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Town of Lansing Box 186 \ } : ziA 4 \ ig ' kw`j Lansing, New York 14882 � � ' To Ithaca TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD Date : May 9 , 1994 Time : 7 : 30 PM Place : Lansing Town Hall Board Room ® AGENDA - 7 : 30 PM Open Meeting - General Business Approve April Minutes 8 : 00 PM Herbert Ley - Boundry Change 8 : 15 PM Jeff Utillo - Sub - Division 12 - 1 - 23 . 21 8 : 30 PM Zae Stone Petricola - Boundry Change , One Lot Sub - Division , Land Locked Parcel 23 - 1 - 3 . 3 23 - 1 - 4 9 : 00 PM Any other Business to come before the Board II TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday, May 9, 1994 411 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS ( * Denotes Present) * Jackie Baker * Cheryl Nickel * Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen * Brad Griffin Robert Todd * Viola Miller * Al White • Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer PUBLIC PRESENT David Ackley P. O. Box 269, Lansing Robert Keefe 4 Dandyview Heights, Lansing Geraldine McDonough 26 Dandyview Heights, Lansing Joe and Zae Stone Petricola 4053 Garrett Road, Ithaca Dennis and Helen Osika 25 Dandyview Heights, Lansing Anita Sullivan 591 Lansing Station Road, Lansing ® Mary Lou Szabol 16 Dandyview Heights, Lansing Larry Sharpsteen called the meeting to order at 7:30 p .m. GENERAL BUSINESS Lansing Historical Society - Larry Sharpsteen read aloud a letter of support to be attached to the grant application being submitted by the Lansing Historical Society. He also distributed a copy of the grant application and asked that everyone take an opportunity to review it and comment as to the reference letter. Viola Miller made a motion to submit the letter to the Lansing Historical Society in support of their grant application, based on the draft they presented for review; Al White seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Viola would like to acknowledge Dee Barber for all her efforts in seeking outside funding for projects and her outstanding enthusiasm . Lansing 2010 Committee Members- Larry commented that Brad and Jackie have put together a thank you letter to send to all the committee members . Larry read the letter aloud for comments by the board members . The board members made a few minor changes and agreed that it should be distributed to the committee members . New York State Arts Council - Larry read a letter from Cheryl indicating that she is in the process of writing the final reports for the New York State Arts Council and the New York Planning Federation . She would like to design and produce these final reports so that they can be useful communications for other purposes as well, such as communicating with interested businesses, background material for other Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, May 9, 1994 town grant possibilities, etc. She is requesting an additional $400 to pay for • photographic materials, quality copying, and some professional writing and layout assistance. Larry suggested that Lin look at the budget and see where this request would be appropriately directed. Al White made a motion that if the funds available, to approve the additional funds to Cheryl; Lin Davidson seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ONE-LOT SUBDIVISION, Al White, thimitinn Road Al White stated that the two attorney's involved in his one-lot subdivision have asked that he submit his proposal to the Planning Board for their review and approval . George Totman added that since Al is a member of the Planning Board, the attorney' s feel it would be best to have the subdivision reviewed . George added that based on the current subdivision regulations, this lot is not required to appear before the Planning Board because it has more than 300 feet of road frontage and is over 3 acres . Viola Miller made a motion to recognize that this proposed subdivision has come before the, Planning Board, but that the Planning Board does not need to take any action on it; Brad Griffin seconded . VOTE: MOTION CARRIED WITH ONE ABSTENTION (Al White) Review of Minutes from April 11, 1994 Page Three, Paragraph that begins George clarified (line 4) . . . questioned Mr . Johnson on the future ( not futures. ) of the development. End of the Same Paragraph - George added that the Village will not (allow) Mr . Johnson. . . Jackie Baker made a motion to accept the minutes as corrected; Brad Griffin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY GENERAL BUSINESS Sewage - Larry Sharpsteen stated that after the recent seminar, he and a few other people had an informal discussion on the sewage problems of the Town of Lansing. Kevin Kauffman made a presentation to the Town Board . Larry indicated that this is an exciting time because there are some businesses in that area with some pressing needs, which the Town may be able to tie into. He will keep the board up to date. Lansing 2010 - Larry indicated that after a recent discussion with Cheryl, she informed him that Tom Neiderkorn will be asking the Planning Board to make some specific recommendations to the Town Board as to the next steps to take on this project. Larry stated that the Planning Board will make some generalized recommendations based on the results of the project; however, it would then be up to the Town Board to give specific directions to the Planning Board . He stated that he would like to get some support from the Town Board before the Planning Board members should spend any more of their time on this project. Viola Miller stated that she would take exception to that since the Planning Board is directed by the Town Board to research and develop plans for the future or the town. She didn' t Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, May 9, 1994 . P ® feel that the Town Board should be making any recommendations to the Planning Board before first receiving some recommendations from the Planning Board . ' ' BOUNDARY CHANGE/ONE-LOT SUBDIVISION, Zae Stone Petricola, Lansing Station Road, Tax Map #23-1-3.3 George Totman stated that this 4 + acre parcel is landlocked and was willed to Ms . Petricola who is now in interested in selling it, but in order to do so she must have access to a public highway. There is a potential buyer for this parcel once the access issue has been resolved . There is also a potential buyer for tax map #23- 1 -4 (10 + acres) who has indicated that he is willing to give a deeded right-of-way access to the buyer of the landlocked parcel #23-1 -3 . 3. This potential buyer is only interested in purchasing approximately 6 acres; the balance of that acreage would be retained by Ms. Petricola. Larry questioned why the access would not be able to follow the ravine to the back parcel; Maryanne Young, an attorney with Harris Beach who is ry Y+ representing the Petricola' s, stated that the old house is in the way and the other side of the ravine is too steep. The proposed access road is 63 feet wide. Ms . Young indicated that she had spoken with the town attorney, upon the recommendation of George, where they discussed the possibility of having a shared access driveway with a deeded right-of-way. Brad questioned whether there is a new state statute that requires there be fee simple access . Ms. Young cited Town Law 280 and indicated ® that it does not require the access to be fee simple. , R George stated that the Planning Board in the recent past has approved three ,, different proposals with long, shared driveways . The Planning Board has approved ..,,< these with the provision that it will be approved between the Town Attorney and the Town Board. Ms . Young stated that she had spoken with Dick Thayler, who ti indicated that as long as they met Town Law Section 280a which requires access for { . emergency vehicles, there shouldn' t be a problem. Larry ' s concern was which one of the property owners would retain title to the right-of-way. Ms . Young indicated that the title would remain with the property owner. This would not be a flaglot, it he would be a landlocked parcel with access via a shared driveway. Ms . Young indicated that there will also be an insert in the deed for some type of maintenances arrangement of the driveway by the three lots . q ,4 fi Viola raised the point that at some point in the future, each of the three lots could ° come before the Planning Board requesting approval of subdivisions . Ms . Young a 7479 stated that she had mentioned to Mr. Thayler about the possibility of adding the : restriction on all three of the deeds that they can never ask the town to dedicate that road . Larry asked that for the protection of the town, and that the Planning Board .. receive copies of all the restrictions to add to the file. George added that Mr. Thayler4• . , is very particular about receiving all that type of information, who in turn passes a copy on to the Planning Board ' s file. '• ,. , M . ® Brad questioned whether this parcel could be considered as a flaglot. George • ' responded that in order to be a flaglot, the owner of the parcel would have to own • ' property all the way to the road which is not an option on this request. _• ' ay , , Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, May 9, 1994 • The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. • Al White made a motion to accept this proposed subdivision and boundary change subject to it being consistent with state statute pertaining to the equal access; Lin Davidson seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY FOUR-LOT SUBDIVISION,Jeff Uotila , Algerine Road , Tax Map # 12-1-23 .21 A representative from T. G . Miller' s indicated that he was appearing before the Planning Board to resubmit a sketch plan that was submitted over a year ago . The original sketch plan was for five lots; the new sketch plan is for four lots. After some input by the Health Department and some PERC tests, it was determined to be more desirable to increase the road frontage of lot # 1 to accommodate a 250-foot diameter circle which would allow Mr . Uotila to install sand filter systems . Mr. Uotila has eliminated one of the lots on the beach. The access point from Algerine Road to the three lots on the beach has been reduced to 18 .3 feet because of the increase of lot # 1 to allow the 250-foot diameter circle for the septic. Lot # 1 also has rights to ingress and egress on the road to get to the beachfront property (parcel A) . Viola commented that she would like to see a map that dearly identifies all the other subdivisions in that areas, so that she could see how they all fit together. Lin stated that this would be available with the GIS maps, but the County wants $15,000 from the Town of Lansing to join the service. Cheryl questioned the possibility of the access road ever being conveyed to the town. • Mr. Uotila responded that it is a possibility, and that there will be a contingency included that the beachfront property can never be conveyed by themselves; they • must go with the lot that they were intended to go with. Larry mentioned a previous discussion by the Planning Board about the desirability of the town being able to tie roads together across the three developments (Uotila, Duenkelsbuehler, and Sovocool), and have an open North / South access all the way across . Mr. Uotila 's representative stated that they had taken a look at that possibility and that to put an access in gets more difficult the closer it gets to the lake. He stated that he is aware that Mr. Sovocool has left a corridor on his property, and Mr. Duenkelsbuehler's property just to the east would provide a more feasible access connection point where the ravine is not so steep . The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. Lin Davidson made a motion to accept the subdivision as presented subject to being consistent with state statutes as pertaining to the access road, and to schedule a public hearing; Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY A public hearing was scheduled for Monday, June 13 , 1994, at 8: 00 p .m. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 5 Monday, May 9, 1994 Public Comments on Dandyview Heights Dennis Osika appeared before the Planning Board representing his neighbors in the Dandyview Heights area . He explained that all the neighbors had gotten together and wrote a letter to the Planning Board opposing the 60-foot access road that Mr. Harris had requested off of Dandyview Heights; the neighbors would like to know the response of the Planning Board to that letter. Larry questioned George as to whether the Planning Board received this letter before they took action on Mr. Harris' request. George stated that the Board had already approved the boundary change before the letter was submitted . It was explained that the most logical continuation of this development would be straight down Beckwith Lane, but through some oversight when Mr. Harris sold that end lot there was no right-of-way retained to allow passage. Mr. Osika explained that Mr. Harris is currently in the process of negotiating with the owner of that lot to sell him another lot, so that the development could continue down Beckwith Lane. Mr. Harris received approval of the right-of-way on Dandyview Heights just as a backup incase he couldn' t make a deal with the other property owner. Larry stated that although Mr. Harris ' proposal wasn' t presented that way, this suggestion wouldn' t be a problem. Mr . Harris currently owns lot #2 on Dandyview Heights, and couldn ' t sell that lot until he made a way to maintain access to the remaining property to the rear . 411 Viola recalled that Mr. Harris had originally intended the development to continue down Beckwith Lane, but it was prohibited by NYSEG; therefore, a lot was created and sold. Larry also recalled that there was some problem with allowing the development in that direction, but it was not created by Mr. Harris . Larry asked George to research that information. George indicated that to his knowledge the problems with the utility have not been resolved for any future development of that piece. Even if Mr. Harris were to obtain that parcel again, he would need to seek approval from NYSEG to begin development under the powerlines . Just to bring these people up- to-date, Larry informed them that there is also a possibility of expansion of the Dandyview Heights Road to the west if that property is ever developed. Larry stated that if the other problems were overcome, the Planning Board would not have any objection to readjusting the boundaries to allow the road to continue down Beckwith Lane. Larry stated that there is very little that the Planning Board can do at this point, and suggested that these people get in contact with Mr. Harris. One of the neighbors stated that she has spoken with Mr. Harris who offered her 60 feet of his property, which would essentially shift everyone 's property 60 feet to the west. Larry stated that the Planning Board would be willing to consider to any solutions that the neighbors, Mr. Harris, and NYSEG come up with. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 6 Monday, May 9, 1994 FURTHER BUSINESS 1110 Viola raised the point that there needs to be more consideration of natural drainage when reviewing subdivisions and developments . Larry agreed and felt that it should be included in the comprehensive plan that specific attention should be paid to natural drainage and potential drainage problems of any subdivision not limiting itself to a particular area. Official Town Map - George displayed and described the recent changes made to this map made by Paul Schenckl . Lin Davidson pointed out that payment to Paul for this work was previously authorized . Cheryl Nickel 's Position - Larry stated that Cheryl has been working on the, Lansing 2010 project for almost year, and now that it is nearing completion, the Planning Board will need to pass a resolution to the Town Board requesting that she be reactivated. Al White made a motion asking the Town Board to reinstate Cheryl Nickel from her leave of absence as a full member again; Lin Davidson seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Al White made a motion to adjourn this meeting; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. This , meeting was adjourned at 10: 07 p .m. Submitted by Michelle Eastman • The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, May 23 , 1994, at 7:30 p .m .