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TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD
DATE : 07 / 10 / 95
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AGENDA
6 : 30pm - Meet with Town Board to discuss Comprehensive Plan
and New Town Hall .
8 : 00pm - Deb Roma
8 : 05pm - William Bishop - Subdivision
8 : % Opm - Barth Mapes - Subdivision
8 : 35pm - 1 Lot Subdivision - Melvin Negley - Flag
8 : 45pm - Continue work on New Land Use Ordinance
TOWN OF LANSING
Planning Board
Monday, July 10, 1995; 6 :30 p .m.
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(* Denotes present)
* Jackie Baker Cheryl Nickel
* Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen, Chair
* Brad Griffin Robert Todd
* Viola Miller * Al White
* Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman
* George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
* Herb Beckwith
* Jeff Cleveland
* Jeannine Kirby
PUBLIC PRESENT
Scott Bishop 708 Lansing Station Road, Lansing, NY
William Bishop 715 Lansing Station Road, Lansing, NY
Pat Dougherty 330 Sheffield Road, Newfield, NY
Deborah Homa 48 Teeter Road, Ithaca, NY
Barth and Martha Mapes 249 Scofield Road, Freeville, NY
Melvin Negley 172 Lansingville Road, Lansing, NY
Joint Meeting with Town Board
The Town Board members met with the Planning Board to update them on the status of the
Comprehensive Plan and the plans for the new town hall.
Comprehensive Plan - Jeannine Kirby stated that the Town Board is very pleased with
Comprehensive Plan submitted by the Planning Board . Other board members agreed that it
was very thorough and will be a good working tool. She apologized for not getting back to
the Planning Board sooner, but indicated that a resolution for passing the Comprehensive
Plan will be on the next meeting's agenda .
Land Use Ordinance - Larry Sharpsteen indicated that the Planning Board is currently only 25
- 30 percent completed with its revisions to the Land Use Ordinance, which is behind the
original schedule. He didn't expect the Planning Board to be able to present an initial draft
to the Town Board much before November or December. Jeannine encouraged the Planning
Board to be comfortable with the product and take their time instead of trying to rush it to
completion. The Planning Board will present to the Town Board for review the section on
"Land Uses and Activities" to the Town Board once that is completed .
Water District #17 - Jeannine stated that Water District #17, out to Milliken Station, is moving
forward. The most difficult part of this project was getting approval through Albany. Genoa
• has approached the Town to become a user of this new water district. Genoa has several
large dairy farms that would be the major users. Lansing is having a struggle with the Town
of Ithaca over the use of Bolton Point. The City and Town of Ithaca are reluctant to give the
Town of Lansing access to the public sewer for the water.
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Monday, July 10, 1995
Sewer District - There are three individuals in the town that are interested in developing a
system privately. The Town had a meeting with the Watchtower Project, who stated that
they would be willing to delay their project for two years if they could be a part of public
sewer in the town. The town has concluded that public sewer would be better than a
constructing a package plant. Jeannine met with the representatives from the DEC regarding
sewer; they didn't have a problem with an outflow into Cayuga Lake, but they did have a
problem with outflow into Salmon Creek.
Town Center - Jeannine clarified that the Town Board is in supportof developing a town
center, despite the impression that some townspeople have. In previous discussions with
Cheryl Nickel, it was discussed that the town center should and could include the existing
town hall, town grange, and old schoolhouse. The Town Board does have a problem with
the town center plan which included converting the existing ballfields into. something new in
the town center. Many people in this community contributed both money and time to
developing those ballfields, and most would likely look unfavorably to altering their use
now. The Town Board is planning to develop a community recreation center on the northern
side of Route 34, next to the new town hall. As the town continues to grow, additional
ballfields will also be developed on the northern side of Route 34.
New Town Hall - The square footage of the new town hall is 10,000 square feet on the first
floor, and 4,000 square feet on the second floor which will be used mainly for storage of
archives and recreation equipment. All of the town business will be conducted in the new
building. The town has half of the money needed for this project already saved, and will be
financing the other half. This project will only increase taxes approximately eight cents per
$1,000. The budget for this project is $840,000. There is a proposed road or entrance to the
new town hall directly across from Woodsedge Road. As soon everything is situated in the
new town hall, a community center is planned for development. This community center will
have a nice kitchen and rooms for the community to use.
Many people probably aren't aware of the intensity of business that the town is now working
under. The new expanded space has been long needed. The town currently has 123
employees, which includes many youth during the summer. The Town's bookkeeper is also
acting as a personnel director. There is a lot of recordkeeping that is required and conducted
by the town. Every department has sat down with the architect and provide input as to the
design and use of the new building.
There will be a public hearing at 7 p.m. on Wednesday, July 26, 1995, in room 101 at Lansing
High School to discuss these plans. Larry Sharpsteen encouraged all the Planning Board
members to attend this meeting. It was also agreed that the Planning Board would pass a
resolution in support of these plans.
Red/Green Light at Rogues' Harbor - The Town of Lansing now has approval for a red / green
light at the Rogues' Harbor intersection. The Town will be contribution toward the
construction. The construction will take place in a year or so. There will be two turning
lanes at this intersection. Cargill will probably help out with the expense for these turning
lanes.
Resolution in Support of New Town Hall Plans S
"The Town of Lansing Planning Board has reviewed the plans for the new proposed town office. The
Planning Board has met with the Town Board to discuss that review. It is resolved that that location,
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Monday, July 10, 1995
design plan, and space allocations meet the real needs of the Town of Lansing with opportunity
provided for mid-term contingency use and growth of town responsibilities. "
Brad Griffin made this motion; Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; RESOLUTION
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY
ROAD CLOSINGS
Viola Miller felt it is important that the Planning Board revisit previous discussions regarding
the potential for future road closings, such as the Hillcrest and Triphammer Terrace section.
The discussion of paper roads in the area covering Asbury Road to Burdick Hill is also an
important piece that should be addressed. Lin Davidson stated that he will bring copies of
the GIS maps covering these areas to the next meeting for review and discussion.
Deborah Homa
Deborah Homa appeared again before the Planning Board to express her concerns over the
actions of the Malloy Brothers within their Cayuga Lake Highlands Development. She
distributed copies of a lengthly letter dated July 10, 1995, addressed to Larry Sharpsteen,
which detailed her concerns. Pictures identify those areas were also attached.
Larry Sharpsteen indicated that there are several items within her letter that are not within
the authority of the Planning Board to address or enforce. He tried to provide Mrs. Homa
411P with the names of appropriate agencies to contact to address some of her concerns, but she
was insistent that the Planning Board should be able to help her. For example, her concern
about erosion into Gulf Creek should be addressed to the DEC, or OSHA for the safety and
health concerns.
Upon Viola's recommendation, Larry indicated that the Planning Board would be willing to
present her concern over erosion to the DEC . The Planning Board will review the concerns
delineated in Mrs. Homa's letter dated July 10, 1995 . The Planning Board will review the
minutes from previous meetings where this development has been discussed. The Planning
Board will research whether the Code Enforcement Officer can police the concerns of erosion.
Mrs . Homa's most urgent concern was the protection of her view. She emphatically cited
Section 606 of the current Subdivision Regulations as a means for the Planning Board to try
to help protect her view. Within the Cayuga Lake Highlands Development, Mrs. Homa is
concerned about potential homes on lots 33 and 26 blocking her view.
George Totman questioned Mrs. Homa as to whether she has spoken with Ed Holberg, who
is one of the part owners of this development. Mrs . Homa still indicated that neither she nor
her husband have had any contact with the developers since the summer of 1994. For the
record, she wanted to have her concerns on file before she spoke with the developers.
George clearly explained Mr. Holberg's role in that development, and pointed out to Mrs.
Homa exactly where Mr. Holberg's office is within that development. It was suggested that
Mrs. Homa present her concerns directly to the developers. George conducted a site visit on
June 12 and met with the developers to discuss some of Mrs. Homa's concerns. The
impression given to George by the developers is one of a willingness to cooperate if
contacted with concerns. Larry Sharpsteen strongly suggested that once Mrs . Homa has met
with the developers that she get an agreement with them in writing.
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Monday, July 10, 1995
SUBDIVISION, William Bishop, Lansing Station Road, Tax Map #13-1-5.32
William Bishop appeared before the Planning Board requesting approval of a three-lot
subdivision. George Totman explained that the owners of the property are interested in
dividing the remainder of their land between their three daughters . In order to use the
remaining road frontage for access to the back two lots, flaglot approval of those two lots
will be required. The access to these flaglots is 20 feet each. In lot #3, an additional 70 feet
to the north is proposed to be added from property already owned by William Bishop. This
was done to try to make lot #3 a legal-size lot.
Larry Sharpsteen questioned whether the access to lot #3 could be located on the north side
of Scott Bishop 's existing parcel . Scott Bishop explained that both his house and the house
on the property immediately to the north are very close to the boundary line between them.
This would make an access both unfeasible and undesirable. Brad Griffin questioned the 90
degree angle turn in the access to lot #3. Scott Bishop stated that it is likely that lots #2 and
#3 will share a driveway. Viola Miller was concerned that at some point in the future, if the
lots change hands, that the shared driveway may not always be desired . William Bishop
stated that their thinking of sharing a driveway was to try to minimize the cost. Each lot
will own 20 feet of road frontage to access their property.
The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration.
Al White made a motion to approve this sketch plan as proposed and to schedule a public
hearing; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY
A public hearing was scheduled for Monday, August 14, 1995, at 8 p. m.
SUBDIVISION, Barth and Martha Mapes, Scofield Road, Tax Map #38.-1-41.1
Barth and Martha Mapes appeared before the Planning Board requesting approval of a one-
lot subdivision of their property on Scofield Road. George Totman explained that the Mapes'
have been to the Planning Board before requesting a boundary change on this property
which made the remainder of this land more useable.
Mr. Mapes stated that at some point in the future they may sell off more lots, but at this
point they are only going to sell this one, two-acre lot. Mrs. Mapes stated that they would
like this to be a nice development in the future. They have considered implementing deed
restrictions for these lots as follows: (1 ) minimum of 1920 square footage for the house not
counting the garage; (2) no trailers or mobile homes; (3) no side-by-sides; (4) not to run a
business on the property; and (5) no old /junk cars left around. The Mapes were informed
that the deed restrictions are only valid for 25 years .
Larry Sharpsteen questioned the remaining 143 feet of road frontage on the piece farthest to
the north. George Totman stated that because of the hedgerow and the nature of that lot; if
anyone bought that lot, they would have to build farther back anyway. The lot would have
to be considered a special purpose lot or a flaglot. The road frontage does not negatively
impact this parcel.
The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration.
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Monday, July 10, 1995
Viola Miller made a motion to approve the subdivision as proposed and to waive the public
hearing; Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
SUBDIVISION, Melvin Negley, Lansingville Road, Tax Map #22-1-31
Melvin Negley appeared before the Planning Board requesting approval of a one-lot
subdivision. Mr. Negley's son intends to move a home onto the rear lot. There is already in
place a 40-foot sluce pipe for the driveway, as well as the driveway to the rear lot. An
upholstery business was previously located on the rear lot. On the north side of the
property, there is an existing fence that runs the length of the property line between Mr.
Negley' s property and the neighbors' property.
The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration.
Al White made a motion to approve the flaglot as presented and to waive the public hearing;
Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
LAND USE ORDINANCE
The Planning Board completed an item by item review of Schedule I, Residential Low
Density. Clarification was made as to the difference between low density and moderate
density. At the next meeting the Planning Board will begin review of Section R2.
Brad Griffin made a motion to adjourn the meeting; Al White seconded . VOTE: ALL IN
FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
This meeting was adjourned at 10: 10 p .m.
Submitted by Michelle Eastman
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, July 24, 1995, at 7:30 p. m.