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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-01-22 TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday, January 22 , 1996 ; 7 : 30 p . m . PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS ('f Denotes present) Jackie Baker " Cheryl Nickel Lin Davidson Larry Sharpsteen, Chair Brad Griffin " Robert Todd Viola Miller Al White Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman George • Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer PUBLIC PRESENT Paul Butler Town Board Member Jeff Cleveland Town Board Member Rich John Town Attorney Jeannie Kirby Town Board Member Tom Neiderkorn Planning Consultant Larry Sharpsteen opened the meeting at 7 : 35 p . m. Review of January 8, 1996 , Meeting Minutes Page Three - Larry Sharpsteen corrected the name to Eileen Stout . Al White made a motion to accept the minutes as amended; Viola Miller seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY OTHER BUSINESS Lake View Subdivision - Larry Sharpsteen commented that he had visited the subdivision and been in touch with Ron Parks before this last storm . Mr. Parks (the adjoining property owner) indicated that he had contacted the developer, Tom O ' Reilly , and expressed his concern that the trench between the subdivision and his property was not deep enough to handle the runoff from the impending storm. In response to Mr . Parks' concern, Mr. O 'Reilly' s excavator dug the trench deeper which made the trench better able to handle the runoff from the storm . Larry indicated that he had spoken with Dave Herrick in regard to the trench, and both agreed that the swale should be at least that deep if not deeper. Airport Committee - Al White reported on the last meeting for the Airport Master Plan. On behalf of the Planning Board, Al White had assured the Committee that the Town of Lansing will adjust its zoning prior to the implementation of the 2000 Airport Master Plan . Currently in the 2005 Master Plan submitted by the consultant , it is planned to tear down the old terminal building and build new hangers , as well as building a car wash for use by the car rental companies . Committee members did not agree with building a car washing facility on county land for use by the car rental companies . Town Center Grant - Cheryl Nickel explained that the grant she is currently working on is to plan for a town center and getting the design down to a design element for the town square. The original concept was for development on the south side of Route 34B surrounding the existing town Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, January 22, 1996 hall, community center, and old schoolhouse. Cheryl explained that she hasn't worked on this projeyet because she can't be a Planning Board member and work on the grant at the same time. ma- ct She stated that she would like to continue as an active board member until the revisions to the zoning ordinance have been completed . The Town Board will discuss their reaction to this , and decide how they would like to proceed. Response from Town Board to Zoning Ordinance - The Town Board agreed with including the area from the top of Portland Point Road to the Route 34 intersection in the commercial district. There was discussion about the potential in the future for the road to be widened, and its impact on the current residents. It was also felt that there might be more traffic on the road with the widening, but the flow would become more efficient . Larry Sharpsteen questioned the possibility of lowering the speed limit permanently in: the area around the schools. Larry Tvaroha didn't think it was practical to have the lower speed limit other than when the schools are in session. With the Canal Master Plan arid the potential for expanded development of the Myers area, Larry Sharpsteen felt the speed limit would become an important safety factor with increased traffic. The Town Board felt that the size of the lots in the rural agricultural district should be the same as the Health Department minimum, except along the state highway where the requirement would be 150 feet of road frontage. • The question was raised as to how to present this revised zoning ordinance to the town. Viola Miller suggested presenting the plan in one large meeting to the town, with the understanding that smaller neighborhood meetings will also be conducted . Everyone agreed that this method would be '® the most beneficial and sensible. Lin Davidson expressed concern about including the intersection of Myers Road and Route 34B in the commercial district. As presented, the commercial district at that intersection includes the restaurant, the gas station, the church and the parish building as well as the telephone company substation. Lin was concerned about traffi at that intersection and safety. Lin suggested taking the church and the telephone buildirQ Pane mmercial district; Robert Todd agreed. George Totman didn't feel there would be any advantage for removing them from the commercial district . Robert suggested that those buildings be allowed to be grandfathered. Larry Sharpsteen clarified that if, for example, the gas station closes for over one year, it could only be used for residential after that . Viola stated that there are commercial businesses that don't create much traffic . The new zoning ordinance states that commercial businesses must be approved by the Planning Board and the Town Board, and that it has to fit the area. Robert was concerned about commercial businesses in rural residential areas, and the potential for concerns in the future about their uses being grandfathered. Viola Miller made a motion to make the Myers Road and Route 34B intersection as part of the commercial district and to include the church and the telephone building (as it is on the map) . Al White seconded. VOTE: FOUR IN FAVOR; THREE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED Site Plan Review - Tom Neiderkorn questioned the position of the Town Board and the Planning Board on bringing Scott Chatfield in on this project . Larry Sharpsteen questioned the Town Board . Larry Tvaroha and Jeff Cleveland both felt that there is still much to be learned about the process and viability of the Site Plan Review process. Tom will provide the Town Board members with a copy of the most recent version of the Site Plan Review process for their review . In addition, he 1® will provide a copy to Scott Chatfield to review and then present feedback to the Planning Board . Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, January 22, 1996 ® Robert was concerned that in the Business District many of the special conditions require Site Plan Review . He felt it will be a subjective decision by the Planning Board when a developer tries to build in the South Lansing area. Cheryl stated that one of the subjective ways the Planning Board will determine is how the use affects the neighborhood, the roads , visual, sound, etc . It is not architectural . The conditions will be for setbacks , allowances for development of sidewalks , curbing, etc. Robert corrected himself in that this district is not as subjective --- very little will be compared to the other districts where it is clearcut whether the use is allowed or not allowed . It was agreed that the Town Board and the Planning Board will try to meet with Scott Chatfield on Monday , February 5 , 1996, at 4 or 7 p . m. The Planning Board will be meeting on Monday, January 29 , 1996 , at 5 : 30 p . m. to begin the review process for special conditions, nonconforming uses , zoning appeals section, and enforcement sections . Tom Neiderkorn will provide the most recent version to the Planning Board by February 19 for their review . At the February 26 meeting, the Planning Board will provide feedback and comments . Then Tom will be able to provide the final draft by the middle of March . The public meeting was thought to be possible to be conducted in April . Robert Todd made a motion to adjourn this meeting; Jackie Baker seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY This meeting was closed at 9 : 15 p .m. Submitted by Michelle Eastman The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, February 12, 1996, at 7:30 p. m.