Viola Miller stated she had done some reading 25 and suggested they consider it an undeveloped subdivision and accept it for dissolution. Viola noted that 26 both of the lots would be over 3 acres and have over 300 feet of road frontage. 27 Al White moved that the Planning Board execute a recension of the previously approved subdivision 28 north of Cherry Road according to terms of the letter from Bernie Friedman. Larry Sharpsteen seconded. 29 VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 30 Report from Committee Chairs & Officers - 31 Secretary- Brad Griffin stated in the last meeting, they had some discussion of the Tompkins County 32 Library which he shared with Tom Todd. Brad stated George Totman has also sent a copy of those 33 minutes to Tom. Mr. Todd indicated he found that interesting as the Town Representative to the 34 County. 35 Brad Griffin solicited some thoughts from Board members on how they should note the regret of the 36 Board at the resignation of Robert Todd as a member of the Board. They agreed Brad would write a 37 letter of appreciation to Robert. 38 Transportation Council- Brad Griffin stated as Town Representatives, he and Lin were advised that there 39 will be a meeting on the Transportation Study at DeWitt Middle School on May 16. 40 Brad Griffin stated that at the last working group meeting, they called in some planners. Tom 41 Neiderkorn reviewed the history of planning in Dryden and Lansing. Eric, the planner for Cornell, gave 42 an overview of some problems of the transportation system on campus . • 3 Town of Lansing Planning Board, March 9, 1998 1 Lin Davidson stated at a previous meeting they had discussed street trees. Lin stated he did get some 2 information from the Village. Lin stated that Katrina Greenly from the old Street Trees Committee has illbeen working with the Recreation Department. Lin Davidson said Katrina Greenly is interested in being on the committee when the Board is ready. Viola Miller stated they should get in touch with Katrina and 5 other members of that committee to see if they are still interested. Larry Sharpsteen added that there is a 6 list of invasive species that the experts feel it would be best not to be planting in the area. The list will 7 be made available to the Street Tree Committee, should that committee be formed. 8 Public Relations Committee- Although Dave Lippert and Jackie Baker are not present, Viola Miller 9 stated that the Board does well with public relations . Viola stated that the Board appreciates Mat 10 Shulman' s contributions in this area. 11 Maps- Al White stated he had not talked with Craig Potter yet regarding the maps . Al has left messages, 12 and was told the web site should be up and running by mid-May. Matt Shulman asked if the maps being 13 done constitute official county maps. Al White stated they are done for the Assessment Department. 14 Ordinance Officer- George Totman stated he attended a seminar on March 25 , at the Ramada Inn ,on 15 Flood Control & Flood Damage. It was put on by Cornell University and the Tompkins County 16 Planning Department. He signed up for it because he noticed Pete Larson was scheduled to be speak. 17 Because the seminar was scheduled when Pete Larson was on vacation, he had one of his employees, 18 Jack French, give the presentation. George Totman stated he was very impressed. George said Jack did 19 a wonderful job. George stated he felt it was good for the community to have someone do that. 20 George Totman stated there is renewed activity in Lakewatch. There is one new house going up now. 21 He also gave out three more permit applications for new houses in that area. 22 Planning Federation - Viola Miller stated she could not give any definite information on the training 0 meeting for the municipal officers . She believes that meeting is scheduled for April 30. The meeting of 24 the Planning Federation to discuss the training is scheduled for tomorrow night. If there is something in 25 particular before the Planning Board meets again she will let the members know. 26 Jackie Baker entered at 8 :45 PM. 27 Sewer Committee- Larry Sharpsteen stated the Sewer Committee has not had a meeting in several weeks 28 as everything is waiting on the negotiations between the Town Board and Cargill. The last discussion 29 that the Sewer Committee had was regarding the signing of the contract with the Watchtower society and 30 the negotiations with Cargill . Viola Miller asked if the Board should invite Mr. Herrick to speak at the 31 first meeting in June. The Board agreed. Larry Sharpsteen will make sure Dave Herrick knows. Brad 32 Griffin will send letter to Dave. 33 EMC- Larry Sharpsteen stated they have many sub-committee meetings regarding the Lake Source 34 Cooling Project and the removal by Cornell of the nuclear waste site on Warren Road. Larry had asked 35 the people who gave the presentation to the Planning Board if they had been in contact with the EMC . 36 They have not done so as of yet. EMC has requested the same presentation. They are also working on 37 the Colonial Cleaners site clean up. 38 Town Board Representative - Larry Tvaroha stated he thinks they are at the next step with the 39 proposed ordinance and hopes they do not have many more steps before getting it implemented. Mr. 40 Tvaroha stated he wished they had been able to give a position paper, such as this, to the Planning Board 41 at the beginning. The Town Board felt, because much of the Town has been unzoned to this point, it would be best to be less restrictive as opposed to being more restrictive. Viola Miller asked if there 4e would be more public meetings. Larry Tvaroha said no, they are looking to meet with the Planning 44 Board on the 27th, and hold a public hearing immediately thereafter, and get something in place. 4 Town of Lansing Planning Board, March 9, 1998 I Larry Tvaroha summarized that the Town Board tried to look at what has been happening in the Town 2 over the last few years. He noted that one of the biggest changes they made in the ordinance is the area 3 of East Shore Drive. Over the past 25 years, not many new houses were built which were not built on 4 family property. Therefore, that area was changed to "Commercial - Mixed Use" to allow for • 5 commercial, as well as residential, development. 6 Viola Miller stated from what she has heard, she thinks some of the changes are what the Planning 7 Board had discussed in the past. Viola stated she does realize that the Town Board needs to have 8 something the Planning Board can say they support. Larry Tvaroha stated it would be very valuable to 9 have when giving a presentationto the community. 10 Larry Sharpsteen stated he was disturbed by the inference, whether in Mr. Tvaroha' s presentation or in 11 the Supervisor' s letter, that Planning Board came up with a document that was not business friendly. 12 Larry Sharpsteen and Viola Miller stated they had tried to do so . Larry Tvaroha acknowledged that the 13 Town Board would not have been able to do this without all the help and time the Planning Board 14 contributed to the proposed ordinance. Brad Griffin asked if the format is similar to the one the 15 Planning Board presented. Larry Tvaroha stated it is very similar. 16. Viola Miller suggested the Planning Board get together before the meeting with the Town Board to 17 discuss the changes between themselves before meeting with the Town Board. Larry Sharpsteen 18 inquired about the legal review status . Larry Tvaroha stated that the Town Attorney has reviewed it. 19 George Totman added that the Town Attorney worked with the Town Board at every meeting. Viola 20 stated they would have Tom Niederkorn go over the changes also. Viola Miller stated that they need to 21 go over it at home, make notes, and get together before the meeting with the Town Board on April 27 . 22 The Planning Board will meet at 6 : 30 PM before the public hearing. The Planning Board will meet with 23 the Town Board at 8 : 00 PM instead of7 : 30 PM. 24 Brad Griffin asked Larry Tvaroha about the status of the new Town Hall. Larry Tvaroha stated they met • 25 with the architect last week. He is twinking the floor plan, moving walls and partitions . It should be 26 ready to go to bid sometime in July. Construction could possibly start around the first of September. 27 Larry Sharpsteen motioned to adjourn at 9 : 30 PM. Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. 28 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 29 Submitted by Robin Cornell.