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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-01-24 TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday, January 24, 1994; 7:30 p .m. BOARD MEMBERS * Denotes Present * Jackie Baker * Cheryl Nickel * Lin Davidson, Treasurer * Larry Sharpsteen, Chairperson * Brad Griffin * Robert Todd, Vice Chairperson * Viola Miller * Al White * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT John Homa GENERAL BUSINESS Golden Garter - George Totman began discussing a potential upcoming subdivision of the Golden Garter property. Mr. Mahool is planning to sell the property, which is located in the Village of Lansing. The Health Department is requiring that enough property be sold with ® the building to include the septic system. The portion that needs to be added to the parcel is located in the Town. The question raised by George was whether this should be considered a subdivision or a boundary change. Larry Sharpsteen stated that the proposed action on this property would be to create two parcels, therefore, it should be considered a subdivision. George Totman statedthat per the subdivision regulations, there must be road frontage involved for the action to be considered a subdivision. There is no road frontage involved in this division; the only road frontage is located in the Village. Al White questioned whether the prior action of the Village of Lansing Planning Board has any bearing on the decision of the Town of Lansing Planning Board. Larry Sharpsteen responded that in reality it does impact the decisions because these are real issues. Viola Miller felt that since the Village has accepted this as a substantial subdivision, the Town of Lansing Planning Board should take some action. Al White suggested that the Planning Board note that this is both a division of land and a boundary change. The boundary change is to make the other lot conform to Health Department regulations; the division of land is from taking a piece from the parcel in the Town and adding it to the parcel in the Village. Viola suggested that the approval from the Village Planning Board be included in the paperwork presented to the Town Planning Board. George stated that he would relay this information to the owners to bring this to the Planning Board as a one-lot subdivision. ® Economic Development Committee I Wetland Study - Larry Sharpsteen stated that a subcommittee of the Economic Development Committee did a study on the ramifications of the wetland regulations as far as they are enforced by the Corps of Engineers on potential Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, January 24, 1994 developments particularly with an eye towards the major industrial area in the Town of Lansing. Much of that zone is wetlands. John Homa described the report he and his staff had prepared; copies were distributed to the board members. His study began by looking at potential areas of development, specifically the one north of the airport, which is an area that is currently zoned for industrial/commercial. One key point about New York State Wetlands is that no development can happen within 100 feet of a wetland. He displayed a state and a federal map of wetlands and commented that they sometimes don't overlap: Discussion turned to whether the Town of Lansing would be liable if a developer were to build on a wetland. George Totman stated that he wouldn't issue a building permit for within 100 feet of a wetland. Robert Todd stated that there are federal, state, and wetland regulations that would be activated before the town would become liable. George Totman went on to say that there are no regulations permitting someone from selling their property if it is a wetland; the regulations really only come into play when the other person buys the land and is planning to build. Robert pointed out that there is nothing in the subdivision regulations that states that the Planning Board has to inform the subdivider that there is a wetland on their property. Larry stated that even though this area was inadvertently left out of the subdivision regulations, that doesn't mean that the town wouldn't be responsible. Lin Davidson suggested using a type of disclaimer, such as the one used when referring to the Health Department regulations. John Homa liked the idea of a disclaimer, but thought it would be difficult to use since there are a number of different maps that identify wetland areas. Larry proposed to the board that instead of using a disclaimer, the board could make a statement that federal regulations do not allow development of wetland without replacement. Viola suggested an amendment to the subdivision regulations to allow the board to ask developers if there is a wetland on the property the are dividing. If the board determines that there is no wetland, then the responsibility would become that of the developer. George questioned the case if someone identifies a wetland on the property and the purchaser is aware of that fact, would the board then withhold granting of the subdivision because there is a wetland involved. His point was thatsome people may want to purchase a wetland. Robert felt that when anyone comes in for a subdivision, they should be made aware that they will be subject to state and federal wetland regulations; but he didn't feel that the Planning Board should be into enforcing the wetland regulations. George suggested inviting someone from the County Planning Board to come to the Town of Lansing Planning Board to discuss what has been going on in the state and other planning boards. Larry thought that would be a help as far as the wording is concerned. ,-- Tourism - Cheryl felt that tourism to the lake frontage could be used to the advantage of the town. She would like to get feedback from the Economic Development Committee on this concept. Larry stated that the EDC has had this discussion but it focused on the income from standard services (restaurant, antique stores, boutiques, etc.) and what their yearly intake would be which could be figured as tourism because of their location. John Homa stated that probably half of the tourism locally is generated by people within the town that just go out and do things. • Marina Expansion - Cheryl questioned what the plans are for UC Point. Brad explained that to his knowledge there is no immediate plan for development, but the long-range plan would Ton of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, January 24, 1994 ® be to make it a public launch site. The priority has recently been decreased because of the recognition of available sites in the park and in the private marina for access. x: F -- Larry Sharpsteen thanked John Homa for coming to the board and sharing his information. Lansing 2010 Project - Larry Sharpsteen stated that he had spoken with Tom Neiderkorn today regarding the plans for the next 60 - 90 days with the Lansing 2010 project. Tom stated that he is ready and waiting for the remainder of the reports in order .to pull 'a everything together. Cheryl stated she hasn't gotten all the committee reports yet. She didn't feel that the Natural Resources Committee would have their report completed in time r . . for the deadline. The Historic Committee is waiting for a report from their consultant, which should be ready in about a month. The Economic Development Committee, the Town Center Committee, and the Street Trees Committee have submitted written reports as well as maps. a R The Transportation Committee has not submitted a report to date; Cheryl will be following up with them. Most committees have not yet completed the mapping. w e' She doesn't see any major areas of conflict with what the committees have come up with so e . far. One possibility would be when the Agricultural Committee comes in and identifies areas 'q as good agricultural land, whether that would conflict with other residential or economic development recommendations. She presented three maps that she has been working on ;' with the Town Center Committee. They identify different locations for the town hall and a town green. This committee has also recommended a town center zone, which would be subject to site plan review. ® Cheryl reviewed the three versions of the town center and properties. She stated that these maps were distributed to the Town Center Committee to begin discussions of pros and cons. "fir The discussions were based on the placement of the town hall and how it relates to the rest i¢, of the scheme. Larry pointed out that parking needs to be considered in these maps. Cheryl stated that she can't begin to plan for parking on the town's land until the other factors have y : been decided. Larry questioned whether any other board members have been approached by the public concerned about a rumor stating that the town is going to sell their newly acquired land to lea developers. No other board members had been approached with this concern. Brad questioned Cheryl about the recreational ball fields and their proposed future location. She r4 stated that on one of the maps the fields are proposed to remain in their current location. Brad felt that the conversion of the ball fields would be a very negative thing for a town center, particularly in terms of the Town of Lansing. Cheryl questioned if he would feel this same way even if the fields were improved in a new location. George pointed out that none of the maps she presented tonight show a new location for the fields. Cheryl stated that the map she is currently working on does identify a new location across the road on the newT town land. Cheryl stated that there is going to be more work done on the final map, and the next stage will be to come back to the Planning Board with a final report summarized from the committee reports. George Tolman suggested that when this presentation is conducted, the w' Town Board members should. be invited to listen to keep them up to date. Cheryl suggested ® scheduling a joint meeting; Larry suggested waiting to schedule the meeting until all the reports from the committees have been submitted. - 'ter Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, January 24, 1994 Jackie questioned what the allowed uses are of the new land. Cheryl stated that as it is now the land was bought to be solely used for civic, municipal, and recreational purposes. There has been some pressure lately to open that up to other uses, but it doesn't seem likely that it will happen in the near future. Larry went on to clarify other uses such as: parking, municipal buildings, athle ! ic fields, senior housing, public housing, and a municipally-related medical uses like a care center. • Larry suggested to Cheryl that she give all the committees with outstanding reports a deadline of February 28 to have their reports and maps submitted for presentation to the Planning Board. Toint Meeting - George stated that he would ask Larry Tvaroha to ask the Town Board for some time on their agenda for the March 2 meeting to hear a update/presentation of the Lansing 2010 project. Larry Sharpsteen stated that this meeting would then take the place of the second meeting of the it nnin g Board in February. The Planning Board will hold approximately 20 minutes t tile end of the agenda for the February 14 meeting . to develop an agenda for the present :ii uron to the Town Board. Recognition of Linda Hi r v n n e n - Viola suggested that some type of recognition be given to Linda Hirvonen for her trim years of service to the Town of Lansing and. its Planning Board. Larry stated that this topic should be raised again at the regular meeting of the Planning Board on February 14. He stated that he has already personally sent her a thank you letter. George believes that the Town Board has also sent her a thank you letter. This meeting ended at 9 :30110 Submitted by Michelle E2 ; „, n The next meeting is sched t, ft , ' ` t February 14, 1994.