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Home My WebLink About1996-04-08 To Auburn To Seneca Falls N m„„.;, :,, ;;, xgSr ,1 gj ,{RIV r , gr* .' TOWN of LANSING ` �, v l r a -t 'a3 a 3 f' �}, .� arc" +-° "fi d i ® `F \ ffa k ° � ikk^. ` f . ,; Enl. Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty Aa t `` z ,"rye y1 Cei ' O " } ggP�� ssA� t4d �u �tii I% , 4Fo - - , t .' fid a d 1111 tit- L £} i i }v Ha �}�}}} :jto Town of Lansing � N \ ORDINANCE DEPT. \` I\ Box 186 ` . i '� : Lansing, New York 14882 1 r To Ithaca TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD DATE : 04 / 08 / 96 TIME : 9V7 : 30pm" ® PLACE : Lansing Town Hall - Board Room AGENDA 7 : 30pm - Open Meeting - General Business Approval of 3 / 11 & 3 / 25 Minutes 8 : 00pm - Resume Activities toward completing the review & update on the LAND USE ORDINANCE for the town TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday , April 8 , 1996 ; 7 : 30 p . m . PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (* Denotes present) * Jackie Baker Cheryl Nickel * Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen, Chair * Brad Griffin Robert Todd Viola Miller * Al White Larry Tvaroha , Town Councilman * George Totman , Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer PUBLIC PRESENT Don Konowalow 25 Franklyn Drive , Lansing , NY Review of Minutes from Meeting Held March 11 , 1996 Al White made a motion to accept the minutes as presented , which had been tabled at the March 25 meeting ; Jackie Baker seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ® Review of Minutes from Meeting Held March 25 , 1996 Brad Griffin made a motion to accept the minutes as presented ; Jackie Baker seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMO USL Y OTHER BUSINESS Ron Parks - Al White felt that the minutes should reflect that Mr . Parks ' position is that the geography of the area should be changed to accommodate him . Any water coming down that hill and onto Mr . Parks ' property is from a naturally occurring condition . The developers are only responsible for any additional water that comes as a result of the development not the ambient flow of the water that was there because of the geography of the land . Larry Sharpsteen added that the land was there long before Hovarth ever built the house . The Parks were unable to deal with the previous owners of the land in a manner that would resolve the situation . Currently , it is the opinion of the town attorney that the best course of action for any member of the board is to judiciously ignore the situation and have any further communications be through the town attorney . The town attorney has advised that should Mr . Parks approach any member of the Planning Board , they should pleasantly indicate that any discussions should be through the town attorney . George Totman stated that Mr . Parks understands this condition . Site Plan Review, Article VII - 300 . 9 Al White was concerned that an ingress/egress from a farm field would qualify it under the category of a development . Larry also gave the example of logging the wood off of a parcel . 300 . 41 Frontage (see lot width) - Al felt that the definitions were too complicated ; for example , the description of lot width . He suggested just stating that the lot width is • the road frontage . George added that the definition needs to specify continuous frontage versus just road frontage . Al felt there was too much duplication throughout the plan . Larry suggested continuing the reference to lot width , but for lot width use the street right-of-way . Al felt it was too complicated ; each section seems to refer to another . 300 . 78 removed . Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, April 8, 1996 300 . 89 Private Roads - Al suggested that this definition state that the two lots need to be owned be 410 different people . Hefted the example of farmers that own many parcels and provide private access to those parcels . He was very concerned that this item would cause many problems for farmers . Larry suggested changing the word " lot " to "dwelling , " but not indicating the need for different owners . This would require the easement or private road if there were homes on those two or more parcels . Lin pointed out that there are several examples of shared driveways in the Town of Lansing . George suggested reviewing this with the town attorney . Larry felt that the town attorney would agree with Tom ; the more restrictive , the more the town attorney would probably like it . Al White also suggested adding " in an approved subdivision " to this definition . Al White stated that he would not support this proposal as is , and one of the reasons is because of Section 300 . 89 . He stated that he would not support anything that would put any member of the Town of Lansing in jeopardy because they didn ' t understand the ordinance . Discussion also turned to whether or not the dwellings should be individually owned or rented . George stated that many people that get approval for a private road tend to build the road to town specifications right from the beginning . It is the town attorney ' s interpretation of the State law that there can be no more than four parcels serviced by a private road . The issue of ownership of the parcel (s) needs to be addressed . 704 . 1 retained - 701 . 2 , 701 . 3 , and 701 . 4 removed . 300 . 96 Outdoor Advertising and Billboards - Larry felt that this definition should tie in and confirm the existing Sign Ordinance . 400 . 0 Land Use Control Areas - Al White stated that this section , as written, does not include the Rural Agriculture District . The wording to be added was suggested as " any project , activity , or action related to any agricultural activity . " 700 . 1 Restricting Development in Designated Wetlands - Brad suggested being more specific by • indicating State designated wetlands . 701 . 4 . 7 Frontyard Screening - Brad suggested striking this entire piece . 300 . 53 Landscaping - The wording was suggested to be changed as follows : " or other natural or decorative features . " Jackie wants to encourage trees and keeping beautiful areas and open space , but realizes that the Planning Board can ' t demand it . But , it can strongly encourage those ideas . Brad felt that decorative features could be a windmill or pink flamingo . The definition was then suggested as : " alteration or finishing of a site by grading , planting , or ornamental rockeries or fencing . " 701 . 4 . 8 Loading and Outside Storage - Larry suggested limiting the screening to trash , but realized that it might be difficult for some businesses , as far as setup . Al felt that there are certain members of the Planning Board that are on a power trip ; and that as long as this is going to happen, there is going to be an argument . He doesn ' t want to see things in the zoning ordinance that are going to be hardships , unworkable , or difficult to enforce . He felt that it is important that if something is an allowed use now , that it shouldn ' t be restricted in the future . Brad agreed , and felt it was important to keep this ordinance as simple and non-intrusive as possible . The Board agreed to strike this item from the proposal . Larry stated that the important part of all of this item is the safety issue , and not whether the site looks pretty . His example is the Ithaca Journal and its loading dock on the street side . There is a strong safety concern for trucks parking and backing out into traffic . Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, April 8, 1996 ® 701 . 4 . 10 New York State Traffic Law - Larry didn ' t feel this item belongs in the Site Plan Review . 701 . 4 . 15 Performance Standards - George stated that the town definitely does not want a sound ordinance . Al felt the issue also was with odors , from a restaurant , for example . The Board agreed to strike this entire item . The Planning Board will continue its review at the next meeting . Al White made a motion to adjourn ; Lin Davidson seconded . VOTE:• ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY This meeting was closed at 9 : 50 p . m . Submitted by Michelle Eastman The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, April 22, 1996, at 7:•30 p . m . I t) •