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Home My WebLink About1992-08-10 To Seneca Falls I To Auburn _ 111— \ 4 TOWN of LANSING c; 7ti...... , } of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " II ril1 c . " Home ( -- � 1 e. a Town of Lansing ` � ' 1111 ORDINANCE DEPT. ` �` 1I\ Box 186 , Lansing, New York 14882 �, , ii To Ithaca LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Date : August 10 , 1992 Time : 7 : 30 P . M . Place : Lansing Town Hall Board Room AGENDA 7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - General Business • Approve Minutes 07 / 13 / 92 8 : 00 P . M . Public Hearing - Burris SUBDIVISION Armstrong Road Tax Map # 38 . - 1 - 16 . 2 8 : 15 P . M . Earl Carpenter - Two Lot SUBDIVISION Tax Map # 40 . - 1 - 2 8 : 30 P . M . Grace Allen - Three Lot SUBDIVISION Tax Map # 48 . - 1 - 4 8 : 45 P . M . Viola Miller - Three Lot SUBDIVISION Tax Map 444 . - 1 - 43 . 2 9 : 00 P . M . Doug Harris - Three Lot SUBDIVISION Tax Map # 25 . - 1 - 7 . 6 9 : 15 P . M . Any other business to come before the Board . 0 • TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Meeting Monday, August 10, 1992 ; 7 :30 p.m. PLANNING BOARD Denotes Present * Roger Hagin Cheryl Nickel * Grace Haney * Larry Sharpsteen Linda Hirvonen * Robert Todd * Viola Miller Mullane Al White * George Totman, Planning , Zoning , and Code Administration * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT Grace Allen Ivan Burris Earl Carpenter Kathy Carpenter William Fenton Marjorie Keor Mark Seller • Acting Chairperson Larry Sharpsteen called the meeting to order at 7:35 p. m . Review of Planning Board Minutes from July 131 1992 Page Three, Thayer Subdivision, Third Paragraph, Second Sentence. Larry Sharpsteen felt the sentence should read "this subdivision meets all subdivision requirements." Page Five, Rau Resolution. This is not a subdivision, it requires only acknowledgement by resolution . Viola Miller moved to accept the minutes as corrected ; Roger Hagin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY GENERAL BUSINESS George Totman identified an incorrect statement in the minutes of the Planning Board Meeting held June 8 in the Hovanec Subdivision. He felt it should read that no mobile homes would be allowed , and that double wides would be permitted meeting state rules and regulations . Grace Haney reported that she had spoken with Linda Hirvonen regarding the amount of money allotted for the tabulation of the surveys, to which Linda had given Grace verbal approval for up to $200 for the surveys. Grace also explained that the person performing the tabulations is still working on them . The Planning Board members discussed neighborhood meetings and the general feeling was that they need to have a plan developed to support their decisions. This way there would be something to take to the neighborhood meetings and to get feedback on . Larry Sharpsteen agreed that the public has to be educated on zoning. Larry Tvaroha suggested that the Planning Board talk with the Town of Groton • Planning Board to see how they differ from Lansing in their zoning regulations . • PUBLIC HEARING, Ivan Burris, Armstrong Road, Tax Map #38:1 -16.2 Larry Sharpsteen read the public notice published in the Ithaca Journal , opened the public hearing at 8:00 p.m . , and invited questions or comments from the public present. Mr. Burris briefly presented a map and explained his plan for this subdivision . He stated that each parcel will own a piece of the pond and the owners would be required to maintain their own piece of the pond. Viola Miller moved to close the public hearing with the option to reopen if members of the public appear with questions ; Roger Hagin seconded . Viola Miller moved to accept this subdivision as presented ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY TWO-LOT SUBDIVISION, Earl Carpenter, Horvath Road, Tax Map #40:1 .2 Earl and Kathy Carpenter appeared before the planning board to request a two-lot subdivision of their property on Hovarth Road . Mr. Carpenter explained that he and his wife had bought the land with the buildings and then built a house behind the buildings. He also stated that they would like to separate the property with the house from the business. George Totman stated that the property would be worth more if it went all the way to the road , which would make the other lot a flaglot. Viola Miller agreed stating that the driveway should be part of the back lot. Grace Haney asked if the garages were "lost" in the future , would a house have to be built on the front lot. George Totman explained that a house would not have to be put on it - it would be grandfathered so the use would need to be the same. If the business wasn't used for a year, then it couldn't even used for the same thing after that. Mr. Carpenter stated that the • house and the business each have their own driveways. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration . Viola Miller moved to accept this two-lot subdivision with the front lot being a flaglot and to waive the public hearing ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY THREE-LOT SUBDIVISION, Grace Allen, East Shore Drive, Tax Map #48 .1 .4 Grace Allen appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a three-lot subdivision of her property on East Shore Drive. She stated that she had bought the property and that an area variance had been granted in 1979. Due to the landscape of the property, these are three non-conforming lots . These three parcels currently have sewer and water. George Totman explained that the variances are still valid . The Planning Board reviewed the SEAR and received a negative declaration . Roger Hagin moved to accept this final plat and to schedule a public hearing for September 14, 1992, at 8 :00 p. m . ; Viola Miller seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 2 • THREE-LOT SUBDIVISION , Viola Miller, Horizon Drive, Tax Map #44.-1 -43.2 Viola Miller appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a three-lot subdivision of her property on Horizon Drive . She stated that she would like to sell the lots since they fit in well with the area. There already is water, gas , and sewer available . The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration . Cheryl Nickel moved to accept this preliminary plat and to schedule a public hearing for September 14, 1992, at 8 : 15 p. m . ; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; Viola Miller Abstained During the course of discussions, the Planning Board recognized that the current subdivision regulations state that the lot size can be smaller if there is public sewer available, but instead should say public water. In order to correct this error in the subdivision regulations, the Planning Board needs to make a recommendation to the Town Board. THREE-LOT SUBDIVISION, Doug Harris, Dandyview Heights, Tax Map #25.-1 -7.6 Mark Keller, from Gallagher Real Estate representing Doug Harris, appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a three-lot subdivision of property on Dandyview Heights . Mr. Keller explained that all the lots contain sufficient road frontage and lot size, and all would have single-family homes. • The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration . Roger Hagin moved to accept this preliminary plat contingent upon the public hearing and the completion of the survey; Robert Todd seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY A public hearing was scheduled for September 14, 1992, at 8 :30 p. m . FURTHER BUSINESS • Regarding the zoning information received from Tom Neiderkorn , Viola Miller noted that there are already two houses on the corner of Cherry Lane and Bush Lane. She suggested putting the boundary behind their properties so they will be able to sell at some point in the future. Larry Sharpsteen stated that the subcommittee will meet with Tom again before the next meeting with the Planning Board . Viola suggested asking Dr. Freedman if his acreage to the west of the airport could be put in the industrial area. Cheryl Nickel suggesting having a joint meeting with the Town Board and the Planning Board to discuss the new zoned areas. Larry Tvaroha agreed, but would like to have all the information together before the public hearings . Roger Hagin questioned part-town zoning and whether changes can be made to the presently zoned areas until the state votes . Viola commented that right now the State has passed a law that allows the Town of Lansing to have part-town zoning . This law allows for the expansion of existing zoned areas. 3 • • It was agreed that the first priority of the Planning Board is to reclass presented zoned areas by the end of the year. The second priority is expansion of zoned areas, then Site Plan Review. Larry Tvaroha commented that the Town Board has a problem with Site Plan Review. Larry Sharpsteen suggested having Tom explain it to the Town Board . Viola stated that Site Plan Review is too arbitrary and doesn't feel the public would like that. Cheryl stated to perhaps use Site Plan Review in some of the zoning issues, i.e. Town Center, Airport, "visual gateways". Larry Tvaroha added that the Town Board is concerned with the principle of Site Plan Review and what it has done in the City of Ithaca. Larry Tvaroha commented that the budgets are due by August 21 to Sharon Bowman . Larry Sharpsteen suggested a modest increase . It was decided that the Committee would meet and discuss anticipated anticipated expenditures for next year with Tom . Larry Tvaroha stated that the purchase of the state land is still in the process of being finalized . He also stated that a new Town Hall will need to be built because the old Town Hall won't pass inspection . Some areas he requested assistance from the Planning Board are : the idea of payed planners in the future, how many offices will the new building need to accommodate future needs, the size of the new building . Larry Tvaroha discussed the Myers Bridge repair that in progress. He stated that the Town was going to replace the decking , but after several inspections, the entire bridge and eye beams need to be replaced . The cost is now near $600 ,000 for repairs . These monies will be coming from the County, but this bridge will be put on a list and may not be repaired before 1994-95. Larry Tvaroha commented that the Town will be pushing to get the bridge repaired as soon as possible . Scenarios will be presented such as what 111 if the high bridge failed over Salmon Creek, all traffic would have to go through Ludlowville . Larry Tvaroha also commented that the Town has been contacted as to their interest in having the Masonic Temple/Lodge moved from North Lansing to the new town land as part of the Town Center and asked for the Planning Board to think about this . There being no further business, the Planning Board meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m . Respectfully submitted, i Je< _ / i Michelle R . Eastman Next Planning Board Meeting: Monday, September 14, 1992; 7:30 p.m. • 4