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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-10-11 • To Seneca Falls To Auburn 11- � � ry ' " TO of LANSING ` 4 et � s3. ; " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " a � f A 4 .11‘ rpTleo ' Zet, Iry`IhNit 1a e„ �A 14.. Y Vv�� K 3' 'e.! Town of Lansing � IN Box 186 N ' ` "C t i, Lansing 11" li- N . Y . 14882 � � � To Ithaca `TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING DATE : October , TIME : 7 : 30 P . M11. 1993 PLACE : LANSING COMMUNITY CENTER { ANNEX ) II AGENDA 7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - Approve Minutes of September 13 , 1993 General Business 8 : 00 P . M . Flynn Subdivision - Request for Boundary Change 8 : 30 P . M . Any other business to come before the Board : 1 . Propose New Members . 2 . Establish Second Meeting Date . 3 . Update on Town Meeting of September 30 , 1993 . TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday, October 11 , 1993; 7:30 p. m. ® PLANNING BOARD (* Denotes Members Present) * Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen, Chairperson Linda Hirvonen * Robert Todd * Viola Miller * Al White * Cheryl Nickel * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer a * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. As of this date per instructions of the Town Board, the Planning Board will now conduct its meetings in the Lansing Community Center (Annex Building). Review of Minutes from Meeting held September 13, 1993 Page Two, Review of August 9, 1993, Minutes - Al White pointed out that Cheryl Nickel is currently a non-voting member of the Planning Board, therefore, she did not second the motion to approve the minutes, Viola Miller did. Al White made a motion to accept the minutes as corrected; Viola Miller seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ® GENERAL BUSINESS Bi-Monthly Meetings - Larry Sharpsteen suggested that the Planning Board automatically schedule a second meeting each month, unless voted otherwise by the members. All agreed. ; . New Location of Meetings - The general understanding was that only the citizen advisory committees were no longer going to be able to meet in the Town Hall, but most were not F,'#%; aware that the ban included the Planning Board as well. Larry Tvaroha commented that that ., e was his understanding as well. George Totman commented that the staff working in the t . Town Hall has a need to expand their working space, which includes the area that the . boards and committees use. Larry Sharpsteen commented that it is more convenient to meet j ' • in the Town Hall which allows access to the copy machine and to George's files, but the f Lansing Community Center does allow more space for public meetings. George Totman made the suggestion of changing the meeting day and using the Town Court space when they are not using it. Larry Tvaroha stated that another concern behind the decision to no longer allow meetings in the town hall may have been the lack of security with so many committees holding meetings there. . Candidates for Vacancy - Larry Sharpsteen stated that he has compiled a listing of the names °. " .. of candidates submitted by the board members. Because he hadn't made extra copiesof the • list and no copy machine available at this meeting, Larry read through the list. The list, in s ; no particular order, is: *Gay Nicholson, Ludlowville; Pat Cox, Forest Acres Drive; *Jacobs f Baker, North Lansing; Barney Tremina, Triphammer Terrace; John Mikula, Armstrong Road; ® '_ *Arlene Dende, Armstrong Road; Norman Maywright, Drake Road; Debra Maywright, Drake Road; and *Andrea Benson, Lansingville Road. (* These candidates have been participating ' in one of the Citizen Advisory Committees.) He hasn't spoken with everyone to confirm =„ Nor „_ their interested; Gay and Arlene have currently expressed their interest and Barney's interest s., Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, October 11, 1993 is from the previous opening. Robert Todd stated that Andrea has expressed interest to him. • Based on the current vacancy and the upcoming vacancy in January, Viola Miller recommended closing the list and quickly making a recommendation to the Town Board. Larry Sharpsteen stated that he will contact all the people on the list within the next few days to confirm their interest. Viola also suggested inviting the candidate(s) to attend a meeting prior to the official appointment to give them an idea of how the board works. Update of September 30, 1993, Town Meeting Cheryl Nickel displayed and discussed the artists' drawing of a town center, which was a product of the September 30 meeting. She stated that the theme from the meeting was built around a town center. There were a lot of places for recreational centers, gazebos, and farmers' markets. One idea was for the new town hall to be a community space for multi uses. Parking was removed from the area and put along the side. There was a combination of stores, housing, and professional buildings. Cheryl stated that there were eight artists at this meeting and immediately after the meeting started the people were . directed to split up into small groups ending up with about ten people with each artist. Then everyone started brainstorming. At the end, a person who was not the artist and not a facilitator, made a presentation of the ideas from their group. Basically what came out of this meeting was a list of types of uses, while not all of them were feasible, they were something to consider. Cheryl stated that this meeting was video- taped. Cheryl stated that she has meet with a middle school teacher and they are doing an interdisciplinary project about using design and art to teach about town planning and architecture in the school. They are going to take historic Lansing buildings and have the kids learn to thaw them and talk about what was happening this period in Lansing history. Cheryl presented a board of pictures of homes that were taken by Pat Banfield and Carol Kammen. Committee Work - Larry Sharpsteen commented that some of the suggestions made by the committees at the September 15 joint meeting were unrealistic (e.g., eliminating the curve on Route 34). Viola doesn't want this board to loose site of what these committees were asked to do, which was to gather whatever suggestions they develop. She acknowledged that this board wouldn't be able to take every recommendation that the committees make, but . the Planning Board is expected to review them and determine if there is something that can be included in the comprehensive plan. Al White commented that some of the committees already understand that not all of the ideas may be implemented, and are therefore beginning to focus on one area (e.g., bike paths). That one area may not be realistic, but they feel as those they may only have one chance to get one of their recommendations before the Town Board. Robert Todd stated that he had recently attended a joint meeting of the Ag Committee, Historical Committee, and Parks and Recreation. He felt that these committees need direction from the Planning Board telling them that this is a comprehensive plan (20-year plan) and then the zoning. Viola commented that this is a comprehensive plan that needs to be done now that includes zoning. Robert felt that some of the committees are trying to pinpoint some very specific things, when they really need to look at a 20-year recommendation. Cheryl stated that she had a joint meeting with Harold VanEs and Tom Neiderkorn asking Tom to take a look at some of the recommendations from the committees r Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, October 11, 1993 • and determine what he could do with them. Tom felt there was quite a bit from the committees and that it could be put onto a map and have everyone respond to it. Cheryl stated that there is going to be a joint meeting of all the chairs of the committees and Planning Board members on November 3 to take a look at the first draft of the map. She felt that the group will then need to make a determination as to what is short term and what is long term. Robert Todd was concerned about clarifying historic versus natural resources. Larry Sharpsteen stated that the Department of Environmental Conservation has put together a listing of all the natural resources in this county. Robert feels that it is unrealistic to try to preserve everthing. Cheryl felt that these specifics could be fine tuned after the map has been prepared. Al White suggested gathering all the information before this board can make any decisions. Larry Sharpsteen commented that this discussion was a good exchange between these board members so that everyone knows what the other person is thinking. SUBDIVISION/BOUNDARY CHANGE, David Flinn, Ridge Road, Tax Map #254-3.12 and 25-1-1.2 George Totman explained that Mr. and Mrs. Flinn would like to sell their bed and breakfast, but to do just that would only leave a 50-foot right-of-way to their land in back. George stated that he discouraged the Flinns from submitting their request that in that form. The Flinns returned with a plan to take enough land from their other parcel to the north so that the parcel that has the barns on it will end up with 150 feet of access. They are asking for a subdivision to sell the bed and breakfast, and a boundary change to make the other lot a ® legal lot. The size of the lot in the back of this parcel is approximately 76 acres. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. Al White made a motion to accept this boundary change and subdivision as presented and waive the public hearing; Viola Miller seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY FURTHER DISCUSSION Historic Resources Committee - Viola Miller stated that the Historic Resources Committee is very interested ifi seeing that some provision be made for the storage of the many resources of this committee in the town hall as they have no "safe" storage for them. Larry Sharpsteen suggested contacting Ray Larison for some short-term storage space in his vault, which he is renting from the old Locke Bank. Agriculture Resources Committee - Robert Todd felt there is a stable group that attend the meetings of this committee: They have come up with some good recommendations. The underlying theme is that they would like to keep agriculture a major part of this town. He felt there is a feeling that there needs to be control of development. There is a concern that the non-farm population looks at the farm land as public land. He felt that non-farmers, through this process, are beginning to understand that farmers go out of business for economic reasons not because of development. Viola commented that recent news reported there will no longer be a farm census conducted. She commented that it needs to be clearer about the people who are farmers and those who just own farm land and work off of that property. These people with other jobs, shouldn't be counted as farmers. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, October 11, 1993 Cheryl stated that Monica Crispen spoke. to her committee about future farming in the • county and the farming that is doing well is greenhouse farming and produce farming (speciality farming). Those activities are allowing people to make a living off the land. Robert Todd felt that those people will also have at least one member of their family with an outside job, off of the farm. Robert Todd felt that the idea of a farmers' market is a good idea to preserve the agricultural nature in the town. Cheryl also discussed a job opening in Cooperative Extension that has to do with planning for the future of all towns and how communication systems and computer networks are changing. Cooperative Extension is looking at setting up a system of cooperatives for small businesspeople and farmers to have access to a cooperative office. Cheryl felt that Lansing could be a perfect protype forthis type of office. It would have a copy machine, fax machine, and telephones that people could use. Economic Development Committee - Larry Sharpsteen stated that one of the results of this committee's work is a list of suggestions for allowed uses for the land use ordinance. They have taken the assumption that there is going to be a major change to the zoning ordinance and will wind up with the entire town having some type of zoning. This committee feels that given the structure of development of small business today, the zoning ordinance must be carefully written as to not exclude allowable home use for businesses. ' This hasled into a discussion within the committee as to coming up with suggestions for the types of businesses that would be allowed in certain residential areas that are not home businesses. The mapping of all the businesses in Lansing is complete to date. The next step is to prepare a more finished map with a key and turn it over to the Master Plan Committee with a list of • their recommendations. They are hoping to have something realistic within a couple of months, but they would like to know whatthe expectations are and what the timeline is that would be required. They see themselves needing a few more months to complete. Larry sees a continuing involvement for some sort of business organization to have input to the Town Board. A business group that is perhaps more experienced than the current group. Larry Tvaroha asked if he had an example. Larry Sharpsteen offered the Economic Advisory Committee on the county level. He felt that people would like a channel to the Town Board. Larry stated that this committee will also provide a firm recommendation for a commerical corridor. Larry asked George for a copy of a map that shows the existing airport hazard zone and a map that shows the proposed expansion of the airport hazard . zone. Cheryl stated that Tom Neiderkorn would have a copies of these maps. Parks and Recreation Committee - Al White stated that he has not really been involved with this committee since they meet on the same night that the Planning Board meets, but he does receive minutes from their meetings. They have received permission to walk on private property in areas from the school to the town land through a couple of differnt routes. Al stated that he took two members of this committe over these areas in his airplane to take aerial photos. This committee has also spoken with the church about accessing the back of their property to Myers Park for a bike path. The church has been very enthusiatic about the idea and has been cooperative, but is concerned that people will still have to cross Route 34B. He brought up the idea of putting in a four-way stop at that intersection and referred to the concerned that was raised with putting in a four-way stop at the main intersection in Genoa. This has now become a much safer intersection for pedestrians and motorists. Lin Davidson stated that the school may be coming before the Town Board asking that Ludlowville Road C Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 5 Monday, October 11, 1993 be closed. Larry Tvaroha stated that he hasn' t heard anything yet, but felt they probably would keep it one way to allow for an second emergency access. Town Center Committee - Lin Davidson didn't feel that this committee would be able to complete their recommendations by December. Cheryl Nickel stated that Carl Hecht is planning to conduct an economic survey, which she passed a copy out to everyone. They are also going to put time into researching sewer options with this committee. This is part of the NYSCA inkind services, but Cheryl felt it would be good if each of the committees were to help in conducting this survey. Lin Davidson indicated that he attending a program on GIS mapping and collected a large amount of information. He referred to a newsletter from Nassau county that he found very • informative, and stated that he will distribute a copy to everyone. Lin stated that there are people on the Master Plan Committee who are beginning to look into sewage. Bylaws - Viola commented that this Planning Board is a professional committee and are operating under bylaws. She would like to see these looked at again. She would like to know who the treasurer is and who has been keeping track of the budget. Larry Sharpsteen stated that they currently do not have a treasurer. Viola stated that one should have been elected. The treasurer has the responsibility for the budget and should make a report at each meeting as to what has been spent and what is left. Al White . agreed. Larry Sharpsteen also agreed and asked Viola if she had a suggestion of a candidate. Viola stated that normally the board has elections. Lin . Davidson volunteered in the interim until the board has a full a; compliment of members sometime in January when official elections can be conducted. Larry Sharpsteen suggested that requests go through Lin, but Lin felt more comfortable if the requests originally went through Cheryl since she is the project coordinator. Agenda Items for October 25 Meeting - Larry Sharpsteen suggested that all of the committees . will be meeting before then, and felt that this Planning Board should discuss timelines. Cheryl stated that she will be meeting with Tom Neiderkorn to put out an assessment of the committees. Cheryl suggested that Tom Neiderkorn come to this meeting. The suggested time limit for this meeting is one hour. :t Al White made a motion to adjourn the meeting; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ba . The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 p .m. , a:: , _ . . . Submitted by Michelle Eastman ft'° Fp . The next meeting is scheduled for October 25, 1993 . ru (3 i; 14 1