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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-09-26 ;w;' # 1 TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board • Monday, September 26, 1994; 7:30 p.m. ® PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (* Denotes present) * : Jackie Baker Cheryl Nickel * Lin Davidson Larry Sharpsteen, Chairperson Brad Griffin * Robert Todd * Viola Miller * Al White Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman , F * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer PUBLIC PRESENT William. Albern, P.E. Ithaca, New York Leo Mahool Ithaca, New York GENERAL BUSINESS Nova Lane Subdivision - Larry Sharpsteen stated that he has contacted the County Planning Board to see what the Town's legal requirements are in regards to the Nova Lane subdivision. With no other agreement between the parties, the only option the Planning Board would then be able to take would be to take an aggressive stance with the State asking that one of the three driveways be allowed to handle a high volume of traffic. The County ® Planning Board is conducting some research on behalf of the Town Planning Board on this issue. Robert Todd was concerned about the conflict of interest on Cheryl Nickel's part in the voting on this subdivision, since she is an adjacent property owner. Robert indicated that he has already spoken with Cheryl about his concern. Larry felt that Cheryl would abstain from voting, as has any other board member with a conflict of interest. Al felt that since Cheryl is a member of this Planning Board, she has every right to express her opinion on proposals, but that she should abstain from voting. Cheryl indicated that she would abstain from voting. Leo Mahool asked to be updated on this proposal. Larry Sharpsteen stated that Mr. Albern has approached the State DOT and received approval for threedriveways onto East Shore Drive, but that the Planning Board doesn't feel that would be the best access point. Viola Miller added that the Planning Board is concerned about having more driveways on that curve, and would prefer to consolidate a roadway with one of the other adjacent subdivisions. This would make a better flow of traffic and transportation. Larry informed Mr. Mahool that Mr. Leathers was also approached with the concept of aligning a roadway as dose as possible to center with Water Wagon Road. Robert stated that Mr. Mahool and Cheryl Nickel were gathered together tonight to try to determine if there would be another better alternative to the long deadend road on Nova Lane as currently proposed. Viola pointed out that because these subdivisions (East Lake, Nova Lane, and Lakewatch) ® came in separately and in a piecemeal fashion, the Planning Board overlooked the provision of connecting north/south service roads between them. She pointed out that when the Leathers subdivision was brought before the Planning Board, they were required to develop a road near the lake that would provide for a potential connecting north /south road; but that Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, September 26, 1994 no such requirement was made of the Mahool subdivision when that was presented. Larry felt that from that map it appeared that a connecting road would be possible through Nova NIP Lane into Lakewatch from East Lake. Mr. Albern indicated that the contours of Nova Lane near the lake would not permit a connecting north/south road to Lakewatch, but it would be possible to East Lake. Cheryl Nickel stated that previously it had been suggested that a north/south road come in front of the East Lake Tennis Center. Cheryl has determined that there is room behind the Tennis Center to put in an access road and come out onto East. Shore Drive directly across from Water Wagon Road. Cheryl indicated that the details of this would need to be worked out with her and Mr. Leathers, but that it might be feasible. Mr. Albeit distributed three new sketches; sketch #3 was developed with input from the State DOT. Mr. Mahool indicated that he doesn't like sketch #3. He felt that by eliminating the cul-de-sac and developing a road down two sides of some of his property, it would devalue those parcels. Mr. Mahool indicated that he presented sketch #3 to his partners and none of them liked it. He suggested that Mr. Albern pursue the connecting road with the East Lake subdivision. Cheryl stated that she is willing to discuss the possibility of the connecting road. Mr. Albern asked the Board's preference. Lin Davidson stated that the Planning Board has just received the newest proposal and hasn't had a chance to discuss it amongst themselves. Mr. Albern tried to explain that sketch #3 would actually be taking a "sliver" of Mr. Mahool's land, but would be giving back the cul-de-sac. He indicated that LW#9 and LW#10 would be serviced by the new Nova Lane road instead. Mr. Mahool stated that the people buying those lots would want to buy them in the Lakewatch subdivision, not the Nova Lane subdivision. Mr. Albern responded that in five years, none of those subdivisions will still have any separate distinction; they will all be joined together. Cheryl suggested the possibility of Nova Lane purchasing those two lots. Mr. Albern stated that he doesn't want to buy those lots. Mr. Mahool stated that the electric and water is already running down the cul- de-sac. Viola asked Mr. Mahool if he had any ideas as to how to enhance the town in that particular area as far as transportation problems in the next 50 years. Mr. Mahool indicated that he only saw the new sketch two hours earlier and is not prepared to make any recommendations. He felt that this problem is something that should have been resolved even before the Lakewatch subdivision was presented. Viola asked Mr. Mahool if he ever though that the Lane property would be developed. Mr. Mahool responded that when his development was being planned, they were working with the information that the Lane property would not be developed. He felt that the Town must have been working under that same information, otherwise they would have planned for another access other than Smugglers' Path. Viola was concerned about all the cul-de-sacs in the Lakewatch subdivision and questioned Mr. Mahool's concern for transportation and traffic flow in that area. Mr. Mahool stated that he is concerned about improving transportation and traffic flow, but not at his expense. Mr. Albert began discussing specifics with Cheryl regarding the possibility of a connecting road behind the Tennis Center. Larry suggested that these negotiations take place in another forum between Mr. Albern and Mr. Leathers. Jackie Baker commented that the Planning1110 Board appreciates the fact that they are concerned about transportation and traffic flow in the Town of Lansing, and their efforts. iP • Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, September 26, 1994 Viola Miller made a motion that the Planning Board would look favorably upon the concept of a connecting road behind the East Lake Tennis Center as a solution if it can be successfully negotiated between the parties and the State; Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (Cheryl Nickel abstained) Mr. Albern will be back before the Planning Board on October 10, 1994. New Town Hall - Larry Sharpsteen questioned if anyone had any information on the new town hall. Cheryl stated that Jeannine Kirby called her last week and asked for all the information gathered from the studies. Cheryl, Lin Davidson, and Tom Neiderkorn all met with Jeannine and discussed the placement of a town hall, rather than what the town hall building would be. Larry is concerned about the disposal of waste from the town hall. Based on current costs for a system like what might be put in, the allotment for the entire building could be used up just on sewage costs. Cheryl suggested that the Planning Board send a statement to the Town Board endorsing their idea of moving ahead with the new town hall because it is needed; but that the Planning Board hopes that they can move ahead with some kind of idea on a public sewage system that would take care of the new town hall as well as other future buildings in the area. Larry stated that the ad hoc committee is preparing a report for the Town Board on this subject. Jehovah's Witnesses and Cargill Salt may be working on a joint town sewage project. Robert Todd didn't feel that he had enough information about the town's ideas for locating the new town hall and its sewage system to say that he endorses it. Viola said that she just wants the Town Board to make sure that they review everything before they move ahead. Larry stated that through his involvement with the Sewage Committee, he can say that almost all the residential sewage systems in the "town center" area are at or near failure. He stated that the estimated cost of a new residential sewage system is around $10,000 - $12,000. As of January, the State is requiring treatment of secondary waste, which can add another $8,000 onto the cost of a system. Larry began discussing a town center system that would service 200,000 gallons per day. The cost of hook up would be approximately $5,000, with an annual cost between $1,500 - $2,000. The location of the treatment plant is still to be determined. Possibilities discussed have been on lands currently owned by Cargill Salt and Cayuga Crushed Stone. Cheryl displayed and discussed the maps that were developed under the "Lansing 2010" project, which planned three locations for a new town hall. Robert Todd questioned where the town is getting the money for the new town hall. Al thought that the town would probably secure a bond for the building. Cheryl stated that the current town hall has been condemned because it is not completely accessible. George Totman stated that the Town Board has been considering a new town hall for almost three years now, and has been putting money in a contingent account for the new building. He also clarified that the building was inspected by State auditors and didn't completely pass inspection, but that it also doesn't meet access requirements under the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. The town's public buildings will need to be completely accessible by January 1, or at least have documentation in order as to the plans to make the buildings accessible with a time schedule. George stated that the Town Board has asked him and Rich John to review and report on all the town's building as they will need to meet the requirements under the ADA. Larry suggested that each board member take a look at the three location options for the new town hall, and by the next meeting have chosen one to endorse and provide reasons. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, September 26, 1994 Planning Institute - Viola reminded the board members of the upcoming Planning Institute on October 23 - 26, 1994, in Nevelle, New York. Larry encouraged everyone to attend if they were able, and reminded them that their expenses would be covered by the town. George offered a brochure to anyone who didn't have one. Presentation of Recognition Award to Linda Hirvonen - Lin Davidson read and presented the recognition award to Linda Hirvonen. Everyone greeted and thanked her. This meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m. Submitted by Michelle Eastman The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, October 10, 1994.