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TOWN ON LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING
March 08 , 1993
7 : 30 P . M .
Lansing Town Hall Boardroom
AGENDA
7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - General Business
® Approve Minutes of 2 / 8 / 93
8 : 00 P . M . Clifford Buck - Subdivision - 4 Lot
8 : 15 P . M . Barry Kasonic - Transonics Expansion
8 : 30 P . M . Update Subdivision Road Specs to Current
Approved Specs .
9 : 00 P . M . Any other business to come before the Board
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TOWN OF LANSING
Planning Board Meeting
Monday, March 8, 1993; 7:30 p.m.
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PLANNING BOARD
(* Denotes Members Present)
* Lin Davidson * Cheryl Nickel
* Grace Haney Larry Sharpsteen
Linda Hirvonen * Robert Todd
Viola Miller * Al White
* George Totman, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer
Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman
PUBLIC PRESENT
Clifford Buck 355 Conlon Road, Lansing, New York
Carl Drost 34 Dutch Mill Road, Lansing, New York
David Gross 34 Dutch Mill Road, Lansing, New York
Barry Kasonic 900 Taber Street, Ithaca, New York
Amanda Sturgill 2250 North Triphammer Road, Ithaca, New York
Vice Chairperson Robert Todd called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
• GENERAL BUSINESS
Robert Todd expressed his concern about the proposed development by the Jehovah's
Witness. He stated that he is pro-development. Since he makes a living as a farmer, he is
concerned that they are growing the same crops that he grows. They do not pay property
taxes, and this puts him in a competitive disadvantage growing the same crops. It bothers
him that they are putting a $36 million dollar complex on that land, and the town will not be
getting any property taxes from them.
Review of Minutes from Meeting held February 8, 1993
Al White moved to accept the minutes as presented; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN
FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Review of Summary from Public Meeting held February 18, 1993
Cheryl Nickel moved to accept the summary as presented, but leave the option open to
discuss the summary further at a later date; Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE: ALL IN
FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Review of Minutes from Meeting held February 22, 1993
Al White noted that Tom Neiderkorn was present at this meeting. Al White moved to accept
the minutes as corrected; Cheryl Nickel seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION
• CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
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® FURTHER BUSINESS
Cheryl Nickel commented that she met with the new director of the New York Planning
Federation who is very interested in the town's project. He recommended that the town
apply for the planning grant, which is for a sum of $5,000. This grant is funded by a private
foundation. The application deadline for this grant is April 1, 1993. For this grant Cheryl
proposes that the Planning Board submit a grant that focuses on: learning negotiating skills
as town board and planning board members; learning how to focus community and town
people's input in productive ways; and learning the means for getting communities to work
as volunteers to work positively and productively in town projects. Cheryl explained that
the money would be used, for example, to hire Judy Saul and the Community Dispute
Resolution Center to conduct the workshops to train the board members on the above issues.
Al White commented that based on several of the public meetings that he has attended, he
feels that there is a great deal of educating that needs to be done for the public. Grace
Haney responded as to the public meeting held to discuss rezoning of the airport zone. She
stated that based on feedback from people in the area that she had spoken to, they attended
that meeting to: get information and to question what kind of effect it has. Grace felt that
the information she had gained from the Planning Board meetings was that the concern was
for safety in the area, then at the public meeting the concern seemed to turn to preventing
any further development in that area. She felt that the Town Board and the Planning Board
need to get their information straight before they go to the public with information.
• George Totman introduced Amanda Sturgill who is a graduate student at Cornell University
and is majoring in planning. Ms. Sturgill was just sitting in on the meeting.
Cheryl Nickel commented that the Economic Development Committee has already met, and
that as part of the education process, she would like to see an expert in the fields of each of
the committees come to the meetings and give the members some background. Robert Todd
explained that Larry Sharpsteen held the Economic Development Committee meeting, and
brought in Tom Neiderkorn to explain the master plan and the present zoning that already
exists. Robert Todd stated that he will be calling Tom Neiderkorn to come to the Agriculture
Resources Committee meeting and give a background on that topic.
FOUR-LOT SUBDIVISION, Clifford Buck, Buck Road, Tax Map #27-1-26.2
Clifford Buck appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a four-lot
subdivision of his property on Buck Road. Al White questioned how many subdivisions Mr.
Buck has made in the past three years. George Totman responded that this would be the
third division in three years on that particular lot. This subdivision will require no new
utilities or roads.
Al White moved to accept this proposed subdivision as a preliminary plat and to schedule a
public hearing; Grace Haney seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY
A public hearing was scheduled for April 12, 1993, at 8:00 p.m.
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The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration.
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• Proposed Transonics Expansion, Barry Kasonic
Barry Kasonic appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a 24,000 square
foot expansion to the current 9,600 square foot Transonics building. Robert Todd wanted to
clarify that since this is a Planned Development Area (PDA) it is required to be brought
before the Planning Board. Mr. Kasonic presented several maps of the proposal.
Al White moved to accept the proposed changes to the PDA for the expansion; Lin Davidson
seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Update Subdivision Road Specifications to Current Approved Specifications
George Totman explained that the current subdivision regulations pertaining to road
specifications call for a cul-de-sac, which does not match the specifications that were passed
by the Highway Department in 1991 , which call for an L turnaround. He explained that he
brought this discrepancy to the Town Board suggesting that there be one set of rules
regarding road specifications. The Town Board agreed to suggest that they take the
specification out of their subdivision rules and change them to reflect Pete Larson's
suggestions. Then depending on the lay of the land, the specifications could be changed at
that time. George Totman suggested that the subdivision rules read that the specifications
would be dependent upon the Town Superintendent and the Town Engineer.
George explained that it is appropriate that the Planning Board make a recommendation to
411 the Town Board to change the subdivision regulations. George clarified that this
recommendation would be to change the wording in #8 of the town specifications to coincide
with the recommendations from the Town Highway Superintendent, and in the subdivision
regulations to take out any references as to how the turnarounds should be designed, and
state that they should refer to the Town Highway Superintendent for specifications.
Robert Todd wondered if there would be a problem by leaving this regulation open ended.
George Totman responded that he felt it was a bigger problem leaving the regulation the
way it is currently stated. Al White agreed that cul-de-sacs are a problem for snow removal
in this type of climate. Al White moved to adopt the recommendations of the Highway
Superintendent, and set a public hearing if needed; Cheryl Nickel seconded. VOTE: ALL IN
FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
FURTHER BUSINESS
Grace Haney questioned, as chairperson of the Publicity/Communications Committee, how
information from the Planning Board is going to get funneled to her committee and then on
to the public. She suggested that the chairperson of each committee on a monthly basis
provide information to her committee so it can distribute that information as the committee
see appropriate. She wondered what the Planning Board had in mind when they created
these committees, and what they saw happening with the Publicity/Communications
Committee. She was looking for some guidelines to go by when she meets with the people
who signed up for her committee.
• Robert Todd commented that after the public meeting on February 18, 1993, he got the
feeling that the public doesn't know what the function is of the Planning Board and the
Town Board. The community seemed bothered that there were events happening that they
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had no information on, such as the purchase of the state land and the development of the
prison.
Grace sees two things that the Publicity/Communications Committee will be doing: (1 )
pulling information off the other committees and reporting to the public; and (2) addressing
things that people are in the dark about or only have bits and pieces of information. She felt
that the committee needs to be pro-active in getting the information out to the public.
George Totman commented that since the February 18 public meeting, the number of people
that have come to his office with questions and concerns has increased, and that just by
letting the public know that all the information is public has helped some. George added
that of all the towns in Tompkins County, Lansing is the only town that sends out a
quarterly newsletter.
Robert Todd agreed with Grace's recommendation that the chairs of each committee provide
some type of report to Grace after their meetings. He also agreed with George Totman that
Grace's committee should put a half-page or full page of information into the town
newsletter each quarter.
Grace also commented that she felt the Planning Board should keep some kind of control
over the committees in that it should set deadlines. Cheryl Nickel responded that the
tentative deadline for some completion is the beginning of October, before the Planning
Federation meets. Cheryl explained that she will be making a presentation to the Planning
• Federation as to the progress that has been made. From the committees, Cheryl is expecting
to have the comprehensive plan and the direction the town is going.
Al White moved to adjourn the meeting; Cheryl Nickel seconded. The meeting was
adjourned at 8:56 p.m.
The next meeting is scheduled for March 22, 1993, at 7:30 p.m .
Submitted by Michelle Eastman
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