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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-06-08 To Seneca Falls To Auburn �Ci? \ ). TOWN of LANSING 4 11 " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " k � b M f `bi 4 { � bP: � Neku • 9 • ` `4„ 1111 Town of Lansing ORDINANCE DEPT. Box 186 �� l Lansing, New York 14882 I � To Ithaca LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING , MONDAY , JUNE 8 , 1992 ; 7 : 30 P . M . LANSING TOWN HALL • AGENDA 7 : 30 OPEN MEETING - GENERAL BUSINESS - APPROVE MINUTES 5 / 11 / 92 MEETING BOUNDARY CHANGE - WILLIAM EARL G . MUNSON - 2 LOT SUBDIVISION ( GORDON THAYER ESTATE , 2 - 1 - 10 , 1669 RIDGE ROAD ) 8 : 00 PUBLIC HEARING - ROGER HAGIN SUBDIVISION ( 39 - 1 - 7 . 2 , ASBURY & WARREN ROADS ) 8 : 15 PUBLIC HEARING — M . HOVANEC SUBDIVISION ( 38 - 1 - 6 , PERUVILLE & SCOFIELD ROADS ) 8 : 30 JOHN HICKS — 1 LOT SUBDIVISION ( 42 - 1 - 1 . 1 ) 8 : 45 CAL WARREN - 2 LOT SUBDIVISION ( ART SINGER ) 9 : 00 REVIEW - FORD HILL SUBDIVISION ( STEVE WHITE , 9 - 1 - 13 ) 9 : 15 MEET WITH TOM NIEDERKORN • • TOWN OF LANSING • Planning Board Meeting Monday, June 8, 1992; 7:30 p.m. PLANNING BOARD *Denotes Present * Grace Haney * Cheryl Nickel • * Roger Hagin * Larry Sharpsteen * Linda Hirvonen * Robert Todd Viola Miller Mullane Al White * George Totman, Planning, Zoning, and Code Administration * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT James Adams Sandra Bascom Monica Carey Bill Earl David Eastman Julietta Eastman Michael Hovanec Glenn P. Munson Barbara S. Policay Duane C. Ray Nancy Sterling John Sterling Lois Thomas Paul Thomas Vernard R Tusk Cal Warren Jackie Warner • Chairperson Linda Hirvonen opened the meeting at 7: 30 p . m . Review of Planning Board Minutes from Meeting held May 11 , 1992 Page Four, Hagin Subdivision . Al White felt that it should be stated that Roger Hagin was the person who abstained . Al White moved to accept the minutes as corrected; Roger Hagin seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ONE- LOT SUBDIVISION, William Earl, East Shore Drive , Tax #37 . 1 -1 -9 . 1 William Earl appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a one-lot subdivision of his property on East Shore Drive. Mr. Earl informed the Planning Board that this property had previously been approved for a one-lot subdivision on 2 / 5 / 90 , but that it was never recorded at the County Courthouse. He stated that this subdivision is now being resubmitted because the lot size is being increased by one acre, but that it bias not yet been surveyed . George Totman commented that any subdivision under five aeres does not have to be approved by the County. He just sees this as a boundary change from the original subdivision . Mr. Earl stated that the original subdivision was surveyed . It was clarified that . a public hearing was held for the previous subdivision . Larry Sharpsteen wanted to know if the original subdivision was signed by the Chairman . Larry Sharpsteen went on to stated that • under both the old and the new subdivision regulations, an approved subdivision must be filed within 60 days or it is null and void. Linda Hirvonen then stated that a new one-lot subdivision will need to be done for this requested subdivision. 41 Larry Sharp Steen moved to accept this one-lot subdivision as corrected and to waive the public hearing, since one had been held for the original subdivision; Roger Hagin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Linda Hirvonen informed William Earl that before final approval can be given, a survey will need to be completed and must be submitted for her signature. ONE-LOT SUBDIVISION, Gordon Thayer, Ridge Road, Tax #2-1-10 Glenn P. Munson appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a one-lot subdivision of the property of Gordon Thayer. He stated that there are no new utilities or roads involved, that this is just a division of land. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. Roger Hagin moved to accept this preliminary plat as presented; Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY ► 5 A public hearing was scheduled for July :- , 1992, at 8:00 p.m. ONE-LOT SUBDIVISION, John Hicks, Waterwagon Road , Tax #42-1-1.1 John Hicks appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a one-lot subdivision of his property on Waterwagon Road. He stated that he is in the process of refinancing his property, and a requirement of the bank is that the parcel with the small house on it be divided from the larger parcel. The small house was built in 1987 with funding from the Farmer's Home Administration, who holds the mortgage for that property. The Planning Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. Al White moved to accept this one-lot subdivision and to waive the public hearing; Roger Hagin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY PUBLIC HEARING, THREE-LOT SUBDIVISION, Roger Hagin, Asbury Road and Warren Road, Tax #39-1-7.2 Linda Hirvonen read the public notice published in the Ithaca Journal, opened the public hearing at 8:00 p.m., and invited any questions from the public present. Roger Hagin briefly explained his proposal for the three-lot subdivision. He described his reasoning for the division since the water district makes farming the land not profitable. David Eastman, who owns property two lots down from Hagin's property, expressed his concern about the drainage water and his hopes that the drainage doesn' t come out on Warren Road. John Sterling, who owns most of the land bordering Roger Hagin's, stated • 2 that he is not against the subdivision, but is concerned with the water in the diversionditch which covers this property. He wants the water to continue to Asbury Road since there is 14, • already a clear path for the water. Roger Hagin stated that he would not impede the water problem, but might even improve it. John Sterling stated that he would like to see the ditch • moved because it is in the back 1 1 / 2 acres of his property, which he currently can't use because it is too wet. Cleryl Nickel asked Roger Hagin how long the drainage has been there. Roger Hagin responded that it is an old railroad bed which has been there since the 1870's. John Sterling stated that the drainage ditch carries a lot of water. • Barbara Policay, who owns property directly adjacent to the south, questioned Roger Hagin about any future plans to put a driveway out onto Warren Road through the right-of-way he is retaining. Roger Hagin stated that his intention is just to retain the right-of-way and not to put in a driveway for the near future. Barbara Policay responded by suggesting to Roger Hagin that were he to put in a driveway, that he put the • drainage on the north side of the driveway instead of along her property. John Sterling and Roger Hagin both agreed that any drainage problems on Mr. Sterling's property could be dealt with between them privately. Linda Hirvonen stated that any unnatural drainage on another property caused by the subdivision of this property needs to be dealt with. a Linda Hirvonen closed the public hearing at 8: 17 p.m. For clarification it was stated that the tax map number used to advertise the public hearing was correct, but that the one used on the maps presented during the presentation is not correct. Larry Sharpsteen moved to waive the requirement for 150 feet of road frontage and lot size of 30,000 square feet for this three-lot subdivision on Warren Road, because water is available, there is a 60 foot right-of-way adjacent to this subdivision and it is in keeping with development in the area; Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY - One Abstention, Roger Hagin PUBLIC HEARING, Michael Hovanec, Peruville Road, Tax Map #38-1-6 l Linda Hirvonen read the public notice published in the Ithaca Journal, opened the public hearing at 8:20 p .m., and invited any questions from the public present. Jackie Warner, who lives across the road from this proposed development, wanted to know how many houses were going to be built. Michael Hovanec briefly described the subdivision plan, which includes initially eight lots. He informed them that this will be done in two phases, the first phase includes eight lots, the second phase could include seven more. He went on to state that the value of the houses to be built would probably be in the range of $75,000 - 80,000 and that there would be deed restrictions on each property for such things as no mobile homes or double wides. Linda Hirvonen explained to the public that the Board's concern with this proposed subdivision was with the large number of curb cuts and the increased traffic that would result on Scoffield Road. She also stated that this subdivision approval process is only for approval of Phase One, and that Mr. Hovanec will have to go through another approval process to get Phase Two approved. • 3 Linda Hirvonen closed the public hearing at 8:27 p.m. For clarification, Linda Hirvonen had read the public notice stating that this is a preliminary plat, but was corrected to state that this is a final plat. Al White moved to accept this final plat as presented; Robert Todd seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Cheryl Nickel, Lansing Day, Tune 13, 1992 Cheryl Nickel stated that she has been working of a visual display of her concept of a 'Town Center" to be presented at the upcoming Lansing Day celebration, June 13, 1992. She stated that her display will consist of approximately six photos /maps, which will depict Lansing's past, e. g. Ludlowville, and other town centers. She stated that she would describe the Elmira Road development and how Lansing will eventually become an extension of Ithaca. The Town Center will demand that all traffic be slowed down and that curb cuts be reduced u- • getting neighborhoods off the main streets. She described a 'Town Green" around the Town Hall. There would be a concentration of senior housing so that they can walk to the grocery • store and park. The ball fields would be moved across the street. Linda Hirvonen commented that she had received the final report from Robin Blakely on the surveys, focus groups, and interviews which were conducted to find out the community's attitudes toward a town center and other town-related issues. This information will be shared at the next Planning Board meeting. • BOUNDARY CHANGE and ONE-LOT SUBDIVISION, East Shore Drive, Gary Argetsinger, Tax Map #37.1-2-53 .2 Cal Warren appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a boundary change and a one-lot subdivision for property belonging to Gary Argetsinger on East Shore Drive. Mr. Warren stated that Herb Ley, whose property adjoins Mr. Argetsinger's property, wants to increase his property by 100 feet, and that Ray Turno would like to purchase a parcel to which he would be moving his used car business onto. Mr. Warren stated that there is a hedgerow on the property that would block against the commercial in the front and residential in back on Sharon Drive. He stated that the property owners are retaining 60 feet of right-of-way off Woodsedge and East Shore Drive for high powerlines . Cheryl Nickel stated that she would prefer to see the car lot somewhere else since it devalues property everywhere. Robert Todd stated that he didn' t see her concern since there are already two businesses next to this proposed car lot. Larry Sharpsteen agreed with Cheryl. He stated that even if this area was zoned it would be zoned commercial. Cheryl Nickel added that it might be better if there were street trees with high branches. She commented on even starting a Downtown Beautification project, and that she knows of people who would be interested in working on some type of committee for this. Robert Todd then questioned Cheryl Nickel what she would like to see there. She responded that even a car lot would be okay if the cars weren' t right on the curb and if there were some trees along the road. • 4 • ., . • Cal Warren stated that Herb Ley and Ray Turno approached him together, which goes to show that they as neighbors are compatible. %• Larry Sharpsteen moved to consider this one-lot subdivision and boundary change, and to schedule a public hearing; Robert Todd seconded. The Board reviewed the SEQR and received a negative declaration. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY A public hearing was scheduled for July 14, 1992, at 8: 15 p. m. Tom Neiderkorn, Master Plan Update Tom Neiderkorn appeared before the Planning Board to report on the progress of the Long Range Planning Subcommittee.. In his continued work on the Master Plan . Update, he distributed a copy of the Assumptions for review and comments from the Planning Board members as he read through each one: . He stated this was the sketch plan stage. He also displayed and described' a map of the southern portion of the Town of Lansing, including some of the Village of Lansing. Tom added that the Policy Statements have already been reviewed by this Planning Board. Tom then reviewed and described the map and the legend for the sketch land use map. Land Use and Circulation System • • The map indicates the major connectors, which carry traffic efficiently, as Route 34 and 34B, Peruville Road, and North Triphammer Road. The Village is experiencing delays where that trafficwill be, and is looking for alternatives. Secondary connectors might connect Benson Road to Warren Road. The runway will eventually need to be extended and Warren Road will need to be moved either to the west or perhaps in a tunnel. Another secondary connector would be to connect Hillcrest Road to North Triphammer Road to Route 34. He felt that Hillcrest Road could take all the traffic. He described neighborhood roads would connect neighborhoods so that the traffic would not have to use the major or secondary connectors to get around the Town. Service roads are the roads that get you to your driveway. Land Use Designations He suggested putting in a main transmission line for sewer to allow higher density to the northern line of the Village. Research and Light Industry Tom felt that the area at the end of the runway would be better suited for research and light industry instead of more housing like Bean Hill, and that a large portion of that area is already zoned industrial. • 5 Special Areas • The Town Center would be a high activity area surrounded by housing. Another part of the Master Plan might be to cut off Triphammer Terrace and make a park at the triangle. Tom Neiderkorn stated that if the plan is okay, that the next step is to move toward zoning. Cheryl Nickel stated that the southern part of the town needs parks, and that Town's don't want the burden, but maybe Lansing should require developers to contribute. Tom stated that this is a good way to get money as development occurs, and that the Town of Lansing should do that. Larry Tvaroha stated that the Town Board is in favor of this. Grace Haney questioned how you establish a cut through something that is already a residential area just by widening Hillcrest to accommodate the cut-through traffic. Tom Neiderkorn responded by stated that you either have to stop it the traffic or acknowledge it. • Larry Sharpsteen questioned Tom if he saw the traffic increasing. Tom responded that with the increase of industrial and research businesses near the airport and thus the increase of jobs, that yes the traffic will increase. Al White wants to encourage the Town Board to start zoning the area by the airport, and wondered if it took a petition or a resolution. Roger Hagin commented that the present zoning could be amended. Cheryl Nickel questioned Larry Tvaroha about the idea of presenting the map at Lansing Day to get feedback from the public, to which Larry agreed it would be a good idea. Linda Hirvonen felt that the public will want to be consulted on this Master Plan. • There being no further business, this meeting was adjourned at 10:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, OLC(42-6ual.. (# c_ ) 2, &co inta—f"--1Michelle R Eastman Next Planning Board Meeting; Monday, June 22, 1992; 7:30 p.m. • 6 --mvmy -•••••••un "'MNMr A `'Mr A 0610a1922 fest. ® LANSibv , PL ,a ,u / 614 ath /fl c ,,v cJ f -\ q er\\:,_ (\k) 61 ‘4,) k\ eSse5 4:-• CtroCCLL}v\Ati ST f 9 \: Z . N N ; , r3aD t.-r- a CD 4 �`� /-,. 2 .csae I L Eklitg - ' 5 VO ( : Sidgz. G e 4,7,,,,s/voy 4, 7r 4 , Jr\ cc l ) r em c. : : _ 3.01 Sc3 C LC UCL; e ,-- ut' lc -c. . sem . e:gy„,,,i „7,* IL,,, ./. . T-39 vee,t -,.L,-. „, V .,-----7 - - - -1: 2 --.‘. . ' 4 .' 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