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K 3 7 307P7M % Lansing•,TowniHall` Board•Room" ' 4.• Meetingxcalled' by Attendees : Agendaetopics 0 rZVx.q '°7 • 30-745 PM ", Approue`IVlinutes May Meeti• ng General Business. ; rx , / 7 :45'841'5tPM' John ``& •Lmda Elle R ' ' ,w ry equest for or.,- easements• :7 ntr .. ..? - g lot��instead.' „ of,owne'r'ship (42 1 52,42) . _. 8 15 . 8 3OPM 7Robert ;Walpole Feeney SubdivisionyN Lansing School Rd ,. _. ,. A p/o7 . - 1 -33 . 12- '` i 8 :30PM Any otherbusiness that one=deems necessary to brmg ;before the Board Be prepared}to review�end of purple- sheets .#700± 1-500twL/ TOM Niederkorn - • . • TOWN OF LANSING • Planning Board Monday , June 10 , 1996 ; 7 : 30 p . m . PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (* Denotes present) * Jackie Baker * Cheryl Nickel * Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen, Chair Brad Griffin * Robert Todd • * Viola Miller * Al White . Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer PUBLIC PRESENT Keith Losen Drake Road , Lansing , New York Bob Wagner Drake Road , Lansing , New York Bob Walpole Box 130 , Groton , New York Frank White Drake Road , Lansing , New York Robert Todd opened the meeting at 7 : 35 p . m . Review of Minutes from May 13. 1996 Page Three, Other Business, Five Lines from Bottom - Lin Davidson corrected " . . . numerous ways to meet them . " Page Four, Airport Hazard Zone, Third Line - On behalf of Brad Griffin, Larry Sharpsteen corrected the runway number from 312 to 32 . Lin Davidson made a motion to approve the minutes as corrected ; Viola Miller seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY John and Linda Ellery, Burdick Hill Road. Tax Map #42 . -1-52 . 42 George Totman explained that John and Linda Ellery own property that fronts on Burdick Hill Road , which is in the Village of Lansing . The rear of their property is located in the Town of Lansing . They currently reside on the parcel with the 450 feet of road frontage in the Village , and want to sell the rear parcel in the Town with an easement of 50 feet in the Village . The Ellery ' s were having trouble with the Village in getting approval for another curbcut , but they would very much like to sell this rear parcel . They were planning to bring this issue to the Town of Lansing Planning Board in hopes that some guidance could be given as to how to get this property ready to be sold . Since they submitted their information to George , an adjacent property owner , John Young , has expressed interest in purchasing this parcel from the Ellery ' s which will give him better access to his property . On behalf of the Ellery ' s , George apologized and stated that they will wait and see how this proposal works out with Mr . Young before they bring this issue to the Planning Board . Viola clarified that this Board could not act on this request anyway until a decision has been made by the Village Planning Board . IP General Business Intermunicipal Cooperation - Larry explained that he has spoken with Grace Allen who attended the waterfront planning meeting in the City . She wanted to know the intentions of the Planning Board with Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, June 10, 1996 regard to the Intermunicipal Cooperation on the waterfront project since the committee is only made up of the Town and City of Ithaca and Cornell University . Her concern was that neither the Town of Ulysses nor the Town of Lansing were involved in this process , when their waterfronts far outnumber those of the committee representatives . Robert was concerned that this committee didn' t try to involve the other two towns . Larry stated that the towns were invited , but their meeting conflicted with a • meeting of this Board . George stated that the Town Board was also concerned that the Town of • Lansing wasn ' t represented on this committee . . Viola indicated that she will raise this concern at the next meeting of the Tompkins County Planning Federation . Town Square Survey - Cheryl Nickel distributed a copy of the letter that is being disseminated with the survey to the users of the " town square " to get feedback. With the information collected from the survey , the project can proceed . Larry stated that there are always going to be people who dissent and disagree , and if it hadn ' t been for a few people with vision and ambition, the Town of Lansing at this point wouldn ' t have the parks or the ballfields , etc . He felt that the manner in which the Board has been operating lately has been very enlightened by bringing people in on it . Larry complimented Cheryl and told her she was doing a good job . Jackie Baker asked if Cheryl had distributed any of the surveys at Lansing. Day . Cheryl stated that she had cancelled the booth for Lansing Day , as she had other things to work on and would rather just disseminate the survey through the mail . BI District - Larry commented about the use of property along Route 34B from the Rogues Harbor intersection to the top of Portland Point Road . He indicated that the majority of those parcels are either owned by the Fire Department or commercial businesses . Viola questioned whether this district should be labeled industrial rather than commercial . Cheryl questioned those parcels adjacent to the industrial parcels and whether buffers would be required . The response was that it would need to be discussed on a case by case basis . Larry felt that at least 300 feet from the end of Drake Road on the northwest end still needs to be included in the B1 District . Lin reminded the Board that the concerns raised for Drake Road were based on safety , drainage , and water . People are affected by these types of changes, and they need to be seriously considered . Larry added that it is likely that sewer and public water will be available in this area in the near future , which may help to address some of these problems . Viola reminded the Board that a zoning ordinance is a living thing and can be changed . . It should be created to impose the least amount of impact on the smallest number of people . If and when sewer and water does become available , then the ordinance could potentially be changed to reflect those new items . Frank White introduced himself and explained that he represents the Ridge Road end of Drake Road . He wanted to inform the Board that he shares the same concerns raised by Keith Losen . Larry explained that the B1 District is being designed for compatible , multiple use (mixed use of homes and businesses) . Larry suggested reducing the size of the District by removing everything west of Route 34 (East Shore Drive) with the exception of the Route 34B frontage . Subdivision. David Feeney, North Lansing School Road, Tax Map #7.-1-33 . 12 • Robert Walpole appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a three-lot subdivision of property belonging to David Feeney on North Lansing School Road . The complete parcel is a total of 72 acres , but this subdivision request only involves 6 . 33 acres . Larry questioned whether the back property line is parallel to the road , since on the sketch map both lots #2 and #3 show identical dimensions and yet their total square footage is different. Mr . Walpole explained that the current map is only hand drawn, but the final survey will clearly identify the property lines on the map . The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration . • The Planning Board recognized that there is an existing house on the corner of Van Ostrand Road , and indicated that the developer should take every consideration to avoid any adverse runoff to that t Town of Lansing Planning Board Page •3 Monday, June 10, 1996 ® property by the development of these three lots . Viola pointed out that the regulations state that existing trees shall not be removed . Mr . Walpole explained that these parcels are currently all open . Concern was expressed about the safety for drivers on that road with the addition of three new driveways at the top of that somewhat blind hill . Mr . Walpole stated that he will discuss this with the Town Board and the County to see if a sign can be posted that indicates " driveways ahead . " Robert raised the concern about landlocking the remaining acreage behind these three road front parcels . Mr . Walpole stated that he has explained this to Mr . Feeney , who is keeping this situation in consideration . Al White made a motion to approve the subdivision as presented and to schedule a public hearing ; Lin Davidson seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY A public hearing is scheduled for Monday, July 8, 1996, at 8 p.m. GENERAL BUSINESS Planning Meeting - Larry stated that he has left messages for both the Town Engineer and the County Health Department representative inviting them to attend the June 24 meeting of this Planning Board to discuss the engineering problems involved with the development of residential property along the lakefront . Cheryl indicated that she won ' t be able attend the June 24 meeting . As an update on the East Lake development , Cheryl commented that after this last severe storm , the culvert at the road overflowed . Because of this overflow , the bank has been eroded . With time and each passing storm that bank will continue to erode , and eventually there will have to be some stabilization or the road will erode . She commented that ( 1 ) it was a tremendous storm, and (2) that there is more water coming down from the Hicks development above . She has met with Soil Conservation to discuss the concept of creating a wetland to try to absorb more of the water and to try to avoid such soil erosion . Larry stated that there were several other areas in the county that had a lot of trouble handling the amount of runoff from that storm too . Keith Losen - Mr . Losen thanked the Board for its time at the last meeting and tonight for reconsidering the zoning ordinance and considering the concerns that he raised . He also stated that if there is something that he could help the Planning Board with as far as traffic safety , etc . ,- he would consider becoming more involved . Larry thanked Mr . Losen for preparing his statements and concerns in advance of the meeting and for bringing them to the attention of this Board . Continued Ordinance Review - Cheryl questioned if there was a way to identify what ordinances are already in existence so that it is easier to refer to once the public hearings get started . Tom explained that in the past he has split the page and on the left side placed the existing ordinance „ and on the right side placed the proposed items . George reminded everyone that the old ordinance only applies to about 30 percent of the town; for the rest of the town the zoning ordinance would be new . Perhaps there only needs to be an indication that the item is currently in existence . Tom reviewed the item on the Zoning Board of Appeals . The Zoning Board of Appeals can give relief or actually change the wording of the law by permitting uses that are not permitted (undersized lots , lack of road frontage , lack of adequate area , etc . ) , and relief for non-conforming uses . The Zoning • Board of Appeals does not becoming involved in issuing special permits , special conditions , or Site Plan Review . Robert questioned whether this new proposal would actually change some of the currently zoned areas into new districts . Tom explained that some areas may be changed . This change process can be initiated by the Town Board , the Planning Board , or a citizen. It then becomes an official request received by the Town Board who then forwards it to the Planning Board to prepare a report . Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, June 10, 1996 Ultimately there has to be a public hearing before the change can be implemented: There is also the 4110 requirement that a petition be signed by 20 percent of the landowners within 100 feet of the boundary to support the change request . The vote by the Town Board must be a super majority (majority plus one) before the change is accepted . Lakefrontage - Cheryl stated that the current Health Department regulations require only a 20-foot setback from the cliff edge for a septic system . Speaking specifically about the East Lake development , many of those trees along the cliff edge have been cut down because they can ' t be in the septic field . The removal of these trees only adds to the soil erosion along the cliff edge . Larry suggested reconsidering the possibility of defining a strip along the lakefront , which would be stricter by requiring the lot size of 1 ' acre perhaps . Robert added that not all of the area along the lakefront is steep slopes . It was agreed to not make a decision until the Board has had an opportunity to meet with the Town Engineer and Health Department . Tom Neiderkorn - Larry indicated that Tom is authorized the use of a typing service , if needed , to pull the final draft of the proposed zoning ordinance together for presentation . Tom felt that a typing service might be useful once the format has been decided upon . Tom thought he could have a complete document to the Planning Board by the last meeting in July , to give to the Town Board at their first meeting in August . The Board agreed that rather than a comparative format, they would like Tom to use an asterisk beside the items that have not changed or did not have any significant changes . Viola made a motion to have Tom prepare the Long Generic Environmental Impact Statement ; Al White seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Tom stated that this Statement will not be available for review until after the proposal has been forwarded to the Town Board . EXECUTIVE SESSION The Planning Board went into executive session . • The Planning Board made a resolution to recommend to the Town Board that Cheryl Nickel be reappointed . Robert Todd made a motion to adjourn this meeting ; Al White seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY This meeting was closed at 10 : 00 p . m . Submitted by Michelle Eastman The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, June 24, 1996, at 7:30 p . m.