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LIrv. . wA2 L y P � .� s To a. ,l p2oP � & td SG b - D , Q ( Wi�� �l l lie � ��� 2 � , TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Monday, August 9, 1993; 7:30 p. m. 44, PLANNING BOARD (* Denotes Members Present) * Lin Davidson Cheryl Nickel Grace Haney * Larry Sharpsteen, Chairperson * Linda Hirvonen * Robert Todd * Viola Miller * Al White * George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT . Carol and Martin Farkas 108 Drake Road, Lansing, NY Roger Sovocool 27 Horizon Drive, Ithaca, NY Larry Sharpsteen called the meeting to order at 7:38 p. m. Review of Minutes from Meeting of July 12, 1993 Page three, fourth paragraph - Al White pointed out that the second to the motion was Viola Miller not Cheryl Nickel. Al White made a motion to accept the minutes as corrected; Linda ® Hirvonen seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Review of Summary from Meeting of July 26, 1993 Street Trees - Lin Davidson pointed out that it should be SBA not SDA, and NYSEG not NYSED. Linda Hirvonen made a motion to accept the minutes as corrected; Robert Todd seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY GENERAL BUSINESS Lin Davidson expanded upon an idea shared by Cindy Lion tow possibly facilitate better communication between the committees and the public. Her idea was for a poster that could be put up in businesses to provide up-to-date information. Lin stated that he hasn't had an opportunity to speak with Cynthia Frazier yet, but feels that the committees could hire people to keep the posters up to date for less money than it would take to disseminate another newsletter. Linda Hirvonen stated that she would convey this idea to the Communications Committee. Viola Miller also suggested another minimal economic option of publishing a progress report as well as a survey in the local PennySaver. George Totman stated that there is another weekly newspaper being published for the eastern portion of Tompkins County, beginning September 8. Lin Davidson suggested a telephone survey that could be designed and structured by Tom • Neiderkorn. Robert Todd suggested getting volunteers from the committees to assist in the actual process of surveying. Others felt that telephone surveys are not generally well received by the public, but that it is an alternative that may be considered. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, August 9, 1993 Lin Davidson brought up a report from a local radio station that stated that based on a market survey conducted, the town center project wouldn't be able to support itself. Lin clarified that this market survey was done for the Village of Lansing and not for the Town of Lansing. Larry Sharpsteen explained that the Economic Development Committee now has over 135 small businesses identified in the Town of Lansing. They will be continuing to research more data, and will be plotting the information onto a map. Robert Todd stated that the Agriculture Resources Committee has compiled a listing of all the farmers in the town and have plotted that information on a map. Larry Sharpsteen clarified that the EDC didn't feel the information gathered to date should be combined between these two committees at this point. He explanation is that once the GIS maps are ready to be developed, the information from the committees could be made into separate overlays. ONE-LOT SUBDIVISION and BOUNDARY CHANGE, Martin Farkas, Drake Road, Tax Map #37.1-1.26 George Totman explained that Marty Farkas owns this lot with two houses on it, and wants to demolish the old house and put another one in its place. He then wants to be able to divide the lot into two and sell the second house and lot separate from the original lot. Mr. Farkas explained that he originally rurchased the land (1 .75 acres) with two houses on it. He cleaned up the first house and wouldnow like to clean up the second house. In order to satisfy the 150 foot road frontage requirement, he is asking for approval of a flaglot. He explained that he is not land bound on the northern side, which would allow him to change the boundary line to make the second lot meet the requirements. Al White pointed out that Mr. Farkas had asked him to come to the property and give him some input as to how to proceed. Mr. Farkas explained that he is not adding to the density of the neighborhood since the house is already there, but is instead trying to clean up the neighborhood. Larry Tvaroha commented that he appreciates the work that Mr. Farkas is doing to clean up that neighborhood and improve the conditions. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Al White made a motion to accept the plat as shown, subject to approval by the Health Department, and to waive the public hearing; Linda Hirvonen seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY • BOUNDARY CHANGE, Louis Emmick, Buck Road, Tax Map #284-25.41 George Totman explained that when the Emmicks originally purchased the land from Burdett Lewis, Mr. Lewis didn't want the buyer to impinge upon his farming activities. Mr. Lewis is now selling the farm and has agreed to sell the Emmicks the 70 feet to the wooded area. George stated that he explained to the Emmicks that this should only be a boundary change. Linda Hirvonen made a motion to accept the boundary change as presented; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, August 9, 1993 ® SKETCH PLAN REVIEW, Roger Sovocool Roger Sovocool appeared before the Planning Board to review a sketch plan for a subdivision off of Milliken Station Road. He explained that he is putting together a plan to purchase the Cornell Farm. He has been working with NYSE&G to determine how much of the land they would want. He explained that there would be a restriction for some of the land to remain "forever wild", which would be no industrial, business, mining, lumbering, or storing of materials, except that they wanted the right to use it for residential purposes in the event that NYSE&G ever gave up their plant. The only other thing they wanted to do was to widen Milliken Station Road at one point, and also to put in an air quality control station for monitoring purposes. Mr. Sovocool explained that he has been reserving a 100 foot piece which would be for roadway and utility purposes. It also would be more than the right of way, it would be the ownership of the 100 foot parcels. The prospective owners would like to sell of the southern part of the land of approximately 35 - 38 acres. He explained that the plan would be to divide the inner parcel (lots #2, 3, and 4) to provide the seller with some extra income to develop the roadway. This area is not planned for high intensity. He acknowledged the concern previously expressed by the board as to having a future connection over to. Algerine Road. He felt that this paper road would need to be either close the lake or on the other far easterly end of the parcel. This emergency /paper road could possibly cross Morrow Creek and connect with Duenkelsbuehlers' property or others. He alsopointed out a future possibility of tr e paper road connecting with the new road that Milliken Station has just completed. His concern is that the paper road would cut lot #2 in half, and would like to see if another option could be identified. The other consideration is that for lot #1 he would like to put in some wording to allow for the paper road. The lots #2, 3, and 4 are each well over five acres and will have frontage on the private road. Larry Sharpsteen and Linda Hirvonen questioned how much of lot #2 would be moved, if, for example, the boundary of lot #1 is extended to the line for the road. Mr. Sovocool explained that you can' t reach parcel #2 from #1 , but if the road were in place then #1 would just have to subdivide at some point. Larry explained that this might make it more attractive for #1 to put the money into the road instead of Mr. Sovocool. Mr. Sovocool explained that he might keep the upper part of #1 and he would be able to control putting in the road, but he would consider both options. Larry Sharpsteen and Linda Hirvonen both commented that this plan has been well thought out. Linda felt it was a good opportunity to open up that land and with little expense to the town. Larry Tvaroha questioned the possibility if someone were to purchase lot #2, then decide to build a 10-lot subdivision. What impact would that have on the road? Would there be restrictions? Mr. Sovocool explained that he would ask that the larger parcel could not be subdivided, particularly because there are three large gorges on that parcel. He also explained that of lot #2, the portion north of the paper road is the area he would like to see the least developed because of its naturally beautiful area. He would put in the restriction for that portion of lot #2 north of the paper road. Parcel #2 is approximately 20 acres. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, August 9, 1993 George Totman explained that his understanding is that unless Mr. Sovocool builds that road • to town specifications and has it dedicated, he can only have four lots. Robert Todd questioned the purpose of the emergency road. Mr. Sovocool responded that the Planning Board had felt that there should be a connecting road between Milliken Station Road and Algerine Road. Over most of the paper road there is an existing farm lane that served the Dates' property. He believes that Mr. Duenkelsbeuhler has a right of way over this lane. Some of the concern of the people of Lake Ridge is the possibility of a potential fire or truck accident at NYSE&G and not being able to get out through Milliken Station Road. Therefore, it would be good to have a connecting road across from Algerine Road to Milliken Station Road. This idea would also apply to the people on Algerine Road, who in case of an emergency would need a second egress point. Larry Sharpsteen also pointed out that this second outlet is required in the regulations for a dead-end, dedicated road. Al White questioned the proposed road connecting to NYSE&G's new road and where it would be located. He also questioned whether Mr. Sovocool would consider putting in an easement. Mr. Sovocool responded that this paper road wouldn't come through lot #2. Linda Hirvonen made a motion to accept the sketch plan as presented; Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY FURTHER BUSINESS Cayuga Highlands - Larry Sharpsteen updaed that board that the culvert is in and the connection is made between Susan Kim's and Lakewatch, and that the road repairs have •been made. Larry tvaroha commented that more than just repairs have been made on the road, but is instead a major rework of that road. George Totman clarified that the Kim subdivision, known as Cayuga Highlands, has been purchased by Bernie Malroy and a partner. , New Board Member(s) - Viola Miller suggested that the Planning Board begin looking at candidates to replace Grace Haney and Linda Hirvonen and to fill in while Cheryl Nickel is on leave. Viola suggested looking at the committees for people who might be interested. Larry Sharpsteen also added that there is a standing list of people who are interested that was submitted to the Town Board. Larry Tvaroha added that the Town Board would like to see an updated listing of interested people. Larry Sharpsteen suggested that everyone come to the first meeting in September with names of possible candidates. Meeting - Robert Todd made a motion to cancel the second meeting of the Planning Board in August; Lin Davidson seconded. Airport Hazard Zone - Lin Davidson commented that on one half of this issue there is private property and on the other it is said that growth is being limited by not being able to bring in bigger planes because of noise complaints. He feels that since this involves the whole county's development, a resolution should come through the Board of Representatives. He didn't feel that the town should be dealing with this, but is only because it is in our town. The town is going to grow, and noise complaints should be dealt with in an Ag district idea, yet it doesn't impact banks giving loans. Linda explained that Tom Neiderkorn suggested that that area be confined to five acre or more parcels, which would limit the number of people there to begin with and would not impact the neighbors as much industrial zone. Larry Sharpsteen felt it was a good idea to get input from the County Board as to what their Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 5 Monday, August 9, 1993 plans are 15 years from now. Robert Todd questioned the purpose of passing this issue on to the County Board and why Lin wouldn't want to leave it for the Town of Lansing to decide. Lin sees this as a county-wide issue since the airport serves the entire county. He sees the airport growth as an adjunct of county growth in a sense. Robert expressed his concern for the need to keep the control as local as possible. Larry Tvaroha stated that from the perspective of the town, they don't like to have the county telling them what to do in any matter. Robert Todd made a motion to adjourn the meeting; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Meeting adjourned at 8:45 p .m. Submitted by Michelle Eastman The next meeting is scheduled for September 13, 1993 .