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Home My WebLink About1992-09-14 To Seneca Falls To Auburn I _ [� _ '\ � ' ' R' - TOWN of LA N S I NG ze`Illi " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " .4 itt--Ir 11: . Town of Lansing ORDINANCE DEPT. \\ �I Box 186 \ I' Lansing, New York 14882 y . To Ithaca LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING D ate : September 14 , 1992 Time : 7 : 30 P . M . P lace : Lansing Town Hall Board Room AGENDA — 7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - General Business Approve Minutes 8 / 10 / 92 lb Q . ff � . M . g T�ubl 4 T� ,= ? r _ m — ^ r : `� 7 - Ct_r i t S - en 3 Lot Subdivision Tax Map # 48 . - 1 - 4 8 : 15 P . M . Public Hearing - Viola Miller 3 Lot Subdivision Tao Math # 44 . - -- 4 = . 7, 8 : 30 P . M . Public Hearing - Douglas Harris r . s 3 Lot Subdivision Tax Map # 25 . - 1 - 7 . 6 8 : 45 P . M . 2 Lot Subdivision - Alice Olsefski Tax Map # 44 . - 1 - 33 . 2 9 : 00 P . M . Sketch Plan Review Major Subdivision G eorge Schlec ^ t - rax Map # 44 . - 1 - 28 9 : 15 P . M . Sketch Plan Review Major Subd , vsrcn P eter Duenkelsbueher - Tax Map # 12 . - 1 - 23 . 2 9 : 30 P . M . 2 Lot Subdivision - Charles Nedrow Tax Map # 16 . - 1 - 8 . 2 9 : 45 P . M . 2 Lot Subdivision - James & Jean McIntyre Agent - Lenore Fleming 411 Tax Map # 26 . - 4 - 11 10 : 00 P . M . Any other business to come before the Board . 09 , / 9 < qa ietalew 014 ic. #7 ,vS ®ir 9 1 ,9 ,v d mi, , -111! .. _ _ _ -� .m ._c_ _ . ... .____._ . . _. ... . . ._ ._ _ ._. . .- _ . .�. . _ . _ - _ . _d Jet - -- - _— .____._._. fl g' . ff , ,1 2 3 /r3�, 9 ,� . ,• l J , 1 1 (7 l � . � " C. 5 I /T ms4 , 61 a & f;' pv f Dj' , LIA'y , A/ j ,/;4615,:).--) 4 h IL - - ;� - `� _ F; ,� c� V. r h e 0/ /t1,4/t 1, . / 6 4. 6 eZ , = 4 ,4ditie, .retE. A) /Vi ) S - uv:=06igg S y • e co e askr �_et �` jt o l . 1. aca . 1.LKA a v i Y 1 Ni. n FiA �4- T' ` ` _r A f-. �V i- , 9101 ‘ ,, .(4\1-- •3\f4-0,_A -n, 1 � �lla i 1 Ll v V ' ��l� i 2 1 C V ), r_!‘1/4‘,,, t1 ( \a. \) ,R0� + ; (9 Lo , ,-\ �, , •g, L C� Y tP- I `t< . 1lk r ; '4 ii ' ( j -A34I; 1 �� - -e , N �6) .,,,,,-70: r 1)0 ? ca.'j%l722--; �� / 5 / 4 1 t0 I , ®s 20 1 / 2s ; 23 ; icr 1. 7 2y 15 Jo 3/ i2 3g \ . / ;!1$1"3 3 ? • • TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Meeting Monday, September 14, 1992, 7 :30 p. m. PLANNING BOARD * Denotes Present Roger Hagin Cheryl Nickel Grace Haney Larry Sharpsteen Linda Hirvonen Robert Todd Viola Miller - Al White George Totman , Planning , Zoning , and Code Administration Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT Grace Allen Lenore Fleming Alice Olsefski Liz Biss Mark Keller George Schlecht Carol Devine Charles M . Nedrow Jim Sethra • Alan E. Euvrard Sheila Nedrow Allan Warshawsky Chairperson Linda Hirvonen called the meeting to order at 7 :37 p . m . Review of Planning Board Minutes from August, 10, 1992 Roger Hagin moved to accept the minutes as presented ; Viola Miller seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY GENERAL BUSINESS Linda Hirvonen began by discussing the letter she had written to Tom Neiderkorn as a follow up to the input from the Town Board and a committee meeting held. She asked the Planning Board members that if any further information need to be included in this letter to let her know as soon as possible . Linda went on to discuss Town Law 280A in regard to subdivisions on unimproved streets , which are private roads that are not built specifically to town specifications or have not been dedicated to the Town . Linda stated that according to Town Law, there can only be four lots on an unimproved street, provided there is a 60-foot right of way to a highway or a town street. The Planning Board can approve a subdivision on an • unimproved street , but the Town Board will have to pass a resolution after the Planning Board has approved the subdivision . f v TWO- LOT SUBDIVISION, Charles Nedrow, Davis Road, Tax Map #16.-1 -8 . 2 • Charles Nedrow appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a two-lot subdivision of his property on Davis Road . He plans on giving the smaller lot as a wedding gift to his son . Linda Hirvonen questioned Mr. Nedrow as to if he has subdivided any of his land in the past . Mr. Nedrow responded that he has not . The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration . It was recognized that it is the responsibility of the realtors or the person selling the land that is in the agriculture district , to notify the Town that it is being subdivided . Viola Miller moved to accept the subdivision as presented and to waive the public hearing ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY P UBLIC HEARING , Grace Allen , East Shore Drive, Tax Map #48 .- 1 -4 Linda Hirvonen read the public notice published in the Ithaca Journal , opened the public hearing at 8 :00 p. m . , and invited questions or comments from the public present . As there were no members of the public with any questions regarding this subdivision , Roger Hagin moved to close the public hearing at 8 :05 p . m . , subject to • reopening if anyone appears with questions ; Grace Haney seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ✓ iola Miller moved to approve this subdivision ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY P UBLIC HEARING , Viola Miller, Horizon Drive, Tax Map #44 .-1 -43 . 2 Linda Hirvonen read the public notice published in the Ithaca Journal , opened the public hearing at 8 : 15 p. m . , and invited questions or comments from the public present. Carol Devine and Jim Sethra own the property that is identified as "The Learning Web" on the proposed subdivision map. Their concern is with the drainage ditch that drains their property , which runs across the proposed subdivision . They are asking that that ditch stay open , and stated that they have expressed this concern to Viola , and just wanted to register this concern with the Planning Board . Viola Miller added that she has assured them that it will remain open and that anyone buying the lot has to know that the drainage ditch is there . Mr. Setha expressed his concern that the drainage ditch frequently fills up , and that he currently goes and shovels the ditch out , and is concerned with what the new owners will think of this . Linda Hirvonen stated • .3 1111 that the new owners will have to deal with the drainage , and not cause any problems for the Devine/Setha property or any other property. Grace Haney moved to close the public hearing ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY - One Abstention (Viola Miller) Roger Hagin moved to accept this subdivision ; Grace Haney seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY - One Abstention (Viola Miller) PUBLIC HEARING , Douglas Harris , Dandyview Heights , Tax Map #25.-1 -7. 6 Linda Hirvonen read the public notice published in the Ithaca Journal , opened the public hearing at 8 :30 p. m . , and invited questions or comments from the public present . As there were no members of the public present with questions regarding this subdivision , Cheryl Nickel moved to close the public hearing subject to reopening if anyone appears with questions ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Viola Miller moved to approve this subdivision ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY • THREE- LOT SUBDIVISION , Alice Olsefski , Cherry Road , Tax Map #44.-1 -33. 2 Alice Olsefski and Allan Warshawsky , the real estate agent representing Ms . Olsefski , appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a three - lot subdivision of property belonging to Ms . Olsefski located on Cherry Road . On Lot One , there is a proposed water line going in , but it will be written into the deed . Viola Miller questioned Ms. Olsefski as to whether she has plans to further subdivide the land the remainder of her land behind these three lots in the future. Mr. Warshawsky responded that Ms. Olsefski 's intentions were to at some point sell the remaining lot as a whole with the house on it . Roger Hagin clarified that these lots would be outside of the airport hazard zone . Roger Hagin questioned the poor drainage on these lots . Linda Hirvonen added that there is public water available. Viola Miller questioned the width of these lots as compared to other lots that Ms. Olsefski had sold previously on Cherry Road . Mr. Warshawsky responded that the other lots were approximately 300 feet wide , where these are 100 feet wide. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration . A public hearing was scheduled for October 12 , 1992 , at 8 :00 p . m . , subject to approval • of the Planning Board . tx Viola Miller commented that she is very concerned that no provision has been made • for a road going to the back of her property. The Planning Board agreed that since Ms . Olsefski has in the past subdivided several other lots , they would ask her to put in a right-of-way to the back boundary of her property to assist the Planning Board with their master plan and paper roads . The Planning Board is concerned that all of the land behind this proposed subdivision is being cut off. Linda Hirvonen clarified that if indeed Ms. Olsefski wishes to subdivide , that it must be considered a major subdivision . S KETCH PLAN REVIEW, Elizabeth Biss , Tax Map #44 .-1 -28 G eorge Schlecht appeared before the planning board representing Elizabeth Biss , to review a sketch plan for a 17- lot subdivision of her property off of Bean Hill Road and Stormy View Road . This proposed subdivision would require the extension of Bean H ill Road and Stormy View Road , which are currently dead ends . These new extension will provide a turnaround area and an area for future road extension . This area is serviced by public water and the water lines would be extended . The area is well drained , but of the some of the drainage ditches will need some attention , which will be given . This entire proposed subdivision is in the airport hazard zone . This is a medium -density residential zone . Linda Hirvonen commented that this proposed subdivision fits in well with the plans of the Planning Board . Linda added that she is pleased to see the turnarounds so that the roads could be continued for any future . development. Linda Hirvonen stated to Elizabeth Biss that this proposal will need some more review and discussion by this Planning Board , since the Planning Board is currently working on a master plan and new zoning areas. Linda questioned Ms . Biss as to natural hedgerows or large trees that might be utilized . Mr. Schlecht responded that the majority of the property is overgrown , thick brush where there are both hedgerows and trees . The majority of the larger trees are on Lot One . Mr. Schlecht stated that he would like to hear comments from the Planning Board as to the sketch plan before he goes any further with completing the plan (e . g . , the turnarounds) . Grace Haney commented that there is drainage that comes underground from the Anderson lot onto Lot 14. Linda commented to Mr. Schlecht that one thing the Planning Board will request is that a drainage plan be developed and presented to the Planning Board as well as to the Town Engineer prior to approval of this proposed subdivision . Larry Tvaroha questioned where the current roads end . It was determined that the roads currently end approximately 20 feet before the boundary. Larry Tvaroha's concern was with who will be responsible for the construction of that 20 feet. George Totman clarified with the Planning Board for Mr. Schlecht ' s benefit , that they generally accept this sketch plan with the recommendation that Mr. Schlecht go back to the 1111 Town Engineer and Highway Department for their comments about the roads and drainage . SKETCH PLAN REVIEW, Peter. Duenkeisbuehler, Aigerine Road , Tax Map #12.-1 - 23 . 2 George Schlecht appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a five-lot subdivision . Linda Hirvonen addressed to Mr. Schlecht the Town Law #280A that - states that there cannot be any more than four lots on an undeveloped/private road , without getting into a homeowners association . Linda clarified that this sketch plan is actually six lots since the remaining land is considered a lot. Viola questioned how long the private road was , to which Mr. Schlecht responded approximately 5 ,000 feet. Roger Hagin commented that this sketch plan differs from the original plan in that it doesn 't have the access to the private road from the lake frontage road , which would have been used as an emergency access road . George Totman stated that he has expressed to Mr. Duenkeisbuehler that he should get a letter from the fire department stating that they won 't have a problem getting to the houses down the private road . Roger Hagin suggested putting in a paper across the Adams' property so that in the future if there were any development , the developers would see what the Planning • Board has in mind . George Schlecht asked the Planning Board whether they would consider a four-lot subdivision on a private road , and that if in the future more development was done , the road would be brought up to town specifications and be dedicated ; or whether the Planning Board would recognize a four- lot subdivision on a public road , which would be a long dead-end road. Linda Hirvonen didn 't feel that the Planning Board could go any further without more topography being done . She is concerned with the design of the road , e . g . the grade. Linda Hirvonen was concerned that Karl Dates , the original subdivider, had already cut through the road before bringing the subdivision to the Planning Board . She stated that the Planning Board does have certain design standards that it can exercise , and if the Planning Board feels that it is not in the best interest of any future residents of that area, the Planning board can request changes. George Totman clarified that if Mr. Duenkeisbuehler brings the entire road up to Town specifications , he can ask for a major subdivision for the rest of his lots because it will be a public road . TWO- LOT SUBDIVISION , James and Jean McIntyre, Lakeview Drive, Tax Map #26 .-4- 11 • Lenore Fleming appeared before the Planning Board representing Mr. and Mrs . McIntyre to request approval of a two-lot subdivision of their property on Lakeview J Drive . This lot was, atone point , two separate lots . Mr. and Mrs. McIntyre are now • asking that it be divided back into the two separate , original lots . The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration . Viola Miller moved to accept this proposed two-lot subdivision and to waive the public hearing ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY FURTHER BUSINESS • Viola Miller commented that the meetings for the State Planning Federation will be at Niagara Falls during the weekend of November 8 , 9 , and 10 - Sunday , Monday, and Tuesday. Linda Hirvonen added that the Town has money in its budget for this meeting , and encouraged anyone that wants to attend to do so . There being no further business , the Planning Board meeting was adjourned at 10 :30 p . m . Respectfully submitted , • )14-G•GWie.) , Michelle R . Eastman Next Planning Board Meeting: Monday, September 28, 1992; 7:30 p.m. •