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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-05-10 To Seneca Falls { To Auburn ,1: . \ , , r t 5L;- "4.1A4:41:1*. i TOWN of LANSING ent % a , ?. �, ' Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " c A6k . F Y bl,W S . , i •'f L t 1 p 'tyt Town of Lansing • '` c ; ; 1,31 ORDINANCE DEPT. ` \ \` y , ;'. Box 186 �y A t4- ti Lansing, New York 14882 . ' � � , ,. To Ithaca TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Date : May 10 , 1993 Time : 7 : 30 P . M . Place : Lansing Town Hall Boardroom AGENDA III7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - General Business - Approve Minutes of April. 12 , 1993 7 : 45 P . M . Roger Sovocool - Discuss Possible Development of Cornell Property & Adjacent Property 8 : 00 P . M . Public Hearing - Lucente , Village Circle Subdivision Lots # 39 . - 1 - 38 . 2 , 38 . 12 , 38 . 7 8 : 15 P . M . Public Hearing - Hovanec - Subdivision - Scofield Road # 38 . - 1 - 6 8 : 30 P . M . William Genung - Subdivision - Davis Road # 10 . - 1 - 12 . 1 8 : 45 P . M . Melvin Brown ( Chip Laundry ) - Subdivision - Goodman Road # 20 . - 1 - 8 . 2 9 : 00 P . M . Questions and Review of Budget Allocation Two Proposals for Facilitator Work Shop 9 : 15 P . M . Any other business to come before the Board . TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Meeting Monday, May 10, 1993; 7 :30 p. m. PLANNING BOARD *Denotes Present * Lin Davidson * Cheryl Nickel * Grace Haney * Larry Sharpsteen , Chairperson ' * Linda Hirvonen Robert Todd * Viola Miller Mullane Al White * George Totman, Planning, Zoning, and Code Administration * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT Laurence Fabbroni 127 Warren Road Mike Hovanec 1395 Danby Road Chip Landry 1429 Danby Road Steve Lucente 103 Salem Drive Roger Sovocool 27 Horizon Drive Larry Sharpsteen called the meeting to order at 7:31 p. m. Review of Minutes from April 261 1993 • Page Two, Kaplan Grant - Cheryl Nickel pointed out that the name Linda Hirvonen should be changed to Larry Tvaroha. Viola Miller made a motion to approve the minutes as corrected ; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY GENERAL BUSINESS Larry Sharpsteen questioned the board members whether their committees have completed the surveys distributed by Tom Neiderkorn. Cheryl Nickel indicated that she hasn't handed them out to her committee yet, because she had a question on one item. Larry Sharpsteen felt that Tom was looking for first impressions on these surveys, and that she should pass them out to her committee members to complete as soon as possible. Lin Davidson explained that he has spoken with the archivist of airphotos at Cornell University, who has aerial photos of Lansing dating back to 1930s. They range in price from $5 to $60. He explained that he will be meeting with the archivist to see what she has of Lansing, and suggested that representatives from other committees might also like to go to this meeting. Viola explained that there are aerial photos in the files of the town, and that Tom Neiderkorn might also have some photos. Review of Mission Statement Grace Haney discussed the actions that were defined for the Communications/Public Relations Committee at the last meeting. Grace stated that she brought that information back to the committee which balked at the secretarial nature of those duties. She explained that what the committee wants to be involved in is all public relations between the committees and the public. Grace indicated that Sharon Bowman has agreed to make all the • necessary copies of the minutes from each committee meeting and put them in the folders for each committee. Larry responded that it wasn't the intention of the Planning Board to insult the committee, just to give them a way of obtaining information from the other committees and keeping up to date with all their activities. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 2 Monday, May 10, 1993 • Lin Davidson felt there was a real need for the Communications/Public Relations Committee to prepare a progress report of each committee on a chart. For example, there are seven committees, this chart could show the areas that are being overlapped by the committees. Viola agreed that if the committees are overlapping in their discussions and work, that the Planning Board as a whole should be looking at those topics more closely. Larry Sharpsteen suggested that a member of the Communications/Public Relations Committee sporadically attend a meeting of each of the other committees. Larry Sharpsteen began discussing the draft of the mission statement that he presented for review to the board members at the last meeting. Larry Tvaroha commented that the mission statement does encompass the areas that the Town Board asked the Planning Board to look at. Grace Haney left that the mission statement should be included in the newsletter, which is being planned for dissemination on May 21 and is before the next Planning Board meeting scheduled for May 24. Therefore, she would like everyone to have the opportunity to review it once more before it goes to print. Linda Hirvonen felt that the first draft was a good start with some generalities and some spots of specificity. Grace Haney felt that there needs to be more balance of growth . She felt that growth is coming whether it is residential or commercial , and rather than be specific and listing what types of growth , the mission statement should make the point that there will be growth in all areas. Larry Sharpsteen commented that he and Linda Hirvonen had a discussion in which they both felt that the activities of the Planning Board needs to be defined ; all board members agreed. The idea for a mission statement was the outcome of this discussion. The exact wording of the mission statement agreed upon by all members of the Planning Board is as follows : • Town of Lansing Planning Board 1993 Project "Lansing 2010 Mission Statement". At the direction of the Town Board, the Planning Board is to design an updated master plan document for acceptance and implementation by the Town Board. This document should be a design for the next 20 years and may include a modification of current area uses or densities, addition of new area categories, and the expansion of the current zoned area of the town. The Advisory Committees provide input from the public for this project and allow live dissemination of information about the projects to the town residents. An important adjunct to this process will be a plan for a distinct center for the Town of Lansing. This plan will be available to guide future boards and commercial developers, within the new zoning ordinance, when development of a town center becomes economically feasible. We recognize that our town will change and grow. Growth without a plan may cause us to lose the things that we enjoy now. PUBLIC HEARING, Steven Lucente, Village Circle, Tax Map #39.-1 .38.2, 38.12, and 38.7 Larry Sharpsteen read the public notice, opened the public hearing and 8:00 p. m ., and invited any questions or comments from the public present. Larry Fabbroni, representing Rocco and Steve Lucente, explained that this five-lot subdivision results from an action that the Zoning Board of Appeals took to allow 50 additional apartments to be built in this mufti-family area of town. The reason these lots weren't developed initially was because of the health department regulations at the time. Some of the changes that have occurred in the last 20 years which now • enable these apartments to be built are due to the availability of public water now, the expansion of the airport, and the industrial development of the surrounding area. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 3 Monday, May 10, 1993 As there were no questions or comments from the public present or from the Planning Board members, Linda Hirvonen made a motion to close the public hearing with the option to reopen if anyone from the public appears with questions regarding this proposal; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Linda Hirvonen made a motion to accept this subdivision as presented; Grace Haney seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SUBDIVISION , William Genung, Davis Road, Tax Map #10:1 .12.1 George Totman explained that Mr. Genung had given a piece of land to his daughter, but when they applied for a building permit, they were denied because the land hadn't been subdivided. Michael Hovanec, who is building the house for the Genung's, appeared before the Planning Board to answer any questions. The board members discussed that this is the first subdivision of that land, ft is a simple one-lot subdivision involving no new utilities or roads, and there is no detriment to the access of the land in back of this parcel. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. Since there seems to be no significant impact on the area, a negative SEQR, no new utilities or roads proposed for this subdivision, Linda Hirvonen made a motion to accept this subdivision as presented and waive the public hearing ; Viola Miller seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY PUBLIC HEARING, Michael Hovanec, Scofield Road, Tax Map #38.-1 -6 • Larry Sharpsteen read the public notice, opened the public hearing at 8: 15 p.m . , and invited any questions or comments from the public present. George Totman explained that he received a phone call from a neighbor, Mrs. Bark, who could not attend this meeting tonight. She was concerned about learning more details regarding this proposal. She lives on the southeast side of this subdivision. George Totman questioned Michael Hovanec as to what the deed restrictions are for this new subdivision . Mr. Hovanec responded that they are the same as for the original subdivision (no single-wide mobile homes, double- wide mobile homes are okay but the exterior must resemble pitched roofs, masonry-type skirting (vinyl skirting would not be allowed), and permanent foundations). Both Larry Sharpsteen and Linda Hirvonen agreed that the deed restrictions need to be submitted and kept in this subdivision file. Michael Hovanec responded that he will submit a copy of the deed restrictions to George Totman. George Totman pointed out that the Planning Board reviewed the SEQR on this parcel for the first subdivision, and didn't feel that the Planning Board needed to review another SEQR since it is the same property. Larry Sharpsteen and Viola Miller agreed. Viola Miller made a motion to close the public hearing ; Linda Hirvonen seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Lin Davidson made a motion to accept this final plat as presented; Grace Haney seconded. VOTE: 3 YES; 2 ABSTENTIONS; MOTION CARRIED • Roger Sovocool Possible Development Roger Sovocool explained that this proposal involves the area on Milliken Station Road to the power plant. He explained that Cornell University owns about 115 acres just south of Milliken Station Road, which runs from the Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 4 Monday, May 10, 1993 • railroad tracks easterly up to another parcel which Milliken owns. Mr. Sovocool explained that his father originally owned this land and had given it to Cornell University to use as apple orchards. Cornell University recently contacted Mr. Sovocool and explained that they were no longer going to proceed in this direction, and asked if they could sell the land for residential purposes. Mr. Sovocool explained that it wouldn't be a problem , but that he would rather see the property go to NYSEG. He explained that he has always been concerned that there would be too much development in that area which would affect the surrounding area and the water quality. He has spoken with Cornell University and explained that he will try to find someone to buy the property, but no one seems to want to buy the entire parcel. If NYSEG were to purchase the property, Mr. Sovocool would make ft heavily restricted and forever wild. NYSEG indicated that they didn't want to see that area heavily residential, but might want to use it as a buffer. He explained that he has had the land looked at for its value, and have offered it to NYSEG, which may or may not buy it. Another option that Mr. Sovocool explained is to divide the land along Milliken Station Road into five- acre parcels. Larry Sharpsteen questioned about the possibility that at some point the land across the road from Mr. Sovocool's property may be zoned heavy industrial, and what the impact would be on his property. Mr. Sovocool felt that these lots would have a limited value anyway. A third option would be to develop a private road and sell of three lots at the end of the private road. Larry Sharpsteen explained that both the Planning Board and the Town Board have a concern about development of access roads to property, and feels that this would be an opportune time since there will be developers on such a large parcel of land, to consider a link between Milliken Station Road and Algerine Road. Mr. Sovocool explained that he has spoken with Mr. Dunkelsbuehler, and is open to this possibility. Discussion included the potential buyer of the larger parcel belonging to Mr. Dunkelsbuehler, who might be willing • to develop a connecting road, if at some point she decides to subdivide that parcel. Larry Sharpsteen made a comment on behalf of himself and Robert Todd that they would like to see a large portion of that land go back on the public tax rolls. Linda Hirvonen liked Roger's original inclination about keeping that land forever wild. Roger Sovocool again discussed the issue of water. He explained that NYSEG is willing to extend the water line to the NYSEG plant. They have two different options for running the water lines, the first is along Ridge Road and the other would be down Lansing Station Road and across. He explained the proposal by NYSEG to charge for units (two-acre lots would be one unit, and a house would be another unit). He suggested to NYSEG to raise the acreage requirement to five acres. Larry Tvaroha clarified that if NYSEG paid for the entire water line extension, they would be able to prevent others from having access to it unless they were involved in a buy-back agreement. This buy-back agreement would have to be negotiated in the beginning stages of this extension. It would be public water, but NYSEG would be the only one in the district. SUBDIVISION, Melvin Brown , Goodman Road, Tax Map # Chip Landry appeared before the Planning Board on behalf of Melvin Brown to request approval of a four-lot subdivision of Mr. Brown's property on Goodman Road. Mr. Landry explained that the only deed restriction on the property is that there be no further subdivision allowed. Mr. Landry explained that they don't have a deed restriction on mobile homes because of the one abutting this proposed subdivision. Viola commented on the length of these lots, and her feeling is that it isn't the best use of the land. She also • commented that just because there is a mobile home bordering this parcel, it doesn't mean that there can 't be a restriction in the deed. Linda added that the Planning Board can't tell the developer or subdivider what restrictions to put in the deed, but they can offer suggestions. Larry Sharpsteen added that the back part of these lots is quite wet (too wet to build on), and to divide the land in any other manner wouldn't be feasible. Town of Lansing Planning Board Page 5 Monday, May 10, 1993 i• Linda concurred with Viola in that when there are long lots, such as the ones in this proposal, that they should be restricted from further subdivision. As has been the case most recently, owners of long lots such as these have been coming before the Planning Board and requesting approval of flaglots, which both Viola and Linda are very much against. Linda questioned the slope of the land since they weren 't presented with topography maps. Mr. Landry clarified that the land does slope back towards the stream away from the road. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration . Viola Miller made a motion to accept this preliminary plat and schedule a public hearing ; Grace Haney seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY A public hearing was scheduled for June 7, 1993, at 8:00 p.m. Stvo O is b ' Z u w e / gig 3 FURTHER BUSINESS Larry Sharpsteen called an Executive Session at 9:40 p. m . The regular session resumed at 10:00 p.m . Larry Sharpsteen commented that for Lansing Days, each committee should have a presentation prepared for the public to view. The public meeting to discuss "Lansing 2010" will be set for June 29 or 30. Cheryl indicated that Judy Saul will • most likely be leading this meeting . The meeting was adjourned at 10:08 p. m . 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