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Lansing, New York 14882 'r � � ' � , ' ' To Ithaca TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD Date : March 14 , 1994 Time : 7 : 30 PM Place : Lansing Town Hall Board Room AGENDA eb 7 : 30 PM Open Meeting - General Business Approve Minutes for February 8 : 00 PM Roger Sovocool - a ) Update on Sub - Division off Milliken Station Road 12 - 1 - 15 . 3 b ) Update on Sub - Division on Jay Orear Property 42 - 1 - 2 . 2 8 : 30 PM Any other business to come before the Board it TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday, March 14, 1994; 7:30 p.m. 40 BOARD MEMBERS * Denotes Present * Jackie Baker * Cheryl Nickel * Lin Davidson, Treasurer * Larry Sharpsteen, Chairperson * Brad Griffin * Robert Todd, Vice Chairperson * Viola Miller * Al White * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT Roger Sovocool F Review of Minutes from February 14. 1994 Page Two, Correction of Page Two, End of Discussion - This was previously corrected to read "Brad remembers Robert making a recommendation that taking on the actual administration of wetlands regulations is a part of board duties." Robert Todd corrected this again by ® stating is should read ". ..is not part of board duties." Page Three, Second Paragraph, Last Sentence - Lin Davidson corrected that Larry Tvaroha (not Paul) was going to look into including private roads on the official town map. Robert Todd made a motion to accept the minutes as amended; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Review DISummary from February 28. 1994 Viola Miller asked that Tom Neiderkorn be listed as a consultant and that his name should appear under the listing of board members. Page Two, Third Paragraph - Lin stated that #1 should read "the development of density and the town center should help preserve open space and agriculture land." Page Two, Fourth Paragraph, Third Sentence - Brad Griffin stated the sentence should read ". . .there would be erosion and soil protection." Page Three, Top Paragraph - Not a correction, but Cheryl asked for a copy of the information regarding conservation districts that Larry Sharpsteen spoke of. Larry clarified that this was a map with the districts identified. Page Three, Third Paragraph, Second Sentence - Larry Tvaroha clarified that the name should read Kevin Kaufman. Page Four, Second Paragraph, First Sentence - Lin stated that sentence should read ". . .the Town Center Committee looked into a means of governance of the town center and how a flexible zoning system would work" Al White made a motion to accept the summary as amended; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY GENERAL $USINESS SRequest from Parks and Recreation Committee - Larry Sharpsteen stated that he has had a request from the Parks and Recreation Committee, many of whom will be attending a seminar on recreational trails. They would like to know if the Planning Board and/or the Town Board had some funds that would defray their registration and/ or travel costs. These c Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, March 14, 1994 people are going to the seminar regardless, but would like to know if they could get some 110 financial assistance. The registration fee is $25 per person. Viola stated that neither of the boards should set a precedent such as this at this time. She felt there are too many committees that might come in with the same type of request. Robert Todd agreed. Larry Tvaroha stated that the Town Board would consider this completely under the jurisdiction of the Planning Board and any financial assistance would come out of the Planning Board 's budget, whether itwas for the registration fee or the travel costs. Cheryl added that this group is working under a separate subcommittee under the Lansing 2010 project, and not directly for the project. Larry Tvaroha added that if the Planning Board had asked for volunteers to attend this training, then it might be looked upon differently. There was a general consensus of the board that at this time it would not be in the best interest'bf the Planning Board to set such a precedent and state for the record that if this seminar had been something specifically requested by the Town Board and the Planning Board, the request for financial assistance may have been considered differently. Lansing United Methodist Church - Jackie Baker stated that the Lansing United Methodist Church set Bill Crukshank . out to do :an analysis of the Town and Village of Lansing in terms of the church and which direction it should be heading. Jackie began discussing the outcome of the analysis to which she felt there is some very pertinent information for the Planning Board. It tells the direction that the population is going. This is taken from the 1990 census and is fairly up to date. Jackie left one copy with George to have copies made for dissemination to the board members who were interested. Review of Items for Discussion at Toint Board Meeting Cheryl indicated that Harold VanEs was pulling together the synopsis of all the committee reports for presentation to the Town Board, but doesn't have it completed yet. Discussion followed as to the order of discussion at the meeting. Larry Sharpsteen addressed Larry Tvaroha in stating that one of the things that the Planning Board will be looking for from the Town Board at the joint meeting is some sense of how far the;Town Board wants the Planning Board and the Lansing 2010 project to go in the development of the comprehensive plan. Larry Tvaroha stated that that could be discussed after the presentation and after the Town Board has had a chance to review all the documentation and reports. Larry Sharpsteen would like to know how rapidly the Town Board will want the Planning Board to move on preparing a land-use regulation document. Cheryl stated that Tom Neiderkorn will be attending the joint meeting and is preparing a map summarizing all the recommendations and is also preparing an analysis of where there might be gaps. Concepts and Ideas for New Town Center and Town Hall - Lin Davidson stated there is a public meeting tentatively planned for April 21 to discuss and gather ideas about the concept of the new town hall and town square idea. This meeting will be geared toward identify sites. Larry Tvaroha asked that the public be asked what they really want in a town hall. Do they want to have an expanded community building, an office building, or an ambulance service run out of there? Once that has been clarified, then determine the location. Update on Subdivision off .Milliken Station Road, Roger Sovocool, Tax Map #12-1-15.3 41/ Roger Sovocool appeared before the Planning Board to provide an update on the status of his proposed subdivision off of Milliken Station Road. Roger stated that he has had the property ,! ,0 Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, March 14, 1994 111 surveyed, and has been negotiating with NYSEG about purchasing the strip along Milliken Station Road, which runs the entire length of the road from east to west of the property he is trying to purchase. This property is on the south side of Milliken Station Road and is owned by Cornell University. He will be limiting development to four lots on a private road. The prime consideration is whether NYSEG will purchase the strip along Milliken Station Road as a buffer zone. The only glitch that may come up is that if NYSEG ever abandoned the power plant, he would like the property to remain forever wild or revert back to residential property. NYSEG wants the right, if they ever give up the power plant, that they could sell it for whatever they want. Roger commented that if that area is ever zoned for residential, than the original concern would not be an issue. His main concern is to keep the industrial development to the north side of Milliken Station Road. Roger displayed his survey map. He stated that he is working on an agreement with the Town Attorney for the Town to keep the private road sufficiently graveled with the stipulation that there are no more than four lots. Roger explained that he specifically is coming back to the Planning Board per their original request for him to provide a "loop" back to the Duenkelsbuehler property on Algerine /Lansing Station Road. He explained that he has left two alternate routes. George clarified that this paper road is there basically for any future developers of the Duenkelsbuehler property to see. They can than work around it and place it where it would work on their property. Larry Sharpsteen questioned whether there would be any deed restrictions on the lots. Roger stated that they would be restricted from any further subdivision. Roger clarified that he came to the board to share information, not to ask for a sketch plan approval. Update DaSubdivision QLJily_Orear Property, Tax Map #42-1-2.2 Roger Sovocool stated that he is considering working with Jay Orear regarding a piece of property along the lake front, which the neighbor (Mr. Thomas) to this property would like to add it to his lot. Mr. Orear had indicated to Roger that he had previously appeared before the Planning Board presenting his Sun Path Subdivision, to which there was some problems. Mr. Thomas would like to make sure that there isn't a problem with him using the connection of the private driveway to the north. Roger stated that when he first started looking at this he wasn't sure if it was a private road or a private driveway for his use. Viola stated that people have been voicing a concern about this driveway being used as an access road. Cheryl clarified that there is one family to the south of the Orear property that also uses that access. Roger didn't feel that anyone had a legal right of way for that driveway; they do have a right of way over an old lane on Carl Butler's property. George explained that he has many discussions with Mr. Orear over the past six months. Mr. Orear originally had wanted to put in a private road with two lots on each side of it and block the end of the road off from anyone else using it, unless they would be willing to help pay for maintenance. This situation is different from the one that he had come in with from 010 the land up above the lake front property. The problem with the land on top is that he sold lots off without coming to the Planning Board. Some arrangements had to then be made to get those lots included in the East Lake project. Al White added that there was supposed to be a road which was never installed to connect to the Charles property. George stated that x Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, March 14, 1994 he had a discussion with the Town Attorney in detail about this situation and was informed that the Planning Board should resolve the problems of the previous situation before getting involved in another subdivision with Mr. Orear. Larry Sharpsteen stated that the issue before the Planning Board tonight is a boundary adjustment between Orear and Thomas. Mr. Thomas would be acquiring additional property from Mr. Orear along the side of the property he already owns. Larry went on to state that there shouldn't be discussion of roads because all that is being presented is a boundary change. Al White added that in order to approve the boundary change to Mr. Thomas' property, there has to be a subdivision of Mr. Orear's property. Al added that until Mr. Orear has resolved the past issues, he would be opposed to a boundary change or a subdivision of this property. George clarified that the board's feeling is that until Mr. Orear resolves the problems and is on firm ground with the Town Board, Planning Board, and Town Attorney, there Lwill be no more transactions made. Robert Todd added that he isn't aware of this situation and will abstain from taking a position. To inform the new board members, Larry Sharpsteen stated that a situation existed where a property owner was not in compliance with the subdivision regulations. He wanted some action on a subdivision. The Planning Board, on advice of the Town Attorney, withheld action on his request until such a time as legal questions of his previous planned sales and subdivisions which were not approved have been clarified and brought into compliance. To date that still has not been taken care of, therefore, those current members of the board who were members at that time feel that since the original conditions have not yet been met, that the situation has not changed. Al believes that the Town Attorney has filed an injunction on any action of that property. This meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m. Submitted by Michelle Eastman The next meeting is scheduled for March 2 8 1994.