HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-06-16 TB 2 .63 ;
JUNE 16 , 1993
The Lansing Town Board met in Regular Session at the Lansing
Town Hall Board Room at 8 : 00 P . M . with Supervisor Kirby presiding .
ROLL CALL
Jeannine Kirby Supervisor Present
P aul Butler Councilman Present
H erbert Beckwith Councilman Present
Jeffrey Cleveland Councilman Present
L arry Tvaroha Councilman Present
B onita Boles Town Clerk Present
Richard Thaler Town Attorney Present
✓ ISITORS : George Totman , Dave Herrick , Pete Larson , Bradley
Griffin , Stacy and John Coil , and Andrea Benson .
The Supervisor called the meeting to order and had the clerk
take the Roll Call .
P roof of Notice having been furnished , the bid opening on roof
repairs at the Highway Garage was called to order at 8 : 00 P . M . The
bids were as follows :
WRIGHT CONTRACTING
3853 West Bates Road
Trumansburg , N . Y . 14886 - 9310 $ 59 , 413 . 00
WRIGHT CONTRACTING
( Alternate Bid ) $ 59 , 072 . 00
R . L . BREEN PAINTING & RESTORATION
13129 West Church Street
Savannah , New York 13146 $ 34 , 976 . 00
EXCELSIOR SYSTEMS , INC .
715 Willow Ave .
Ithaca , New York 14850 $ 41 , 225 . 00
Mr . Larson will look over the bid proposals and get back to
the Board with his recommendation .
Mr . Brad Griffin informed the Board of the following :
1 . Fran Bureau came before the County Environmental
Management Council and asked for support and staffing for the soil
and water district . He stated that the start up fee would be
$ 44 , 000 . 00 for the first year . The Board felt there were
duplications of services already being performed by other
agencies . It was the consensus of the Town Board that since these
were duplicated services and the future cost could not be
projected , they could not support it .
2 . Mr . Griffin stated that John Howell chaired a committee
that put together an inventory of unique and special geographic
areas of the County . He thought it should be updated .
3 . Dick Fisher was instrumental in making the bottle bill
happen state wide .
Mr . Tvaroha stated that the Town of Lansing was very fortunate
A to have a man with Mr . Griffin ' s expertise and experience as their
representative .
Andrea Benson approached the Board in regard to the
intersection of 34B and Ludlowville Road . She stated that two of
her son ' s were recently in an accident at this intersection and
felt something should be done to make if safer . She also stated
that the Lansing School was very concerned with this ongoing
problem . She asked the Board for guidance from the Town Board .
They suggested that she contact the Lansing School Board and ask
them to pass a resolution asking New York State to do something
about the intersection and bring it back to the Town Board for
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their endorsement before sending it to the State .
Mr . Thaler also stated that signs could be posted prohibiting
buses and large trucks from the intersection .
Mrs . Benson will meet with the School Board and get back to
the Town Board .
Mr . and Mrs . Coil approached the Board asking for a speed
reduction on Searles Road . The following resolution was then
adopted by the Town Board :
RESOLUTION , offered by Mr . Beckwith and seconded by Mr .
Cleveland : 4111
B E IT RESOLVED , that the Petition of the residents of Searles
Road be forwarded to the Commissioner of the Department of Motor
✓ ehicles together with the Town Board ' s request for a review of the
speed limits on Searles Road between New York State Route 34 and
Conlon Road as shown in the Petition , and an appropriate reduction
of the speed limit be made .
B E IT FURTHER RESOLVED , that the Town Board direct the Town
S uperintendent of Highways to inspect Searles Road between New York
Route 34 and Conlon Road as show in the Petition , and that the Town
S uperintendent of Highways put appropriate signage on these roads
to indicate the presence of children .
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Herbert Beckwith , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Paul Butler , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Jeffrey Cleveland , Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Larry Tvaroha , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Jeannine Kirby , Supervisor
✓ ighway Superintendent , Pete Larson , reported the following to
the Board :
1 . There is a problem with property owned by Mr . Warmus in
the Fiddler ' s Green area . Mr . Larson recommended that the Board
allow himself and Mr . Cleveland to go back to Mr . Warmus and try to
rectify the problem . It appears that the Town Road infringes on his
private property and goes outside of the right - of - way . It was the
consensus of the Board to have Mr . Larson and Mr . Cleveland meet
with Mr . Warmus and try to rectify the problem .
2 . Mr . Larson looked into having the State Land mowed .
This would involve approximately 60 acres . Mr . Larson stated that
h e had a couple of proposals for the work and asked for the Board ' s
g uidance . It was the consensus of the Board to authorize Mr .
L arson to go with the lowest price and to use his own judgement .
3 . In regard to the State Land , Mr . Thaler stated that he
h ad received information from Senator Seward stating that the Local
B ill involving the use of the State Land had been passed in the
Senate .
4 . Murfield Drive : Mr . Larson stated that Mr . Herrick is
putting together price lists as to how much it would cost to fix
the road . Mr . Thaler stated that once the figures came in , he
would send Mr . Hicks and his ex wife a certified letter that would
state they would have ten ( 10 ) days to decide if they will fix the
road or if the Town will have to perform the work . Mr . Thaler
stated that if the Town does have to perform the work , they would
then have to sue the Hicks ' s to get their reimbursement . It was
the consensus of the Board to allow Mr . Herrick to put together a
price analysis .
5 . Creek at Milliken Station : The people in this area have
asked the Town Highway Department to push out the creek with a
dozer . Mr . Larson felt if it was done once the Highway Department
might be held responsible to do it every time after this . Mr .
Tvaroha asked if the Town did the work , could it be tied into the
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unusual circumstances of the 100 year flood ? Mr . Larson stated
that the only responsibility the Town has in this area is that many
years ago they put in two culverts for a road way . It was the
consensus of the Board to have Mr . Thaler write a letter to Mr . Lee
Ruzicka stating that it was the consensus of the Board and the
advice of the Town Attorney , that there was no legal way the Town
could perform this job .
6 . Mr . Larson stated that he had received two engineer
reports back from the County Office and from Miller ' s office on the
land slide on Crooked Hill Road . Mr . Larson felt they should be
411 discussed at a Public Meeting to inform the people of the options
that are open along with cost figures . Mr . Larson will put together
prices on what it would cost to make the road into a walkway with
a four foot high chain link fence .
7 . Mr . Larson stated that he would like to see the road that
g oes off to the right of Mr . Horky ' s road named .
8 . Mr . Larson stated that Mr . Pinney had a sample from his
pit tested and it did not pass . Mr . Larson then had Mr . Pinney take
another sample which did pass . Mr . Thaler asked for an update on
the letter Mr . Herrick wrote to Mr . Larson in regard to Mr .
P inney ' s road . ( Board Members received copies also ) . Mr . Larson
met again with Mr . Pinney to make sure he had addressed the
problems that were pointed out in the initial inspection . At that
time another sample was given from the pit and another spec sheet
g iven , which passed Town specifications . On June 2 , 1993 , Mr .
Larson took another sample from the material that had been used in
the road and sent it to Empire Soils . The results stated that it
w as 7 % which is below the 8 % that the Town specifies . One
additional sample has been taken but will take about two weeks to
✓ eceive the results . Mr . Thaler was concerned that the Town did not
end up with the same problems that they are having in the Lake
W atch and Hickory Knoll developments . Mr . Thaler informed Mr .
Larson to have everything put in writing .
® Mr . Thaler stated that as of today , there has been no activity
o n the Lake Watch road . He has written Mr . Pinney ' s attorney a
letter indicating that by contract with the Town , Mr . Pinney has
until a certain date and if he does not perform by said date , the
Town can move on both bonds .
Mr . Herrick stated that some action tests could also be taken
o n materials that are being used on the road off of Fiddlers Green .
Mr . Herrick also stated that there was no engineer on the job .
Mr . Cleveland asked if all gravel pits had to be approved by
New York State . Mr . Larson informed him that they did not unless
the material was to be used on a State job .
Mr . Thaler suggested that the Town write Mr . Pinney a letter
stating the Town will not accept the road until such time as core
samples are done in a number specified by the Town Engineer and
meet Town specifications . He would suggest to Mr . Pinney , that the
core samples be done now .
Mr . Herrick suggested a more stringent monitoring program be
considered and the developer be notified that any expense incurred
by the Town would be reimbursed by the project . Mr . Thaler stated
that either Mr . Pinney could perform this and submit the results to
the Town or the Town could do it and Mr . Pinney would then pay for
it . It was the consensus of the Board that this should be a Town
expense .
Mr . Herrick stated this is a NON D . O . T . source of supply .
411) Mr . Tvaroha stated that he would rather identify the problem
now and would like to see the Town be in control of sampling and
testing and not have to rely on the developer or contractor .
Mr . Herrick suggested that Town hire a technician to take
samples instead of himself as this would be less expensive .
Mr . Larson stated that if the Town makes Mr . Pinney perform
the added tests that all other developers should be required to do
the same . Mr . Tvaroha stated that it was the " source " of the
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material that is giving the Town some concern .
It was the consensus of the Board to have Mr . Herrick and Mr .
Larson continue sampling as they have and when the sub base
material is in , Mr . Larson is to hire someone to take core samples
that are acceptable to Mr . Larson and Mr . Herrick .
Mr . Herrick reported the following to the Board :
1 . The Town received a letter from N . Y . S . E . and Gas
regarding the survey letters for the proposed Water District No .
17 . Mr . Herrick stated that parts of Sperry Lane and Lakeview 4110
" might " still be interested in the project if the cost could be
lowered .
Mr . Beckwith stated that he would rather see Milliken
S tation and the Ridge Road area as a district and then have the
Lakeview - Sperry Lane area be an extension . He also felt Fiddlers
G reen could be a separate extension at some point . Mr . Beckwith
felt the Ridge Road people should be updated on what has been
h appening .
2 . Mr . Thaler stated that John Anderson from the Health
D epartment has NO problem with the sewer policy that states that
anyone who is in a sewer district and has an established sewer line
in front of their house and pays the access fee , can get a permit .
Mr . Anderson thought it would be more appropriate to give permits
to houses or lots that are in an approved section of the Horizons .
Mr . Totman stated that the only reason some sections are not yet
approved is because they do not have public sewer . Mr . Totman also
stated that he can not issue a building permit in a subdivision
that has not been approved . Mr . Totman stated that the Planning
B oard approved Mr . Lima ' s subdivision subject to the availability
of public sewer . Mr . Thaler stated that if a lot has an approved
sewer line in front of it , Mr . Totman can give a permit .
Mr . Thaler stated that once the fee has been set , the
permits could be given out .
Mr . Totman handed out his report and informed the Board of the
following :
1 . American Disabilities Act : Mr . Totman felt the Town
should put something in motion very soon .
2 . There is a lot of debris coming in on a lot on Breed Road
that is owned by Tompkins County . There have been NO permits issued
for this . Mr . Totman left a message with the County . Mr . Totman
d id get in touch with Philip Cowels from the County Solid Waste
D epartment and felt that he was aware of this situation . Mr . Totman
w ill look into this further .
3 . Mr . Totman stated that the road that will soon be cut off
from Milliken Station Road will need a new name . He will contact
the two home owners that are involved and see if they can come up
w ith a name .
4 . A lot of complaints are coming in from home owners in the
Smugglers Path area .
5 . About ten letters have been sent out to people in regard
to junk cars .
6 . A trailer has been placed on the property owned by •
D orothy Delaney in North Lansing and has been hooked up to the main
sewer which Mr . Totman feels is illegal . Mr . Tom Dunn from the
Tompkins County Health Department proposed the following to the
D elaney ' s :
He sent them an application for a conversion permit and stated
that he will issue the permit as long as they have enough land that
w ill take a septic system if the one that they are going to defer
into runs over onto the ground . Mr . Totman does NOT agree with
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this .
7 . There is a problem with the cords for Lansing Days . It
w as the consensus of the Board to authorize Mr . Totman to install
an approved box on the outside of the Town Hall so that this can be
u sed each year during Lansing Days .
Mrs . Kirby stated that she had received a petition from the
Ladoga residents asking to have their area sprayed . The DEC in
Cortland suggested to Mrs . Kirby that the briquettes be used for
the mosquito control as it is much more effective . It was the
consensus of the Board to have Mrs . Kirby tell the people involved
that she has researched the matter and if the people can get a hold
o f the Tompkins County Health Department or the Department of
E nvironmental Conservation to agree that this should be done
because of the flood , they will then give justification to the
B oard to authorize this .
Mrs . Kirby stated that last fall Bolton Point had given Mr .
Totman rules to follow in regard to plumbing procedures . She stated
that the Town Board has been asked to approve new rules and
✓ egulations but there is nothing in them concerning plumbing
inspections other than plumbing inspections will be done . Mr .
Totman will see what he has in writing and then meet with Mr .
Thaler in regard to this .
. A copy of the minutes of May 19 , 1993 , having been furnished
to the Board Members beforehand , the Supervisor asked for a motion
to make _ correction or to accept them as submitted .
RESOLUTION offered by Mr . Cleveland and seconded by Mr .
B utler :
RESOLVED , that the minutes of May 19 , 1993 are hereby approved
as submitted .
Carried .
AUDIT RESOLUTION offered by Mr . Beckwith and seconded by Mr .
Tvaroha :
RESOLVED , that the bookkeeper is hereby authorized and
d irected to pay the following bills :
G eneral Fund 285 - 335 $ 108 , 650 . 88
H ighway Fund 212 - 250 $ 24 , 830 . 29
L ansing Wr . Dists . 30 - 40 $ 38 , 659 . 37
Wr . Systs . Imp . Proj . 17 $ 2 , 540 . 40
McKinney Water 3 - 4 $ . 586 . 07
Lans . Lighting Dist . 6 $ 1 , 110 . 02
✓ ote . of Town Board . . ( Aye ) Herbert Beckwith , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Paul Butler , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Jeffrey Cleveland , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Larry Tvaroha , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Jeannine Kirby , Supervisor
Mr . Thaler stated that an opinion has been handed down stating
that the collection of fees by the County , from a Town for an
E lection for anything other than a Special Election and special
services is IMPROPER . It was the consensus of the Board to have the
bookkeeper send the County a bill for payments made in the past .
After a public hearing of the Town Board on May 19 , 1993 which
was duly published , the following Resolution was made by Jeffrey
Cleveland and seconded by Larry Tvaroha and . everyone voting in
favor that Local Law No . 1 for the year 1988 is hereby amended as
follows :
S ection 8 : Solid Waste originating outside Town .
N o person shall transport , import or bring into the Town , or
cause or permit to be transported , imported or brought into the
Town , or shall throw , dump , dispose or deposit in or on any private
or public land in the Town , or cause or permit to be so thrown ,
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dumped , disposed or deposited , any solid waste originated or
g enerated outside of the Town or from any source outside the Town .
N o person shall operate a solid waste management facility which
accepts or receives solid waste originating or generated outside of
the Town , except that upon written application to the Board by an
approved and licensed management facility as defined herein , the
Town Board may consider approving solid waste as defined in this
law to be brought into the Town and placed in the solid waste
management facility located in the Town of the Town Board is
satisfied after a public hearing held for that specific purpose •
that the solid waste does not create a noxious environment , a
public nuisance to the area surrounding the solid waste facility
and that the solid waste facility is of sufficient capacity and has
the management to avoid creation of an environmental hazard or
danger to the health and welfare of the Town ' s people or a decrease
in the value of land immediately surrounding the solid waste
management facility . The Town Board shall make a written finding
u pon proof given to it by the applicant that the granting of the
e xception to this Section does not injure the health , safety and
w elfare of the residents of the Town .
8 . 1 The Town Board shall set a fee for any permit granted
under the exception . The fee shall be based upon the weight of
material being brought into the Town .
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Herbert Beckwith , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . ( Aye ) Paul Butler , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Jeffrey Cleveland , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Larry Tvaroha , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Jeannine Kirby , Supervisor
RESOLUTION offered by Mr . Cleveland and seconded by Mr .
B utler :
B E IT RESOLVED , that pursuant to the provisions of Section 8 . 1
o f Local Law No . 1 for 1988 as amended , the fee ' for obtaining a
permit authorized by the Board as an exception shall be ten cents
per ton of material brought into the Town and dumped into a
licensed management facility .
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Herbert Beckwith , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Paul Butler , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Jeffrey Cleveland , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . . ( Aye ) Larry Tvaroha , Councilman
✓ ote of Town Board . . ( Aye ) Jeannine Kirby , Supervisor
Mr . Thaler stated that he has heard from Mr . Frank Proto
authorizing him to go ahead with the legal documentation for his
w ater extension .
RESOLUTION offered by Mr . Beckwith and seconded by Mr .
B utler :
RESOLVED , that the Regular Meeting be adjourned to go into
E xecutive Session at 10 : 40 P . M .
Carried .
RESOLUTION offered by Mr . Beckwith and seconded by Mr .
Cleveland :
RESOLVED , that the Executive Session be terminated and the
Regular Meeting be reconvened at 10 : 55 P . M .
O n motion , meeting adjourned at the call of the Supervisor .
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