HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995-04-24 TOWN OF LANSING
Planning Board
Monday, April 24, 1995; 7:00 p.m.
0 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(* Denotes present)
* Jackie Baker * Cheryl Nickel
* Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen, Chair
* Brad Griffin * Robert Todd
* Viola Miller * Al White
Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman
* George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
PUBLIC PRESENT
Tom Neiderkorn
Training Session
Larry Sharpsteen read a letter announcing a training session in Houghton, New York. The
training requirement for board members is at least once a year. The training could be
conducted in the county or region.
Cornell/Ithaca's Campus Cooling System Study in Progress
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Larry Sharpsteen discussed the April 1995 newsletter regarding the cooling system. He -
stated that the water that would be returned back to the lake would lead to a buildup of
algae and plant matter in the lake. Al White questioned if there had been any studies
conducted that determine the thermal climate of the lake. It was thought that John Homa
would know more about this issue. Sharpsteen stated that the proposed plan is to draw
water from 200 feet deep at 40 degrees, run it through the heat exchanger, and discharge it at
55 degrees at the surface. An environmental impact statement has not been conducted yet.
It is estimated that the total cost of this project will be $45 - 50 million.
Village of Lansing Newsletter
Viola Miller shared a copy of the Village of Lansing newsletter with the Town Planning
Board.
Sewage Ad Hoc Committee
The Sewage Ad Hoc Committee (Kevin Kaufman, Jeff Clark, and Larry Sharpsteen) will be
meeting with Jeannine Kirby, Larry Tvaroha, and Dave Herrick on Wednesday, April 26, to
share information. The negotiations for sewage treatment are at the point where discharge
will be allowed into . Cayuga Lake but not into Salmon Creek or any of the other creeks.
Land Use Ordinances
0Tom Neiderkorn distributed a new version of Schedule I. He described the two new districts
' that were created: rural highway, which is along both sides of Route 34 and 3413; and
commercial general business. There are a total of nine districts in the town. Tonight's
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discussion will focus on the business /town center district and the general commercial
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district.
Larry Sharpsteen felt that a special permit meant that the request would go before the Town
Board. Tom Neiderkorn indicated that the Town Board would only become involved in an
appeal's process. Tom didn't feel that the Zoning Board of Appeals should have any appeal
review authority of any the Planning . Board's issues. The Zoning Board of Appeals gives
variances . George added that when the Planning Board makes a decision, the only appeal
process is an Article 78. George didn't think that the Town Board could overrule the
Planning Board. Viola stated that the Planning Board authorizes special permits . Tom stated
that a special permit almost always requires a public hearing. Special conditions can be
handled administratively. The conditions will be in writing. These conditions will not need
to go before the Planning Board; they are handled by the Code Enforcement Officer.
Larry Sharpsteen wanted to clarify the difference between special conditions and special
permits. A special permit that was set by the Planning Board would require a public
hearing. With special conditions, the conditions are set forth and a public hearing is not
required. If one of those conditions is site plan review, than it is site plan review but no
public hearing is required. Viola commented that some of the conditions can be written so
that if the town permits the use, there can be a special permit without a public hearing if it is
up to the discretion of the Planning Board.
Larry Sharpsteen suggested permitting mobile homes in the general business district. Viola
commented that these districts will be expensive areas to put mobile homes in. Larry agreed
with not allowing mobile homes in the town center district. Cheryl felt that if mobile homes
were allowed in the general business district that restrictions could be established for
landscaping. Larry responded that those restrictions should then apply to other family
dwellings within that district. Lin Davidson stated that with the eventual opportunity for
public water and sewer, there will be more possibilities for the mobile homes to be set up on
smaller lots. Viola commented that a mobile home is permitted but under the same
restrictions as a dwelling that goes in. She also added that it has always been the intention
of the Planning Board to require that the mobile homes only be placed on land that was
owned, not rented. Larry felt that the cost of the land in some of these districts would
preclude people from putting mobile homes on them anyway. Larry agreed to setting special
conditions on mobile homes in the general business district. The conditions will. be, for
example: skirting; and something more substantial than a tube, steel, and plank stairway
system. George Totman stated that mobile homes are governed under State Building Codes
as to whether or not they have proper stairs, etc. Tom suggested allowing mobile homes as
permitted in the general business district. Larry added that mobile home parks would not be
permitted though.
Larry stated that he has a problem with allowing all uses in the town center district but with
special conditions. He has received comments from several people who oppose the
possibility that everything will be allowed, instead of clearly indicating what will and will
not be permitted. George stated that under special conditions, it should be stated in the
preface to the zoning ordinance, that once those special conditions have been met, the use
will be allowed. Larry stated that if the use is permitted then there aren't any conditions that
have to be met. George stated that if it is permitted, the rules in the ordinance still have to
be followed. Tom stated that if the use is permitted, there aren' t any conditions that have to
be followed expect for yard size, etc.
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® George Totman was concerned about the new ordinance become too cumbersome and
confusing. Viola agreed with George. She felt it would be most useful if the uses were
allowed with special conditions and that those conditions are clearly defined. This will make
the ordinance much clearer and easier to understand and use.
Hunting preserve - It was agreed to not allow a hunting preserve in the town center district,
but allow a hunting preserve in the general business district with conditions. Viola and
Jackie disagreed with making this a permitted use. Larry wanted to clarify that hunting
would still be allowed, just that a hunting preserve would not be permitted. He would
prefer to have special conditions in the general business areas. Viola felt that a rod and gun
club should be allowed under special permit. Larry then stated that a rod and gun club
should not be permitted in the general business district, but a commercial use, such as an
indoor firing range, could be allowed under special conditions. Lin felt that one of the
special conditions could be that it be soundproof. Tom clarified that from these discussions,
both hunting preserve and rod and gun club will not be permitted in the town center or
general business districts.
Home Occupations - Tom indicated that by definition, a home occupation should be
permitted with special conditions. If it doesn't meet those conditions, it isn' t a home
occupation. Larry disagreed in terms of home occupations in the rural agricultural district.
He thought it was agreed that special conditions would be avoided in that district. Tom then
questioned what the difference would be between a business and a home occupation in the
rural agricultural district without special conditions. Larry responded that there would be
It very little difference. Lin felt it makes a difference in the rural highway district in terms of
setbacks, parking, visual, and traffic safety. In the business district, it was agreed that a
home occupation could have a business in one part and an apartment in the other part where
the owner could live or rent the space out.
Viola expressed concern about allowing a lumber yard in the town center. Larry suggested
permitting lumber yards with a special condition on square footage of the business. Viola
was also concerned that many of the uses in the town center district were marked as special
conditions. She felt that some of those uses should be under special permits and appear
before the Planning Board for review. Larry stated that once all the districts have been
preliminarily classified, then the Planning Board will begin to take a second look at those
classifications in more detail.
Brad Griffin made a motion to adjourn; Viola Miller seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR;
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
This meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p. m.
Submitted by Michelle Eastman
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, May 8, 1995, at 7:30 p. m.