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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-09-12 3 14^;x; 4; I 1 i I " { ;..-Vd I 1 i _ _ To Seneca Falls � To Auburn f'' d-, ° r r 4 ;l kr x p4 11 r ; � a� x � k % TOWN o LANSING L. t`j i.,YC A., .fre la �:*: 1 ter^ w 4y `F' :' to r"; I s „s(inl pry�A°41 '' 5 " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " it sTla ,• N�X tif- v4. r;' � $ 't Via, �77r'.$ t • V - `"' .41/0 ', i &44 I' fir, H 1 Town of Lansing ` N x, , ,.. ORDINANCE DEPT. \ 11 ' a s o d . guar Box 186 , #, , Lansing, New York 14882 \ i I \ ��, 4! To Ithaca ti 1 - TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD k' t: r Date : September 12 , 1994 Time : 7 : 30 PM Place : Lansing Town Hall Board Room , IN AGENDA ij 1 7 : 30 PM Open Meeting - General Business 4IP �� Approve August Minutestt 8 : 00 PM Subdivision - Berdette Lewis Z5" - l — /Z2_ �° a . 8 : 15 PM Subdivision - R . Thaler y 1 ` Z _ Whispering Pines . ' I 8 : 30 PM Subdivision - William Alberr. m � ` i 7 ., Nova Lane 8 : 45 PM Subdivision - Carl & Helen Rhoads ,j7 /1 -- 2 - Z 7_ z / . Z 1 Lot ,_ i i ( Z, to 41. stta 1 Aj 1/41:16 / e, f . ,amu , _ t • i i Ili . , . t - Tic Ovi• TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday, September 12, 1994; 7:30 p.m. • PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (* Denotes present) * Jackie Baker Cheryl Nickel * Lin Davidson Larry Sharpsteen, Chairperson ". * Brad Griffin Robert Todd * Viola Miller Al White * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer PUBLIC PRESENT William Albern, P.E. Ithaca Monica Carey Groton Burdette Lewis 356 Buck Road, Lansing • Melanie Merrill 376 Buck Road, Lansing Darrell Rhoads 115 Algerine Road, Lansing . Helen and Carl Rhoads 54 East Shore Drive, Lansing • Review of Minutes from August 8, 1994 Page Four, Nedrow Subdivision. Brad Griffin pointed out that the names should be change to John and William Nedrow, instead of Nedrow Brothers. Lin Davidson made a motion to accept the minutes as corrected; Brad Griffin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Review of Minutes from August 22, 1994 Robert Todd stated that Lawrence Howser wasn't in attendance; Viola Miller pointed out that Tom Niederkorn was in attendance at this meeting. Viola then corrected the last sentence in • the Howser Subdivision to read "George Totman will inform Mr. Howser.. .". Draft of Policy • Goals. . . Robert Todd corrected the last sentence in that first paragraph to read "There will be facilitators . .. ". Brad Griffin made a motion to accept the minutes as corrected; Lin Davidson .. seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY . -E SUBDIVISION, Burdette Lewis, Buck Road, Tax Map #28-1-17.2 George Totman explained that Mr. Lewis is proposing to subdivide his parcel into two lots; retaining the house on the front parcel, and selling the barn with the back parcel. In j response to Viola's question, Mr. Lewis informed her that he will be selling approximately four acres. Viola was concerned about there being access to the remaining lands of Mr. Lewis to the north of this subdivision. George pointed out that there is an 80-foot access from Buck Road to the land to the back. 1 •a The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. • Viola Miller made a motion to accept the subdivision as presented; Lin Davidson seconded. r v VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY i ! Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, September 12, 1994 SUBDIVISION, William Albern, Nova Lane, Tax Map #36-1-17 George Totman reminded the board members that the last time this subdivision was discussed, it was recommended that Mr. Albern and George approach the State as to their consideration for an access road to the Nova Lane subdivision from East Shore Drive. The response from the State Department of Transportation iri Syracuse was that they would approve three separate driveways on the road frontage, but they would not approve an access road onto East Shore Drive. Cheryl Nickel questioned the possibility of having the "hammerhead" turnaround include the three eastern lots, instead of them each having separate driveways onto East Shore Drive. Mr. Albern responded that this suggestion had not yet been discussed, but that he would consider it. Robert Todd emphasized that one of this board's goals is to reduce curbcuts onto busy roads, and Cheryl's suggestion embodies that goal. Robert asked if Mr. Albern was in agreement with the Planning Board as to eliminating the curbcuts. Mr. Albern indicated that he had no problem with just moving the "hammerhead" up further to the east to include the other three lots. Cheryl also questioned whether or not Mr. Mahool would sell some land to Mr. Albern for a road. Mr. Albern responded that he approached Mr. Mahool and Mr. Leathers with the suggestion of rearranging some of their lot lines, butnot with the discussion of purchasing any of the parcels. Mr. Albern felt that trying to tie into the Mahool subdivision wouldn't be practical. Larry Tvaroha questioned whether or not Nova Lane could tie into either of Mahool's cul-de-sacs. Cheryl again commented that it would seem to be most feasible to approach Mr. Mahool about purchasing one of the lots and tie into one of the cul-de-sacs. 411 George commented that from a discussion he has had with Mr. Mahool in the past, Mr. Mahool was opposed to trying to connect the subdivisions because part of the appeal of his lots is that they are located on deadend roads. By connecting the subdivisions, that appeal is lost. Larry Tvaroha was concerned as to whether the State would approve a temporary construction road for this subdivision until the road is completed. Mr. Albern indicated that he has already received approval for the temporary construction road. He stated that the temporary construction road will be used until approximately 25 percent of the lots are developed. Robert questioned whether this proposal has been discussed with the Town Engineer. Mr. Albern stated that he has briefly talked with the Town Engineer. Mr. Albern indicated that he has had preliminary discussions with the Town Engineer and with the Town Highway Superintendent. Viola questioned if there are any pathways within this plan. Mr. Albern indicated that to his knowledge, there are no pathways between the three subdivisions. Viola commented to the Planning Board that they take a look at this developing area, and image what it will be like in 20 years and how it will have changed. She would like to see the Planning Board begin to plan for this type of future development, such as sidewalks and pathways. Cheryl stated that the roads in these developments are 60 feet to the right-of-way with a 10 foot easement on each side of the road. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, September 12, 1994 e , Cheryl again commented that she would like to hear a response as to whether Mr. Mahool would sell one of his lots. Mr. Albeit responded that Mr. Mahool probably would not refuse to sell one of his lots, but he would object to the restructuring of his subdivision. Lin Davidson made a motion to approve the concept of two cul-de-sacs with no access onto East Shore Drive except for construction vehicles during construction of the road and until 25 percent of the lots are developed, with the option left open for an agreement with either Mr. Mahool or Mr. Leathers. Mr. Albeit felt that he has already received definitive notice from °t both Mr. Mahool and Mr. Leathers that they would not be willing to rearrange their , subdivisions. George clarified that if Mr. Albert were able to purchase one of Mr. Mahool's lots, that would entail reconfiguring the Mahool subdivision since it would be changing a :' t deadend road into a through road. Cheryl commented that in this case it would be a hardship case. George was asked, and agreed to speak to Mr. Mahool regarding the possibility of purchasing one of his lots to connect with Nova Lane. It was then suggested to bring Mr. Mahool and Mr. Leathers to the next board meeting (September 26) to discuss the possibility of connecting to Nova Lane. Viola even suggested including Cayuga Highlands in this discussion since there are a number of separate subdivisions in that area, and none of them are really connected. SUBDIVISION, Carl and Helen Rhoads, East Shore Circle, Tax Map #37-1-7-22 and 37-1-7- 21.2 • George Totman explained that the Rhoads own both #22 and #21 .2. They would like to split #22 into two lots and extend each of the boundary lines into Lot C so that they are deeper. The road frontage does not change on East Shore Circle for access to Lot C. Lot A will be approximately 1 - 1 1 /2 acres and Lot B from 1 1 /2 - 2 acres. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. gi ' Lin Davidson made a motion toaccept the subdivision as presented; Jackie Baker seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY k • SUBDIVISION, Michael and Mary Reese, French. Hill Road, Tax Map #4-1-23 :1.. George Totman explain • o that the owners are moving out of the state and proposing to split their lot into two parcels to sell. There is no house; it is an empty lot. E: Robert Todd didn't want the Planning Board to get in the habit of approving subdivisions without the property owners or their representative(s) present in case there are questions. Cheryl stated that if there were questions, then the review would be put on hold until someone appeared before the Planning Board. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. Lin Davidson made a motion to approve the subdivision as presented; Viola Miller seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY r • 41 . 44 Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, September 12, 1994 OTHER BUSINESS 11 Change in Ordinance - George Totman distributed information on a public hearing conducted by the Town Board on changing the ordinance for set back of shrubs on corner lots in zoned areas of the town. He stated that the ordinance was created many years ago when the roads were only 50 feet. Since the road width was previously increased to 60 feet, the Town Board felt the need to update the ordinance to reflect the change. Before the Town Board passes the new ordinance, they would like to get feedback from the Planning Board. Subdivision Application - Brad Griffin recommended that applicants pay more attention to filling in the details of the subdivision applications. The other board members agreed. Presentation to Linda Hirvonen - It was agreed that Linda would be invited to come to the next Planning Board meeting, and would at that time be presented with the framed recognition. Brad Griffin made a motion to adjourn this meeting; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY This meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m. Submitted by Michelle Eastman The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, September 26, 1994.