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TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD
DATE : 03 / 13 / 95
TIME : " 7 : 30pm "
PLACE : Lansing Town Hall
AGENDA
7 : 30pm - Open meeting , approve February minutes -
General Business etc . -
8 : 00pm - Public hearing - 3 lot Subdivision -
Tax Parcel # 12 . - 1 - 22 , Paul Beckwith ,
Ludlow Road .
8 : 15pm - Public hearing - Lakeview Subdivision -
Tax Parcel # 40 . - 3 - 14 . 2 , Hillcrest & Grandview -
Triphammer Terrace .
8 : 45pm - 2 Lot Subdivision - James Semp - Dates Road -
Tax Parcel # 9 . - 1 - 1 . 14
9 : 00pm - Tom Niederkorn - update on comprehensive &
land use plans .
TOWN OF LANSING
Planning Board
Monday, March 13, 1995; 7:30 p.m.
411 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(* Denotes present)
* Jackie Baker * Cheryl Nickel
* Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen, Chair
* Brad Griffin * Robert Todd
Viola Miller * Al White
Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman
* George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
PUBLIC PRESENT
Paul Beckwith 1943 Cuddington Road
Mary Decker 67 Talmadge Road
Charles Fiezli Resource Associates
Bill Gettig 19 Grandview Drive
Tom and Judy Holloway 167 Algerine Road
Daniel Konowalow 25 Franklyn Drive
Tom LiVigne 33 Grandview Drive
Vince Mehringer 11 Pheasant Way
Tom O'Reilly 1040 East Shore Drive
Ron Preston 45 Grandview Drive
0 Marcy Rosenkrantz 25 Franklyn Drive
Vaughn Selby 105 Ludlow Road
Donald and Jane Sheldon 139 Ludlow Road
Jeff Zerilli 42 Dutchmill Road
Larry Sharpsteen, Chair, called the meeting to order at 7:30 p. m.
Review of Minutes from February 13, 1995
Page Six - Brad Griffin clarified that "North Lansing Road" is the same as Route 34. Larry
Sharpsteen clarified that "the guy from Horseheads" is a representative from the State
Department of Environmental Conservation Office in Horseheads. Lin Davidson made a
motion to accept the minutes as amended; Brad Griffin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR;
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Review of Minutes from February 27, 1995
Al White made a motion to accept the minutes as presented; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE:
ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
New York State Council on the Arts (NYSCA) Grant
Cheryl Nickel stated that she applied for and was granted a New York State Council on the
Arts grant for moving the Town Center process to the next stage. The grant was funded to
work on creating an identifiable town center for Lansing. It will focus around the three
existing town buildings, by creating a "town square or town green" which will be a central
park, common, or square. The proposal is that it be a community design process involving a
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town design meeting. She hopes that that will also carry into a town build. She feels that
there are enough people in the town who have the skills to help build the town center.
Perhaps some would volunteer or donate materials.
Judy Holloway indicated that the Town of Lansing Historical Association will be meeting this
week to discuss how to proceed with the feasibility study on the old schoolhouse. They will
also be discussing the possibility of doing some plantings, starting with a grouping around
the three first buildings.
Cheryl indicated that she will check with the NYSCA to see if there will be a conflict of
interest in her working on this grant and participating as a Planning Board member.
Ultimately, the Town Board will have the final decision as to whether or not there is a
conflict of interest, perceived or actual. Robert Todd commented that if Cheryl were to work
on this grant, she would need to request another extended leave of absence, and he-didn't
feel that this board could continue operate optimumly with her non-voting seat for much
longer. He felt that there are too many important decisions happening right now., ..Cheryl
indicated that she has attended many of the meetings, but as a non-voting member. She
would like to officially start on the grant in approximately two months, once these important
decisions have gotten farther along. She also thought that bringing in a new member at this
time would be counterproductive, both for the board and the new member.
ZONING / LAND USE ORDINANCE REVISIONS
Tom Neiderkorn indicated that he would like to have these revisions to the zoning
ordinances completed by the beginning of May. He asked the Board to look at two districts
to see if the boundaries are approximately right: . Agricultural/ Rural District and the Town
Center District. Tom is working from the existing ordinances and revising them, rather than
developing entirely new ordinances. The board began discussing the boundaries and the
allowable uses within those districts.
Tom Neiderkorn stated that he will continue to work on the zoning ordinances, and turn
them over to the Planning Board to review and comment as he completes them. George
Totriman asked that those board members that don't have a copy of the current zoning
ordinances let him know and he will see that they receive a copy. For the March 27th
meeting, the board members were asked to complete the allowable uses worksheet.
Comprehensive Plan - Larry Sharpsteen indicated that the Town Board is interested in taking
action on the Comprehensive Plan as soon as possible. It was agreed that if anyone had any
more comments to make regarding the Plan, that they turn them in to Tom Neiderkorn
within the next week. The Planning Board will then make their final decision on the
Comprehensive Plan at the March 27th meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING, Paul Beckwith, Ludlow Road, Tax Map #12.1-22
Larry Sharpsteen read the public notice, opened the public hearing at 8:00 p.m., and invited
any questions from the public present. A comment was made that the tax map number will
change for these new parcels when the new assessments are conducted. What has been
considered about water supply to the lots ? Mr. Beckwith responded that he is proposing to
subdivide three lots off and sell them. Each will be approximately three acres in size. He
does not intend to develop these lots; he is just going to sell them. The building will be the
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responsibility of the new owners. Mr. Selby was also concerned about the water supply in
that neighborhood.
Mr. Beckwith indicated that he will be putting deed restrictions on these parcels, specifying
that no mobile homesare allowed. How long do deed restrictions last ? George Totman
responded that deed restrictions last for 25 years, and only then if all the surrounding
neighbors agree to any revisions to those restrictions can they be changed at that time. If the
neighbors agree before 25 years have passed, then the restrictions can be changed at that
time. Who enforces the deed restrictions ? George Totman responded that the Town cannot
enforce the deed restrictions; it is up to the neighbors to try to enforce them.
Al White made a motion to close the public hearing (8: 13 p.m.); Robert Todd seconded.
VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Al White made a motion to approve the subdivision as proposed; Lin Davidson seconded.
VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
PUBLIC HEARING, Tom O'Reilly, Lakeview Subdivision, Tax Map #40.-3-14.2
(Prior to the public hearing) Lin Davidson commented that he has a copy of the soil maps
for that area, and it does appear that some of the slopes are greater than 15 % . Commenting
on the letter received from Ron Parks, Larry Sharpsteen indicated that a copy of that letter
should be included in the minutes for this meeting. He also stated that the Planning Board
did not make any such requests (per Mr. Parks' letter); it was an agreement between the
developers and the neighbor (Mr. Parks) .
Larry Sharpsteen read the public notice, opened the public hearing at 8: 15 p.m., and invited
any questions from the public. Tom O'Reilly displayed a map of the proposed subdivision.
Tom LaVigne indicated that he is a property owner along the new proposed section of
Grandview Drive. He requested a driveway access onto that new road. Mr. LaVigne owns
approximately 25 acres on the northeast boundary to this subdivision, and would like the
road access for his potential future subdivision. Larry Sharpsteen recommended that this
type of negotiation be discussed between the landowner and the developer outside this
public hearing.
Tom O'Reilly stated that most of the lots are approximately one + acres each. The water
supply to these lots is municipal.
Is any requirement for open space within the subdivision regulations ? Larry Sharpsteen responded
that there is current no requirement within the subdivision regulations for open space.
Are there going to be deed restrictions on these lots ? Tom O'Reilly indicated that the deed
restrictions are going to be a strict as they can get them without losing the integrity of the
development they intend to build. The price range for the homes in this development are
going to be between $215,000 and $250,000. There will be a Design Committee established:
Torn O'Reilly, Eric Barden, and Mark Barden. This Committee will develop six to seven
designs that are going to set forth the integrity of the development as they see it. Anything
different than that will be looked at, but modifications or changes will have to be made if the
Committee doesn't feel that it meets the design element, quality, or the price structure. The
homes will be earth tones with cedar siding. The height of the homes will also be restricted
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so they don't stick out so far; they will be between 25 - 30 feet at the highest point. The
square footage for the homes will be between 1950 - 2400.
This is a good plan, but it is an ambitious plan. Is there a way to incorporate the deed restrictions
into the approval process so that the developer can't arbitrarily change their plans in the future ?
George Totman explained that if this development is approved and some of . the lots are sold
and developed, the developer can not then change the plan without permission from the
people who are already within that development.
There was discussion about protecting the views of the property owners within the development. Has
consideration been made for the surrounding existing property owners, in particular the view for the
Porters ? Tom O'Reilly stated that the home that would be built on the lot directly in front of
Mr. Porter's lot will be very close to the proposed road, and with the change in elevation, the
new home will not interfere with Mr. Porter's view.
As there were not further questions or comments, Robert Todd made a motion to %close the
public hearing (8:48 p.m.); Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY
Al White made a motion to accept as final plat that part designated as Phase I, and
preliminary plat approval for Phases II and III; with the portion of the road as described
being completed in Phase I, and completion of the drainage swale along the northern border,
and the drainage to Triphammer Road. Robert Todd seconded.
Comments - In response to Mr. Parks' letter, Tom O'Reilly felt that the comment on the swale
along the "entire" northern border was taken out of context. He felt it was discussed that the
digging of the swale could be moved up 100 - 150 feet from where it was marked on the
proposed map in order to help prevent any future runoff problems for Mr. Parks. Larry
Sharpsteen agreed that the spirit of the discussion at the last meeting was that the swale
would be continued up into the woods as far as was required, which was probably only
going to be 150 - 200 feet. If it turns out to need to be continued farther than that, than the
swale will be continued. Mr. O'Reilly agreed to that interpretation. George Totman added
that the Town Engineer also has the authority to require the developer to construct the swale
as far as he sees that it is needed. Mr. O'Reilly stated that the way Mr. Parks' letter is
written, it implies that the swale will be the first thing constructed. Mr. O'Reilly indicated
that he certainly does intend to construct the swale in the first phase, but that it may not be
the very first thing he does. In regards to Mr. Parks' third comment, Mr. O'Reilly felt that it
wasn't Mr. Parks' intention to ask that the lots on the northern border have easements in
order to maintain the swale. Larry Sharpsteen felt that the deed restrictions as presented,
and the discussion at the last meeting, addressed the issue of maintenance of the swale
adequately.
VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
SUBDIVISION, Tames Semp, Dates and Fenner Roads, Tax Map #9-1-1.14
George Totman explained that Mr. Semp owns the property on the corner of Dates and
Fenner Roads, and would like to subdivide the lot into two parcels and sell the front parcel.
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George indicated that this proposal meets all subdivision regulations; it has the acreage and
road frontage on both parcels. Robert Todd stated that there is a open ditch from the pond
out to Fenner Road, but that he didn't see it as a problem.
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® The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration.
As the Planning Board has set a precedent in reviewing and voting on a ' proposal without
the applicant present, they decided to move ahead with , this request. As this proposal meets
all the subdivision rules and regulations for the Town of Lansing, Al White made a motion
to accept the subdivision as proposed and to waive the public hearing; Lin Davidson
seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Teff Zerilli, Specialty Testing
George Totman stated that Jeff Zerilli has made a request to have some time on the Planning
Board's agenda for the April meeting to discuss a proposed addition in the Warren Road
Industrial Park. Tonight he would just like to give the Planning Board a quick overview of
the proposed expansion. Mr. Zerilli indicated that Specialty Testing would like to add
approximately 2800 square feet to the existing 3600 square foot facility. The business needs
currently justify that expansion. He will be prepared to give a formal proposal of the plans
at the April 10 meeting of this Planning Board. This expansion is expected to create
approximately four more jobs. Neither the parking space or the septic system will need to be
increased. The Industrial Park has a committee that will also be reviewing this proposed
expansion.
Al White made a motion to adjourn the meeting; Robert Todd seconded. VOTE: ALL IN
FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
This meeting was adjourned at 10: 15 p. m.
Submitted by Michelle Eastman
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, March 27, 1995, at 7:30 p.m .