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January 04 , 1995
TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING
DATE : 01 / 09 / 95
TIME : " 7 : 00 PM"
PLACE : Lansing Town Hall Board Room
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING WITH TOWN BOARD AT " 8 : 15 "
AGENDA
7 : 00 PM Approve December Minutes , General Business
7 : 45 PM Boundry Change - 42 . - 1 - 13 . / 42 . - 1 - 16 . 2
2742 N . Triphammer Road
8 : oo PM Public Hearing B . Simkin , 30 Stonehaven Dr . ,
3 Lot Sub - Division 39 . - 1 - 20 . 12
8 : 15 PM Joint Meeting with Town Board
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TOWN OF LANSING
Planning Board
Monday, January 9, 1995; 7: 00 p .m.
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' PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(* Denotes present)
* Jackie Baker Cheryl Nickel
* Lin Davidson Larry Sharpsteen, Chairperson
* Brad Griffin Robert Todd
* Viola Miller Al White
* Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman
* George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
PUBLIC PRESENT
Jeff Cleveland Lansing, NY
Al and BJ Grant 12 Belvedere Drive, Ithaca, NY
Rich John Ithaca, NY
Jeannie Kirby Lansing, NY
Tom Neiderkorn Ithaca, NY
Boris Simkin 407 Lake Shore Drive, #B35, Ithaca, NY
Review of Minutes from December 12, 1994
Page Two, Third Sentence - Lin Davidson revised that sentence to read, "Lin agreed but was
`�4 \ • concerned . . ." Page Two, Fourth Sentence - Lin revised the sentence to read, "Lin also felt it
was important that there be a single spokesperson for the town to answer questions." Viola
Miller made a motion to accept the minutes as corrected; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE:
ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Town Information Meeting - Cheryl Nickel reviewed a tentative format for this town
meeting to be held on January 19, 1995 . The tentative format is proposed as follows:
introduction by Larry Sharpsteen; presentation by Tom Neiderkorn; 30 - 45 minutes of
questions and concerns from the audience; and then informal discussion with Planning Board
members and committee chairpersons.
The Community Dispute Resolution Center will be facilitating this meeting.
Jackie Baker felt it would be important to get as many of the committee members to attend
this meeting as possible. It was felt that these committee members will add a positive factor
to this project. Posters and postcards announcing this meeting were prepared and
distributed to the board by Cheryl Nickel. George Totman will contact the Ithaca Journal to
publish an announcement of the public information meeting.
Larry Sharpsteen suggested the option of setting up a table at the front of the room, perhaps
off to the side, where the Planning Board members could be seated. He felt this would give
the Planning Board members a better opportunity to see where the comments are coming
7 ' prom in the audience, and to more clearly represent the Planning Board to the public. George
" 'Totman agreed that this would be important so the audience could put faces with names of
. the board members.
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Viola Miller was concerned that the Planning Board or Tom Neiderkorn not attempt to
immediatelyanswer questions; • h ' +i
q that the public present. She suggested that the person asking < < .
the question be told that their opinions and concerns will be taken into consideration by the Yi '
Planning Board. Cheryl Nickel stated that if the, questions could be answered easily, than : .-41,16;
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they should be answered. Perhaps even referring the person to the appropriate committee to, �,
pose their question.
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Larry Sharpsteen questioned Larry Tvaroha as to whether or not the Town Board will be
holding a public hearing on the Comprehensive Plan. Larry Tvaroha indicated that he will +f -
need to check on the legal requirements for the approval process as far as the number of : ti «; ;
public hearings required.
BOUNDARY CHANGE, William Siminovsky, North Triphammer Road, Tax Map #42.-143x.
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George Totman explained that Dr. Siminovsky currently owns both parcels, one of which is a
non-conforming lot. Dr. Siminovsky is proposing to readjust the boundary line between 1,,,a0
them so that they are equal in size and road frontage; both lots will then comply with the .
ordinance as it is written.
Al White made a motion to acknowledge this boundary change as presented, to waive ;;
review of the SEQR, and to waive the public hearing; Jackie Baker seconded. VOTE: ALL IN 'to? .
FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Elder Collages - Two pages of literature on Housing Options for Seniors Today (HOST) were.; ate , ..
distributed for review. It was recommended that Tom Neiderkorn take the information into �*-;,
consideration when drafting the zoning ordinances. George Totman explained that the elder
cottages would be serviced by the existing septic system on the property. Whether or not the. v, .
elder cottage would be allowed or not would depend upon the Health Department's
perception of the identified septic system. z
Tompkins County Planning Board - Viola Miller reported that the Tompkins County
Planning Board is attempting to revise their structure in order to more closely meet the needs
of the surrounding municipalities. The make up of the members would be a wider variety of
people from the surrounding towns and villages.
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PUBLIC HEARING, Boris Simkin, Stonehaven Drive, Tax Map #39.-1-20-12
Larry Sharpsteen read the public notice, opened the public hearing, and invited any
questions from the public. Al Grant, an adjoining landowner, indicated that his major
concern for this subdivision is the sewer drainage. He stated that there are several lots in
that neighborhood that are not buildable due to problems with sewer drainage. Mr. Grant * ' f._;t1.
o wiis several of those unbuildable lots. The land to the north of this proposed subdivision is 'A
very. wet. Larry Sharpsteen responded that the Planning Board cannot answer questions
_about disposal of waste; the Health Department can answer those questions . George Totman
suggested to Mr. Grant that the Health Department now has a Grievance Board to which
these concerns could be raised.
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BJGrant, an adjoining landowner, questioned how these three proposed lots could have "
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a small amount of road frontage in comparison to other lots in the neighborhood. Cheryl
Nickeiresponded that it depends entirely on the Health Department's approval of the septic
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=fts3rstegity as. to whether or not a house could be built there.; According to the subdivision .
regulations ' of the Town of Lansing, if there is- public water available to the lot(s), the lot size
can be smaller. When the Stonehaven development was originally built, public •water was
not available; therefore, the lots were required to be larger. : Mrs: Grant indicated that there
are deed `restrictions on their properties that will not allow them to builduntil ` public sewer . . • : . . ";
is available. George Totman clarified that neither the Town of Lansing or the Health :.
rn epartment put those deed restrictions on; the Grants purchase these properties with that 1
restriction already in the deeds.
Al 'White made a motion to close the public hearing at 8: 18 p.m:; Lin Davidson seconded.
VOTE! ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Discussion - Viola Miller and Al White were concerned about the size of the three lots being
smaller than the surrounding parcels, as well as the drainage problem. They both would
preterit this were a two-lot subdivision. George commented that this three-lot subdivision
does •meet the subdivision regulations. Lin Davidson pointed out that the Health
Department may not issue septic permits for these three small parcels anyway, in which case
Mr. Simkin may come back to the Planning Board with a revised proposal.
Lin Davidson made a motion to approve this three-lot subdivision as a final plat; Jackie
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Baker seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
JOINT MEETING WITH THE TOWN BOARD - This joint meeting was held so that the
Tdicrzi :B'oa'rd and the Planning Board could share ideas relating to the draft of the
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Comprehensive Plan. The Plan was reviewed page by page for changes as follows:
Page Two, Third Paragraph, Second Sentence - While these facilities are located in the Village
and Town of Lansing, their impact on the Town is significant.
Page ' Two, Fourth Paragraph, Last Sentence - Villieneyer—pessible; Many of these
recommendations have been incorporated in this respect.
Page Four, Fourth Paragraph, Last Sentence - In the 40 years since 1950, students have been
counted as residents of the community where which they attend-school originated.
Page Four, Footnote - The population figures for the town included the Village.
Page Nine, First Paragraph, Last Sentence - While some of this information is not erectly
germane to land use in the Town, it does help to describe the community and identify
potential problems and needs.
Page .131, First Goal - A reasoned approach to growth that responds positively to opportunities .
for development but also recognizes the distinctive character of different parts of the.
Town and ; - - • - - - • - - - - . _ - - . • - - - . . ,
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acknowledges their value.
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Page 13, Second Goal - Practices designed by foe individual • ` `' ` " `
owners to benefit farm operations, preserve farmland and conserve natural resources. .'s: ' ' . •
Page 15, Sewer and Water Systems, First Goal - Public water and sewer services available in
those areas of the Town where the Comprehensive Plan indicates future development f:
and growth or where there is a serious current need in order to protect the ' r
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environment.
Industrial Development, Last Sentence - Potential sites will be examined and identified
`• I • in the Comprehensive Plan, including land at the-northwest-end contiguous of the . ;, .4 = • ,
County Airport.
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Page _ 16, Industrial Det,elopp400eCRiu ;Gval Local conditions (physical, social,, gouer4a p,;R,r11,
: that ate Conc i'w to;retau 'in`giPxistplgibusinesses and attractingnew ones. , s ! , 4^.rf .trr'
Page - 'z$; To ;n Celt,ter,='First. Senlence -T'^- • ^ihelic• that The existence of a physipal;and • •
• visual c.ommunit . cente +will be: important to the future identity and character,;ofct ,i, k. _ .
Lan.9. ng*cpiiirriin,(y.' ' .fr;ra , , 'M: ,-. • tear,
Page 18, Tozyn ; Center,{ :ThirOoa ;= •The rrlevelopment of the town center in a way to maximizer . .
' : : access. for . pedestrian traffic allowing users to park once and access goods and .. , .,, •- ': . • tee :•
services.
Page 1P 'Objective C '= ' To encourage alt rnatives to traditional residential development, ...,,., r ,; 1, ;
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• . through ' measu es`, el ',asurea such as clustering and planned development which{ ;, •tii,
will ' conserve'-1andi resources and give incentives for creative housing design. . ,, ::41.•!a,
Page 19, Objective D• :=.'To protect environmentally sensitive areas such as steep slopes;4state .;*),
designated wetlands; strearn banks, ete:, lfrom the negative impacts of extenswe ; n: Ss'r€.;
residential development. c ;, - . 4 , 63 t
Page 19, Natural, Historic and Cultural Resources, Third Sentence - The Town intends'ao.; suppitiAsvt
encourage conservation measures .#e th : - ' . • • • - - to promote aestrong , ,
sense of stewardship responsibility among public and private land owners anc%to ret
preserve significant historic and cultural resources. - ''• •;,;•► 0
Page 20, Third Goal - . Broad community awareness of historic, environmental, social arid / . : : %n'.
economic interdependency and the potential negative consequences of unlintite4k ;f;i'3r,a' 1-
unplamled grbvith: and change. - . , ., : ,,:$ ..:),.
Page 20, Objective F - '. - - - ... . -: - - . ' . • is r
reasenable-h� evicen priva • - • - - : : . - - . ' - - - - �� y_ s
concerns. • i;; .;,•;;;_b_starii,
Page 21 , Objective B - To consider setting aside suitable land, or funds in-lieu of land; fore • ;3v. ; :
recreation purposes as residential subdivision activity occurs. , ,
Page 21 , Objective D - To increase public access to Cayuga Lake for picnicking, fishing, ;•; : A•1;;
hunting, swimming and boating when opportunities arise. -r-•r: - >
Page 21 , Objective E - To establish consider a capital improvements budget for park and 1- :4 •.
recreation facilities and actively pursue consider state, federal and private funding . •`.
• sources. , 1t '' :•1: : ' •
Page 21 , Implementation, First Sentence - The Comprehensive Plan is intended to be a guide forty
ongoing public and private action in the Town of Lansing; its broad concepts will. be r,
used as a resource in public decision-making. : .;_V y
Page 21A, Objective C - To support, and, when possible, assist in the preparation of grant
applications for funds that can be used by voluntary groups to further . their efforts.
Page 24, Assumption 5 - The County Airport will be continue operation at its present - locatio `,t' ;n
indefinitely and mayneed to extend the runway again at some time in the ,future: .:, n :
Page 25, First Sentence - . .. have been determined by s•i•* five criteria related to the existinwo-2 ,t a ;'<<
expet.red .use of land. : { flit
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Page 28, Lo4 •uensity -Kesidential-One, Second. Sentence - In some locations fanning continues •itc,4+'(y
• be active. but most of the larger farm parcels are slowly being subdivided and are _:a ,'cr
are iii transition to housing :of various' types.' ,if, t . } ': ::;• t
Page 29 , Low Density Residential1 -Two, Last Sentence - When feasible, clustering will help . to. ,it . ; i.1
preserve a sense of Openness as development takes place and minimize negatiy ; ;A i4; _a;6 /1►
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Page 29, Medium Density Residential, Last. Sentence A small recreation area or Tet-Lem oul� :be-,6,
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Pdg" iCenter, Second Sentence - This should ,be .a unique :area in that `• it could contain a
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frill: of activities and structures including--government, commerce, personal service,
`> 3`religious, cereal cultural, historic residential and.:recreational land :uses • v
!Page •3 1.Xown Center, Sixth Sentence - Planning concerns relate. to achieving an a compatible
and economically viable mix of land uses, providing the infrastructure needed_:to
5Asa1 port this type of development, promoting easy pedestrian 'circulatioriand
• •t•t. . •establishing suitable development standards and sittplan, review procedures to'`
; coordinate individual parcels and a variety of proposals. .
tage:32, First Sentence - Steep slopes, streams, gorges, waterfalls, detsse .. ,
'` woods, large New York State designated wetlands, exceptional.views and ,the f
. . ; la_K:eshore would be covered by this category. ,r
<Page 32,'Hamlet Center, First Sentence - This land use category describes small clusters of
:mta " '2 oncentrated, typically mixed-use development in Ludlowville, Myers, , North Lansing,
South Lansing, and Lansingville.
4Pitge.:3S -Third Paragraph - In developing the plan and its implementing tools for the Town of ,
s ` Lensing, five six elements of a traffic and circulation system are considered to be
1p+eramount at this time. •
age-33; Item 3 - Adequate ef-street safe parking in areas of concentrated development.
/PtiOr34, 1em 6 - Encourage adequate signage and adequate setbacks for visibility.
"Page 34 Secondary Connectors, Second Sentence - While traffic volumes and truck traffic are
generally less that than on Major Connectors, rapid movement with relatively
iF 1 . 4 uninterrupted flow is still desirable.
'Ragi 35,; First Paragraph, Last Sentence - Asbury . Road, Farrell Road, Buck Road east of Route
5: : Van Ostrand Road, Locke Road, Lansingville Road, North Lansing School Road,
® �: ; r4wi'c$ :and Lake Ridge Road north of Lake Ridge are classified as Secondary Connectors.
%Lage' 35 rNeighborhood Connectors, Second Paragraph, . Second Sentence - There are a number of;
Neighborhood Connectors indicated on Map 3 including, among others; Cherry Road,
' eq I! ; • Waterwagon, Triphammer Terrace, Armstrong, Conlon Road, Salmon Creek, Jerry :i
• Smith, Davis Road, and Storm Roads .
:t;Page 36, Upgrading of Existing Roads, Third Sentence - It is recommended that this north-south
• `-, link be upgraded to a Major Connector.
'4'Psrge 36, Upgrading of Existing Roads, Sixth Sentence - If the northwest runway is to be
"'4& " extended, Warren Road will again have to be realigned, or, alternatively, depressed to
cp.-7:. go under the flight—path runway at this point. , "
11P12ge 36, Upgrading of Existing Roads, Last Sentence - If future runway extension is a reasonable
eventuality, the traffic and land use patterns needed to make this possible should be
reflected in the long-range plan for this area.
''Pf# 111-em' 1 , First Sentence . - Recentimprovements at the County Airport are seen as
_It (ad - tteeeting the needs of this County for many years to come.. . ,.- - r, • •
'`�"t"�."�zgg 39) Ii em 3 - Conlon Road/ Route 34B / Route 34.
tJ #zg "3S;` Off-Street Parking, Second Sentence - Brief mention is made in this Traffic . and ,. , " :.
:iTransportation section of the Comprehensive Plan, however, so that adequate, well -13t;\,
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edesigned and attractive e€f- parking spaces can be provided as development occurs.
.1�4 i-(417 First Paragraph, Last Sentence - These considerations should. be part of the S 4 ,
_s i;', r-ir3wrew process for nonresidential development. . -
4 e '43;6 Tree Planting Program, Second Paragraph, Last Sentence - Landscaping requirements of
+ +• +: ; ;tile• subdivision and site plan review process would be coordinated with the objectives I.
>. a Yb: €inc, • plans of the street tree program.
`eari.4 1-First Paragraph, Last Sentence - The opportunity to establish trail extension should be
e-0 a =..°onsideration of subdivision and-site-plan reviews in this area. `
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• Page 42,;Second Paragraph, Lx t Sen race 7 As development northof the Village>p t ie €
future, sukdivtsion .d-sf txeyiews in the Town : should::consideg fea it lity
of ,establshu►g ;trails #hat could uterconnectWith the Village system.
Page 45, Struteg Plans, Thi' Sentence.. - In some uses, to;.implement the Countkprehosive.Plat
will require Theic1,0velopuiprof strategic plans for specific componarlta at _bave be .: ,t
:' addressed. onlyge ►era=lly in this report.
This. meeting was -adjourned ;at 10: 10 p. m.
Submitted by Michelle; Eastman
The next meeting s‘fcheduled is the "Toam Information . Meeting " on Thursday, January 9, 1995;
from, 7 - 9 p.m.
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