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•2 Town of Lansing
3 Monday , February 9 , 1998 ; 7 : 30pm PLANNING BOARD
4 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
5 ( * Denotes present)
6 * Viola Miller, Chair * Jacoba Baker
7 * Larry Sharpsteen * Brad Griffin
8 * Lin Davidson * Al White
9 * David Lippert
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11 Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman
12 * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
13 PUBLIC PRESENT
14 Matthew Shulman Lansing Community News
15 Peter Delorme
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17 GENERAL BUSINESS
Viola Miller called the meeting to order at 7 : 30pm. Viola stated she is thankful to be here. Her
1089 ambition is to see everyone on the board working together as a unit and everyone working to do what
20 they can to make things go much better.
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22 Review of Minutes of January 12, 1998- Page 2, Line 28. . .A1 White corrected. . . how many
23 committees the members . . . .Line 30. . . Larry Sharpsteen corrected. . . . Larry Sharpsteen is representing
24 the Sewer Committee and the County EMC. Page 3, Line 27. . . Al White corrected. . . Jacoba Baker
25 would only be comfortable . . . .Line 33 . . .Lin Davidson clarified . . . . Lin tends to look at the neighborhood
26 opinionas it is key. . . . Al White motioned to accept the minutes as amended. Larry Sharpsteen
27 seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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29 Privilege of the Floor- Viola Miller explained the purpose of the "Privilege of the Floor" on the
30 agenda as an attempt to find from the public that may be present what they would like to address .
31 There being no one from the public present at this time, Viola discussed a call she received from
32 Veronica Bednarczyk, 29 Grandview Drive. Ms . Bednarczyk complained about the road, the drainage is
33 bad, and she was concerned if they were going to bring a bakery in that area. Ms . Bednarczyk wished
34 the Planning Board would give special consideration to the drainage in that area. Larry Sharpsteen
35 responded that this has come up several times over the past 30 or 40 years, Ms . Bednarczyk has been
36 complaining about her drainage since before Larry' s uncle passed away. Every time she has a problem,
they have gone up there and have done what they could to fix it. Larry has heard from the 2 most recent
4 Highway Superintendents and they have done everything they could short of dynamiting a deeper ditch.
39 Viola Miller asked if there is something they should be considering when looking at Pheasant Way and
40 those roads . Larry Sharpsteen stated they should build them higher. They should keep that in mind
41 when considering new developments in that area.
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PROJECTS PENDING
2 Michael Richardson, 21 Pheasant Way, Tax Map #p/o40.-3-29 •
3 Mr. Richardson thanked the board for seeing him on such short notice . He would like to purchase about
4 10 acres of land with road frontage of 60 ' . He understands that it is less than the usual 150 ' , but believes
5 the parcel to the north that was just purchased also has only 60 ' of road frontage. Al White stated what
6 you need is a safe access, and they allow 20 ' for safe access on a flag lot so he does not have a problem`
7 with the road frontage . It would even allow enough room for a future road. Viola Miller asked what this
8 would do the drainage . Mr. Richardson stated Pheasant Way is pretty level at that point, and that at the
9 end of the road on the east, it then tends to slope to the east, away from Grandview Drive . Viola Miller
10 asked what he plans to do with the property. Mr. Richardson stated he would like to build a house on
11 the property.
12 Al White stated they would have to treat this as a subdivision, non-comforming lot due to only 60 ' of
13 road frontage. George Totman stated if they called it a flag lot, it would be a conforming lot. George
14 read the definition of a flag lot. Lin Davidson and Brad Griffin agreed that it could be called a flag lot
15 according to the description. Lin stated he would go with a flag lot. Al White stated that it can and does
16 meet all the specifications of a non-conforming lot. Larry Sharpsteen would consider it a non-
17 conforming lot. Dave Lippert, Brad Griffin, and Al White agreed they would consider it a non-
18 conforming lot. Al White stated he thought the board would look favorably on approving this
19 subdivision. Mike Richardson thanked the board for their time.
20 Ron Seacord Development :George Totman stated he had contacted Mr. Seacord because he needs the
21 maps to send to the County Planning Board, but he has not heard back from Mr. Seacord. Larry
22 Sharpsteen stated the maps are in the works at the architects.
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24 REPORTS FROM OFFICERS
25 The Vice President and Secretary have no reports .
26 The Treasurer stated they are being asked to know what their money goes for, how much they are
27 allotted, and how much is drawn. Jackie Baker stated that Sharon Bowman will do a three month
28 summary of expenses charge against the Planning Board budget.
29 Report from Town Board Representative - Larry Tvaroha was not present. Viola Miller asked
30 George if he could give an update on the situation with the Town Hall. George stated there will be a
31 public hearing on the 18th regarding the proposal of the new Town Hall . The Town Hall Advisory
32 Committee is going to give the presentation to the public, then the Town Board will take over from there
33 and discuss the finances . Viola asked George the status of the proposed zoning ordinance. George
34 stated to his understanding, they are working on it, going over it page by page. Viola Miller asked what
35 was happening with the Pinney project. George stated he was at a County meeting about a month ago
36 and the county was a bit concerned because they had not heard from the Pinneys . George had a meeting
37 with Mr. Hanson, Barbara Blanchard, Larry Tvaroha, and the Pinneys. The Pinneys have hired Tom
38 Neiderkorn to help guide them in making out the paperwork. They are working on it now. They are
39 proceeding to buy the rest of their restaurant equipment, and have hired someone to help layout the
40 marina if it is approved. They are planning to have a marina, an open air restaurant, and an inside boat
41 storage. There is a possibility that when Cornell starts their cooling operation, they might bring their
42 steel in through the Pinneys ' property because it is the most accessible. •
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Report from Committee Appointees -
. 2 Tompkins County Northeast Sub Area Transportation Committee-Brad Griffin stated this is a county
3 effort which will meet once a month for one year, plus committee meetings . Brad stated there are 4 or 5
4 other people from Lansing on the committee. The group is soliciting them to come up with as many
5 road-traffic problem situations that can be thought of, whether it is turning lanes, long wait intersections,
6 dangerous intersections, etc . It has been suggested that Brad should use the Lansing Community News
7 to solicit public input . Brad will keepthe Board posted from month to month. The Community Dispute
8 Resolution Center is involved in operating this thing and there is quite a lot of attention to procedural
9 aspects. Lin Davidson is also on this committee . Lin stated Tom LiVigne was going to talk to Pete
1 o Larson, and Lin was going to talk to the school and maybe someone at Cargill in charge of
t transportation. George Totman stated' Cargill has bought Celie ' s Diner and will tearthat down. He also
12 heard Cargill has purchase offers in on the houses leading from there up to Portland Point Road. From
13 what he heard, Cargill ' s intention is, if they can purchases the houses, to put a third lane in to take care
14 of the that dangerous part of the highway. Matt Shulman stated he talked to Bob Supko at Cargill . Mr.
15 Supko stated aside from Celie ' s, they have made no offers, have purchased no other properties , nor are
16 discussing the purchase of any other properties . Mr . Supko said they plan to use the driveway they built
17 opposite the firehall and turn that into their main entrance for 3 purposes : eliminate wide turns on
18 Portland Point Road, to avoid the problems of cars coming over the rise on Portland Point Road while
19 trucks are still going slowly, and to stack more vehicles to increase there productivity.
20 Environmental Management Committee- Larry Sharpsteen said the E. M. C . is obviously concerned with
21 continuing their work on the Unique Natural Areas Document with the hopes that it will be used by the :
22municipalities in planning, subdivision development and selecting areas for uses if zoning changes are
03 being considered . Larry stated one of the problems the committee is having right now is the County has
24 changed the database so everything has to be re-entered into the new database. One of the other major
25 concerns is the lakeshore cooling, which he thinks they are jumping in a little belatedly since the D . E .C .
26 has already issued the permits . He believes some of the concerns are well founded because the primary
27 concerns are lack of local oversight for the monitoring process, the fact that the monitoring process is
28 performed by Cornell and not an independent laboratory, and the lack of a back up .
29 Sewer Committee- Larry Sharpsteen stated they recently reported out the Wastewater Resource Plan. He
30 has a draft copy he will make available to anyone who wants to read it. He is expecting an up-to-date
31 copy at any moment. They have turned it over with their endorsement to the Town Board. Larry
32 suggested to Dave Herrick that he get in contact with George to get on the agenda for this meeting to do
33 a presentation to the Planning Board. The Sewer Committee has recently had a meeting with the D . E. C .
34 concerning their funding. The D .E. C. took pains to clarify that any project for consideration must be
35 treating an existing problem and can not have as part of its intention, planning for future growth. Dave
36 Herrick took the report from that meeting to the Town Board.
37 Planning Federation- Viola Miller stated the Federation is putting on the workshop on the adult
38 entertainment regulations and what municipalities need to know, anyone interested in attending should
39 pre-register as soon as possible. They are also working on training session for the planning boards and
40 site plan review so that people can understand it better. That will take place in late April . They are
41 looking for cosponsors . Larry Sharpsteen stated maybe the E.M. C . would be interested in cosponsoring
42 it.
3 Viola Miller stated they normally have committees under the bylaws . One is the Professional Planning
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Relations Committee . Viola would ask Brad Griffin to serve on that and she would also like to serve on
45 it. Viola also asked David Lippert and Jackie Baker to serve on the Public Relations Committee, which
46 will be responsible in releasing information concerning the activities of the Lansing Planning Board to
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the public. Al White motioned to accept the committees. En Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN
2 FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3 NEW BUSINESS •
4 Goals for 1998- Viola stated now would be a good time to discuss the board ' s goals for the year. Viola
5 suggested discussing paper roads, how they should be done, reviewing the Comprehensive Plan, and
6 getting a real selection of maps so when they are sitting here they can look at a map and know exactly
7 what and where they are talking about and how it fits in.
8 Brad Griffin stated the idea of looking at goals early in the new year is a good one. Paper roads and
9 Comprehensive Plans are logical places to start. Brad suggested they should all be prepared to respond
10 to any questions the Town Board has, if there is any way to help the ordinance they have drafted be
11 accepted. Brad also suggested taking a look at a couple items discussed in the 2010 plan. Maybe take a
12 look at the Traffic Committee and the Street Tree Committee. Lin Davidson stated it would be a good
13 idea to get the support of the Town behind it. George Totman asked what would be the goal of the
14 Street Tree Committee. Lin Davidson stated to improve the appearance of the town. There is public
15 land on which trees could be planted, and NYSEG has an approved list of trees which they support
16 putting in under their wires, and it could be publicized what trees they could put next to the road. Brad
17 Griffin stated that what comes to his mind is that they have a public park that does not have very much
18 shade. Brad mentioned that a little place like Ledyard has an active proposition where they have
19 solicited property owners that would like a tree by the roadside. Viola Miller stated the Village of
20 Lansing asks in their letters if you would like to plant a tree that is acceptable on your property,
come
21 forward and they will supply a tree or a certain amount toward the tree. Al White he is o to
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22 trees, as he plants quite a few of them, but thinks trees planted near the road are hazardous to drivers.
23 They also make pulling out onto the road hazardous. Viola Miller stated that reason has to be with •
24 anything. Viola stated she has a problem with conifers on Bush Lane, so you do have to be careful, but
25 certainly the town could be enhanced by trees .
26 Jackie Baker asked about towers, do they need to worry about that at all ? Viola stated that is something
27 that will come up. Viola asked George Totman if the Town Board was handling that or do they want
28 help from the Planning Board on it. George replied the only thing he knows is they have asked the town
;9 attorney to take a look at it. Al White asked how many different cellular companies are involved in this
30 tower business . George Totman stated that to his understanding there are new ones sprinting up all the
31 time, but in Trumansburg there were just two companies that he knows of. Viola asked if this was
32 something they wanted to look into. Al White stated he thinks the Town Board definitely has to be the
33 lead agency on it, and if the Planning Board can assist, they should certainly volunteer to do so .
34 Viola Miller asked if the board thought it was wise to review the Comprehensive Plan to see how it fits
35 with the development as they find out what the development is . Al White asked if they have to revise
36 that every five years . Viola Miller said they do not have to, but it is a good idea to do so . Larry
37 Sharpsteen stated they had committed to not letting five years pass without reviewing it. Al White stated
38 he thinks the next time to review it would be after the Town passes the zoning ordinance.
39 Larry Sharpsteen stated he has been working with Tom Neiderkorn for the past three years, working on
40 maps. They commissioned a map with all subdivisions and property lines on it, to a scale of 1 in 600
41 which is probably about 60% complete. Larry feels they should see that to completion. It was put on the
42 side burner as most of the time they had with Tom was taken up working on the zoning ordinance. That
43 map could be used in one piece or could be used section by section . Larry stated he felt they should have
44 a committee to work with Tom to complete the map . Viola Miller stated Tom had suggested it was •
45 possible that it could be completed through the County Planning Department, thereby saving us money.
46 Viola asked if they could have someone work with Tom and look into that, see what might be done, then
5 Town of Lansing Planning Board, February 9, 1998
1 figure out a way it could be displayed here for our use . Al White stated the U . S . Geological Survey
W2 maps are relatively cheap and really pretty complete with all the topographical information, although
3 they are certainly not to the scale of 1 in 600 . Viola Miller asked if they could have someone to work
4 with Tom and George to see what maps they have and how they can be used and displayed . Viola
5 asked if they would accept that assignment. They agreed.
6 The next meeting is scheduled for March 9 , 1998 .
7 Matt Shulman stated Tompkins Consolidated Area Transit (TCAT) is holding a meeting at the Lansing
8 Town Hall on the February 12 and in the Village of Lansing on February 19 to review the feedback from
9 the first meetings, and seek addition feedback and pose options before they make the final decision.
10 Jackie Baker stated she will try to go to that meeting.
11 Brad Griffin motioned to adjourn at 10 : 00pm. Lin. Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR.
12 MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
13 Submitted by Robin Cornell .
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