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TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD
DATE : 03 / 11 /
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PLACE : Lansing Town Hall - Board Room
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AGENDA
7 : 30pm - Open Meeting - General Business
Approval of January & February Minutes
Feeney Subdivision for information only
8 : 00pm - Charles Guard - 2 Flag Lot Subdivision
Tax Map # 27 . - 1 - 14 .
8 : 15pm - Any other business that one deems important
to bring before the Board
8 : 30pm - Time Permitting - Follow Up on March 4th Meeting
TOWN OF LANSING
Planning Board
Monday, March 11 , 1996; 7: 30 p.m.
• PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(* Denotes present)
* Jackie Baker * Cheryl Nickel
* Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen, Chair
* Brad Griffin Robert Todd
Viola Miller * Al White
* Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman
* George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
PUBLIC PRESENT
Charles Guard 177 Salmon Creek Road, Lansing, NY
Dan Konowalow 25 Franklyn Drive, Ithaca, NY
Duane Ray 43 Atwater Road, Lansing, NY
Patrick Russo University Park Apt. #I101 , Ithaca, NY
Patrick Russo
Patrick Russo appeared before the Planning Board with a question concerning the proposed new
zoning ordinance. He is considering purchasing the vacant business at 1 Lansingville Road, which is
ii currently unzoned but proposed to be zoned low residential. If and when the zoning is passed, he
questioned whether the site will be allowed to continue as a business or only be allowed as residential.
Larry Sharpsteen responded that if it is a business now and when it is purchased it is continued as a
business, it will be allowed to continue operating as a business. If the building/business is inoperable
for over a year once the zoning is passed, then it will not be allowed to continue as a business after
that time.
Mr. Russo also questioned whether the type of business could be changed from its previous use. The
Planning Board agreed that the type of business could be changed.
If he purchases the home/business, it will also be his residence. George Totman explained that the
home and the business are attached. Mr. Russo questioned whether he would be allowed to build a
separate house on the same parcel, but away from the business. The Planning Board agreed that this
action is within the intent of the new proposed ordinance. They asked that Mr. Russo put his
questions in writing; those questions will then be presented to Tom Neiderkorn for his interpretation
and response. Mr. Russo asked to have the responses to his questions in writing as well. Larry stated
that the responses could be in writing, but would specify only the intent of the proposed new zoning
ordinance. Since the ordinance has not yet been passed, the restrictions under the ordinance may
change from their present intent.
Jackie questioned whether there is adequate parking at this business site. Mr. Russo stated that he
does not, at this point, intend to increase parking. If the business were to stay as a furniture repair
shop, the existing parking is adequate. If the business were to change to a retail operation, parking
would need to be increased.
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Review of Minutes from Meeting held January 22, 1996 41
Page Two, Paragraph Six, Line Five - change to "out of" a commercial district. Lin Davidson made a
motion to approve the minutes as amended Jackie Baker seconded. VO1 L:• ALL IN FAVOR;
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Review of Minutes from Meeting held February 5, 1996
Brad Griffm was not in attendance at this meeting, Paul Butler, Larry Tvaroha, Jeff Cleveland, and
Jeannine Kirby were in attendance. Page Two, Second Paragraph - delete the second "a muck. "
Page Three, Fourth Paragraph - change "legalize" to "legality. " Al White made a motion to approve
the minutes as amended; Brad Griffin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY
Review of Minutes from Meeting held February 12, 1996
Lin Davidson made a motion to approve the minutes as presented; Jackie Baker seconded. VOTE:
ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Review of Minutes from Meeting held February 26, 1996
Page Two - change to "in" what type of zone. Lin Davidson made a motion to approve the minutes as
amended; Brad Griffin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
VIOLA MILLER
Viola Miller called from Houston, Texas to let the Planning Board know that Jim is doing well and
she plans on attending the April meeting.
Flaglot Subdivisions, Charles Guard, Buck Road, Tax Map #27-1-14
George Totman explained that Charles Guard is requesting approval of a two flaglot subdivision.
Charles Guard had purchased the entire parcel, and now wishes to sell off the portion that has the
house on it. Years ago this parcel had a large amount of road frontage on Dug Road, but the Town
abandoned the road leaving this parcel approximately 139 feet of road frontage on Buck Road. This
subdivision would leave 49 feet of road frontage for the front 12 acres, and the remaining 90 feet of
road frontage for the rear 80 acres. George suggested that Mr. Guard leave the larger portion of road
frontage for the larger parcel for the possibility of future development.
The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration.
Al White made a motion to approve the flaglot subdivision as presented; Lin Davidson seconded.
VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Information Only - Subdivision, David Feeney, North Lansing School Road, Tax Map #7-1-33. 12
Robert Walpole requested feedback from the Planning Board as to a proposed three-lot subdivision of
David Feeney's property on North Lansing School Road. This proposal is only for feedback as
presented. George explained that the lots currently meet regulations. Al White stated that if the entire a
parcel was presented at one time, he would recommend that the lots be narrower in depth or of similar
depth as the one on the corner of Van Ostrand Road. Jackie Baker suggested the possibility of
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® easements across the front of the parcels. She was concerned about adding three more curb cuts onto
that hill on North Lansing School Road, and suggested that the driveways be combined. Comments
were also raised to making sure that there is access to the rear parcel(s). George indicated that he
would provide this feedback to Mr. Walpole.
OTHER BUSINESS
SEQR Meeting - Larry Sharpsteen stated that he has been asked by the Unique Natural Areas
Committee of the Environmental Ad Hoc Council to prepare a brief statement to be read at the
upcoming SEQR seminar. His statement will reiterate to the local boards that the document that has
been provide to the towns on unique natural areas in the county is a tool that can be used both as a
practical tool and for protection against legal action in preparing SEQRs. The main reason behind the
request for this statement is that the County Board is trying to encourage all the Planning Boards to
use the tools that are provided. Larry explained that he is a member of this Committee. A topic of
discussion at a previous meeting was how this resource could be brought up to local planning boards
and encourage their use. Larry agreed to make the statement.
Lions ' Meeting / Lansing Forum - Brad commented that he and Jackie attended this last meeting. He
said that from face value, the intent expressed by the Lansing Forum at this meeting is that they are
looking to foster further discussion in the town. Brad also commented that all the meetings of the
Planning Board are open to the public. Larry added that nothing is hidden from the public by either
the Planning Board or the Town Board. Al felt that the Lansing Forum doesn't take into consideration
the history of Lansing and its residents. He felt that too often people that are new to the community
try to change things without considering the long-term residents. Cheryl added that perhaps people
that are new to the community feel that they are excluded from the powers that be. It is hoped that
there is some compromise for the long- and short-term residents to work together on a similar interest.
Perhaps the Lansing Forum will foster that compromise.
Town Square Grant - Cheryl reported that within two weeks she will have the design completed for
the Town Square area. As part of the initial grant, the Town will be providing a survey of the area to
aid in the design process. Another part of the grant is that there will be community input regarding
the design. Then, it is hoped that there will be another meeting where there would be public
participation in the execution of the design this spring. Cheryl felt that the execution this spring
would be possible, or perhaps just making some symbolic gesture of the Square. Larry stated that
from his meeting with Steve Colt of the Recreation Department, they are more than willing to help in
this project. Cheryl emphasized that this project will make no mention of the town hall. This is a
totally separate project. Ideally, this project should be completed and presented to the public for
comment by the end of March. It didn't seem feasible to advertise, conduct a public meeting for
feedback, and make changes to the final proposal within that timeframe. Cheryl indicated that she will
have the design completed by March 31 , and then perhaps have an onsite meeting around April 20.
Continued Review of Zoning Ordinance - The Planning Board continued its thorough review of the
articles in the proposed zoning ordinance for clarity. Once all the articles have been reviewed and
approved by the Planning Board, the proposed zoning ordinance will be submitted to the Town Board.
The Town Board will then have the option to accept the ordinance and present it to the town at a
public information meeting or hearing. Larry Tvaroha felt that it would be important to receive
feedback from the town prior to holding an official public hearing. A projected timeframe for
collecting public input would be approximately six weeks after the Planning Board submits the
ordinance to the Town Board.
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Sewer Committee - The Town Board has asked the people that sat before on the Sewer Committee to '®
reestablish the Committee and move forward with the Town Engineer of plans for a sewer district in
the central district. •
Lin Davidson made a motion to adjourn this meeting, Jackie Baker seconded. VOI L: ALL IN
FAVOR; MOHON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
This meeting was closed at 10:45 p.m.
Submitted by Michelle Eastman
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, March 25, 1996, at 7:00 p. m.
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