Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-09-13 To Seneca Galls To Auburn 1 TOWN of LANSING ® " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " `-c • �\ , Town of Lansing ORDINANCE DEPT. � `•` I ` _ Box 186 Lansing, New York 14882 r To Itheca m C.:W _V OW :J7iNS I11G r ;3ANN I NV BOAR 4 _'~__4ET ? NG Date : September 13 , 1994 Time : 7 : 30 PM Place : Lansing Town Hall Board Room AGENDA ® 7 : 30 PM Open Meeting - General Business Approve Minutes of August 9 , 1993 8 : 00 PM Request for Boundary Change : Joan Couse - 1646 Ridge Road Tax Map # 2 . - 1 - 17 Susan Gell - 1652 Ridge Road Tax Map # 2 . - 1 - 18 8 : 15 PM Lucente Property : Overview of their Land Projection of 5 - 10 - 20 year Plan . 8 : 30 PM Any other business to come before the Board . 410 TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday, September 13, 1993; 7:30 p .m. ® PLANNING BOARD (* Denotes Members Present) * Lin Davidson * Larry Sharpsteen, Chairperson * Linda Hirvonen . Robert Todd * Viola Miller * Al White * Cheryl Nickel * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT Larry Fabbroni 127 Warren Road, Ithaca, New York Roger and Marilyn Hagin 375 Asbury Road, Freeville, New York Steve Lucente 103 Salem Drive, Ithaca, New York Alan Warley 308 Sperry, Ithaca, New York Larry Sharpsteen called the meeting to order at 7:32 p.m. ® GENERAL BUSINESS Annual Budget - Larry Sharpsteen explained that he had begun looking at the budget for 1994, and had reviewed the expenditures to date for 1993. His first draft has most of the items at the same level as for 1993, since the spending has been below the original projection. He felt this was because the Lansing 2010 project is not at the point where it needs the high cost items. In addition, based on a consensus of the Planning Board last year and figures that Linda Hirvonen had developed, he has put in $50 per meeting for the chairperson, and upon discussion with Jeannie Kirby, has put in $25 per meeting for each planning board member. Larry emphasized that this would by no means be pay, but instead a reimbursement for time, gas, and other miscellaneous expenses. This rate will be reimbursed on a per meeting basis and will be based on attendance. Larry didn' t know if this line item would go all the way through the Town Board, but he felt it was a good start. Viola Miller didn't disagree with the board members being paid, but felt that it puts the board members on an entirely different basis . They would not longer be volunteers, but a paid employee of the town. She felt the responsibility would be much greater on the board to perform. Linda Hirvonen commented that she did a survey of the chairs of all the surrounding communities last. year and they were all paid, but she wasn' t sure if all the board members were paid. Larry Sharpsteen added that based on the amount of time that everyone puts into this board, he didn' t feel it was equitable for just the chair to be compensated. Linda commented that if anyone was uncomfortable in receiving the compensation, they would be able to donate it back to the town. ® Cheryl Nickel felt that the Planning Board would use the services of someone like Tom Neiderkorn to pull together the updated master plan. Larry stated that there was still some money in the budget left for this, but that he may need to go back to the Town Board to request more. Larry didn't feel that the board would be using much more of Tom's services this year and suggested that the board project its overage and spend it. He suggested Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, September 13, 1993 putting it in an escrow account and put it towards the town's portion of the GIS program. • He stated that he will have to speak to the Town Board to see if that is legal. Site Plan Review - Lin Davidson stated that he has spoken with Dave Herrick about the cost of analyzing the north side of the road as to what it will cost to put in playing fields or to develop that area. The response from Mr. Herrick is that it would cost $700 - $1000 to get a good estimate of that information. Larry Sharpsteen stated that that would not be a cost item of the Planning Board, but of the Town Board or Parks and Recreation. New York State Planning Federation - Viola Miller commented that the agenda is excellent for the New York State Planning Federation meeting which is scheduled for October 17 - 20, 1993, in Neville, New York. Possible Candidates for the Planning Board - Larry Sharpsteen questioned whether everyone had brought their lists of possible candidates, and then collected all the lists. He clarified that these candidates would not be discussed at this meeting, but instead a complete listing would be shared with everyone for review and suggestions. Airport Hazard Zone - Cheryl Nickel questioned whether it would be possible to get some guidelines and recommendations from the FAA regarding the areas around airports. She felt it would be helpful to get that information in writing to publish for public information. Al White stated that he would be able to get a copy for the board. Review of Minutes of Meeting on August 9, 1993 Page Four, Sixth Line, Airport Hazard Zone - Lin Davidson wanted to clarify the sentence that read, "the town is growing and noise complaints could be dealt with as ag complaints are dealt with in an ag district. " Also to clarify, "Agreements could be made with local banks not to treat buyers or zoned residents seeking mortgages any differently than they do on the Dryden side of the airport hazard zone. " Delete the portion that reads "doesn't impact banks giving loans. " vt Al White made a motion to accept the minutes as corrected; Cheryl Nickel seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY BOUNDARY CHANGE, Joan Couse, 1646 Ridge Road, Tax Map #2.447 BOUNDARY CHANGE, Susan Gell, 1652 Ridge Road, Tax Map #2.4-18 George Totman explained that Joan Couse owns a small lot that was an old schoolhouse lot, which only has 47 feet of road frontage. Susan Gell, the owner of the property to the north has agreed to sell Ms. Couse 15 feet of her lot. Neither lot meets the requirements of the Town of Lansing. Both parties are requesting a boundary change to accomplish this a purchase/ transfer. Linda Hirvonen questioned what happens now if Ms. Cell's lot has a. septic failure. Al White commented that the lot is quite deep, and still would have sufficient footage to deal with a septic problem. George Totman stated that this boundary change would actually help Ms. Couse's lot if it had a septic failure, and wouldn't hurt Ms. Cell's lot. 40 Al White made a motion to dispense with the SEQR since there is no density change, no change in the use of energy, and only the boundary line will change. He made a motion to Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, September 13, 1993 ® accept this boundary change and to waive a public hearing; Linda Hirvonen seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Lucente Property, Overview of 5-10-20-Year Land Projection Larry Fabbroni appeared before the board, representing Steve Lucente, to reacquaint the board with some plans that were reviewed around eight years ago. These plans discuss the future development of Mr. Lucente's properties on Farrell Road and Asbury Road. Mr. Lucente's property is bordered on the north by Farrell Road and on the west by Warren Road. There is one little piece north of Farrell Road which is bordered by the Munson farm. Mr. Fabbroni explained at the original presentation, there was discussion about commercial use of the land near the corner and the balance being a mixed development of apartments, four-plexes, and single-family homes. There were a number of meetings and the plans were revised in terms of density and layout. They did some actual plans to determine ifthey were to build one way, how the drainage patterns would go in and how the sewer and water lines might run. Mr. Fabbroni explained that Mr. Lucente is still waiting for sewer to his property. He felt by next winter the existing properties could form some type of sewer district to get sewer. He again stated that his main purpose for coming back to the board is to review what had been discussed with the Planning Board and town-wide so that it doesn' t get lost at this point in history. He stated that they don't have a specific proposal to bring to the board since they don't have sewer. He explained that they did as much as they could with private systems ® for the existing apartments. They also have the five additional buildings that were approved by the Planning Board that they still need to start work on. Mr. Fabbroni began describing the area north of Farrell Road and south of Asbury. In his point of view, in looking at the entire town and what the future land uses might be, the influence of the airport, the noise from the airport, and the industrial facilities on Warren Road will all play an important role in the future development of that area. The Warren Road area will have a more intense use. He would like for the Planning Board to consider what the current land owners want to do with their land as they look at the whole land-use question in the town. George Totman clarified with Mr. Fabbroni that they are before this board meeting to discuss the long-term plans of the Lucente property, and to try to plan with the Planning Board as they are working on long-term plans forthe town. Linda Hirvonen mentioned to Mr. Fabbroni that the Housing Subcommittee of the Master Plan Committee is looking at housing and referred him to Gerry Bass, who is the chairperson She suggested that Mr. Fabbroni speak with Mr. Bass and to the committee sharing his data and concerns about future housing needs for the town. Cheryl Nickel commented that this area is going to be one of the fastest growing areas in the county, and questioned what affect that will have on the type of housing put in that area. Viola Miller commented that a number of surveys have been conducted, most of which pointed out the high number of people that travel into Tompkins County to work, but live in a surrounding county. Mr. Fabbroni also commented about the significant number of mobile homes in the Town of Dryden. He suggested that the numbers will generally dictate what people are looking for. Cheryl Nickel also point out the increase in traffic that will come along with more dense population. She commented that in the future, the number of Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, September 13, 1993 single-family homes along Warren Road will decrease. Larry Sharpsteen stated that these • discussions would be most appropriate within the Housing Subcommittee. Cheryl commented that this committee would be very interested in seeing the statistics prepared by Mr. Fabbroni. FURTHER BUSINESS Town Center Design Meeting - Cheryl Nickel stated that they are planning a town center design meeting open to the whole town on September 30, 1993, at 7:30 p.m. There will be about ten artists there to help people sketch their ideas of what they would like to see in the town. She felt this meeting would help people get a better understanding of what could be in the town. Lansing 2010 Town Meeting - Cheryl felt that the town meeting would be in November sometime. This meeting would be to present the committees' initial proposals. Larry Sharpsteen's opinion was that the town meeting shouldn't be any earlier than November, preferably after Thanksgiving but before Christmas. Linda Hirvonen disagreed stating that after Thanksgiving the audience will be lost for the rest of the year until after the New Year. Larry Sharpsteen didn't feel that the committees were that much farther along than from the last town meeting. Cheryl felt that there has been some good progress out of some of the committees, but there may not be some specific recommendations ready. George commented that some people work better with deadlines. Economic Development Committee - Larry Sharpsteen stated that the Economic Development Committee has almost completed plotting the businesses in Lansing on the map. This plotting graphically shows that the 50 percent of businesses are located within a mile of the town center. He stated that there are approximately 140 businesses in the town that range from one person businesses to businesses that employ up to 12 people. There are clusters around major intersections, and clusters in other areas, such as North Lansing and Sperry Lane. The EDC has come up with some suggestions on recognition of and acceptance of five distinct industrial areas with the suggestion of a sixth. Some of the discussion of this committee has focused on Warren Road and its existing businesses. Some of their work will be to revive the concept of expanding the existing industrial zone. Portland Point - George Totman explained that Welch Transportation is working towards a ten-year lease to open up Portland Point for barge and truck traffic. He explained that the site won't actually change, instead the area will need to improve the existing area. They will be using the one big building in back of the silos for storage. They may have a conveyor to unload the barges into the building. Larry Sharpsteen felt they may have to do some paving, some demolition to have some surface area to pave for truck parking, and that they are going to have to build a pier. George Totman explained that they are planning to rebuild the pier that is there. Cheryl stated that she would like to see that as an access point to the water for the public at some point. George stated that the impression he got from Mr. Welch, president of Welch Transportation, Inc., was that if after five years this process is going well, NYSE&G might put a plant in next to Milliken Station to handle this product instead of shipping it to Portland Point. Lin commented that the most ideal situation would be for them to put the gypsum plant in to the north of Milliken Station. Larry Sharpsteen stated that that was the original proposal brought before the Town Board. GIS Maps - Lin explained that he had spoken with Al Lewis and Jim Scalley to try to get Lansing high on their priority list. Al Lewis had come to Ithaca to meet with Jim Scalley and • Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 5 Monday, September 13, 1993 team at last week and were informed by Mary that Lansing would be done when it was done and there was nothing that their office could do with the Tompkins County Planning Board. Cheryl stated that the county has proceeded with some of their mapping. She felt they needed to ascertain what degree of accuracy they can put in. She stated that she had spoken with Al Lewis about the meeting with Jim Scalley, to which she was informed that he couldn't be there but that someone had spoken with Al. She explained that she should have the digitized air photos within a month, and that these are something that Al's graduate students could begin working on. Jim Scalley had mentioned to Cheryl that they would have tax property maps done by early next year. Cheryl stated that she will make some more phone calls to Jim Scalley and Jim Hanson to discuss this situation. Viola Miller made a motion to adjourn the meeting; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Meeting adjourned at 9 :00 p.m. The next meeting is scheduled for October 11, 1993. Submitted by Michelle Eastman