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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-04-13 hook • TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Meeting Monday, April 13, 1992; 7:30 p.m. PLANNING BOARD * Denotes Present * Roger Hagin * Larry Sharpsteen * Linda Hirvonen * Robert Todd * Viola Miller Mullane * Al White Cheryl Nickel * George Totman, Planning, Zoning, and Code Administration Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT Bill Bonfield Herbert Howell Mary Sherman Betty Grant G.W. Monteleone Glenna Thaler Richard Haynor Joe Rypl Steve White • • Linda Hirvonen called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. REVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH 9, 1992 Page One. Linda Hirvonen commented that the correct spelling of the last name of Judy Sol is Saul. Page Two. Linda Hirvonen also corrected the spelling of Wilson Real Estate to Wilsen. Page Three, Further Business . Linda Hirvonen felt that the "project" needed to be descrit , � bed,. further stating that it is a study for further land use aUv planning in Lansing. Al Ali' moved to accept the minutes as corrected; Viola Miller seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY REVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH 23, 1992 (ph ' ie.- Linda LLinda Hirvonen corrected the spelling of Judy Sol to Saul. Al Ir moved to accept the minutes as corrected; Robert Todd seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SURVEY Linda Hirvonen updated the Planning Board members on the progress of the focus groups. She stated that Robin Blakely was going to speak to Judy Saul to discuss the focus groups. Linda stated that she has sent out 50 letters to perspective members of • the focus groups. She also stated that she had given the list of questions for the focus groups to Robin. She also stated that the survey has been received well. • George Totman stated that he had received 192 surveys to date. George Totman stated that some of the response he has gotten has been negative towards the questions for relationship to the Village. THE TWO-DAY CONFERENCE Linda Hirvonen stated that the two-day conference which was to be held on April 1 and 2, 1992, had to be cancelled due to lack of registrations. It is planned to reschedule this conference in the near future. BECKWITH LANE Larry Sharpsteen brought up the subject of the extension on the road at Beckwith Lane and questioned the . Board as to what anyone might know about it. Linda Hirvonen commented that there was a major subdivision that was not brought before the Board, in which four lots were sold. The Penney's bought land from the Beckwiths, then decided to sell off the lots to recoup some money. The Town Board is now dealing with this as an illegal subdivision and is trying to decide what to do with it. Al White didn' t feel that the Planning Board would approve any subdivision without a road. George Totman stated that he had looked through his records to confirm whether this subdivision had gone through the Planning Board or not, and had no record of this major subdivision. • THE COUNTY PLANNER Robert Todd questioned the other Board members about the publication entitled, The County Planner. He was concerned about the section on Land Use Planning: Greenway Study to Commence in Spring in the Village of Lansing. He felt these issues would directly relate to the Town of Lansing. The statements of "the greenway will contain both active and passive open space", "scenic or unique natural characteristics will be suggested for preservation allowing the Village to actively address the parks and open space policies", "inventory of existing open space", "preserve environmental significant features", were the ones that concerned him the most. His questions, he felt, were more rhetorical, such as: Who is going to pay the property owners when the land is designated as open space?, and Who is going to decided what the unique and scenic natural characteristics ? Viola responded that there is already quite a source of information available on this from Environmental Management Council. THREE-LOT SUBDIVISION, Helen Ashley, Stonehaven Road, Tax Map #39.-1- 20.12 Linda Hirvonen read the public notice published in the Ithaca Journal, opened the public hearing at 8: 00 p.m., and asked for any questions from the public present. S 2 • Mary Sherman explained the background of the subdivision. Bill Barfield stated that he has an easement onto Lot C and 100 percent of his leechfield for his septic is on that field. Mary Sherman stated that that lot didn' t PERC. She went on to state that the Health Department says that basically a buyer would have to build on a slab and have an aboveground septic. Mary Sherman stated that the best outcome for the property would be to subdivide that property. The property (Lot C) failed the PERC because there is only eight inches of top soil and then bedrock. Mr. Banfield stated that 65 feet of Lot C is consumed with his leechfield. If sewer were to come through, Lot C would become very buildable. A Larry Sharpsteen moved to dose the public hearing; Al White seconded. Larry Sharpsteen moved to approve this three-lot subdivision; Viola Miller Mullane seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SUBDIVISION REQUEST, Herbert Howell, Searles Road, Tax Map #28.-1 -28. 1 Dick Haynor, representing Herbert Howell, appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a four-lot subdivision. Mr. Haynor began by explaining that Berkshire Development bought the first lot which contains 19.6 acres with 1 ,600 feet of road frontage (which they subdivided), Lot B has been sold and a house has already been built on it, Lot C contains 327 feet of road frontage with four acres and has a purchase offer on it, Lot E contains 400 feet of road frontage with four plus acres and has a purchase offer on it, and Lot D contains 324 feet of road frontage with four acres and is still available. For access to the property behind Lots C, D, and E, there is 66 feet of right-of-way between -Burke's and- Berkshire's-property-on=Searles Road,, which has-been deeded in, and--1600+ feet on- Route 34,, which is on another tax map number but has _ a.,right- of-way to the other property: Mr. Haynor also stated that there is 6 feet of right-of- way on the old Shortline Railroad bed. Linda Hirvonen was concerned that the larger parcel have two access points to the back. Dick Haynor explained that this would be difficult across Lots C, D, or E because of the gully and marsh land. Some of the streams on the larger parcel are just seasonal. Bud Howell said they may in the future redeed the boundary to include a larger access point. Larry Sharpsteen read Section 402 C from the Subdivision Regulations Handbook, "At the sole discretion of the Planning Board may classify a sketch plan as a minor subdivision when there are no more than three lots involved, initial lot plus two new lots . When each of said lots fronts on an existing public street and does not require a new or extended street or extension of public waters or sewer service. Any sketch plan not classified by the Planning Board as a minor subdivision will be considered a major subdivision. " George Totman suggested he look at Appendix 1 - Definitions. S 3 • Linda Hirvonen stated that this is a sketch plan and that a survey must be submitted before the final plat can be approved. She requested a survey and a public hearing be done. She also recommended that a boundary change be done on Route 34 on tax map number 28.2 to provide a larger access point to the large parcel of land behind Lots C, D, and E on the property for tax map number 28. 1 . Al White reviled the SEQR, which received a negative declaration. Al White moved to accept the preliminary plat and schedule a public hearing; Roger Hagin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY A public hearing was scheduled for May 11, 1992, at 8:00 p .m. for this subdivision. Linda Hirvonen stated that the final plat has to be approved by the Board, and that it should include a survey of all the lots involved. Since two of the lots have already been surveyed by T.G. Miller, it was suggested that Mr. Howell secure the services of T.G . Miller to complete the remaining surveys and combine the information to present one survey of all the lots, except for Ms. Walter's lot. It was clarified to Mr. Howell that even if the survey is not completed before the public hearing, the public hearing will still take place. George Totman stated that he will provide Bud Howell with a letter of confirmation on the approval of the preliminary plat. • MINOR SUBDIVISION, Steve White, Ford Hill Road, Tax Map #9-1-13 Steve White appeared before the Planning Board to request approval of a three-lot subdivision of his property on Ford Hill Road. Al White reviewed the SEQR with the Planning Board and received a negative declaration. Larry Sharpsteen moved to accept the preliminary plat; Roger Hagin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. A public hearing was scheduled for May 11 , 1992, at 8:30 p.m. FURTHER BUSINESS Linda Hirvonen suggested setting aside a meeting to discuss the subdivision regulations, and suggested appointing Larry Sharpsteen, since he is the Chair of the Subdivisions, to review the new regulations and come back to the Board and report. Larry Sharpsteen agreed to lead the discussion, but asked that everyone read the subdivision regulations on their own. Linda recommended this discussion take place at the June 22, 1992, meeting. Everyone was in agreement. Linda Hirvonen reminded everyone about the joint meeting with the Town Board on April 20. It was agreed that some of the topics that should be discussed are: site • 4 plan review, water and sewer, paper roads, and an update on the progress of the survey. REGIONAL RECYCLING/SORTING CENTER Larry Sharpsteen shared an idea he had for a Regional Recycling/Sorting Center here in Lansing. He started out by stating that the Quarry is the perfect location, since it is on top of 25 feet of limestone. He felt the increased traffic wouldn' t be noticed and that the location is out of site. His concept of this Center is that it would be a sorting and shipping site for the products to users. He felt that the operation could be non- polluting by using such products as plastic, glass, and cardboard. He also felt that this would create income for the Town as well as jobs. He believes this could be a regional center to include deliveries from the surrounding counties. Al White interjected a thought that the Town's that are sending trucks to pick up salt could bring the recycling products on their trip down, saving hauling costs. All the Board members agreed that this is a good idea. Linda Hirvonen recommended that this be included in the master plan. It was agreed that this should be discussed at the joint meeting with the Town Board. VACANT POSITION • The Town Board will be appointing another person to replace Fran Ramin. Some names suggested were: Grace die, who is the Chair of the PTSO, and Barney Tremina. Eq , we y There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m. Respectfully submitted, 8„_,Li) Michelle R. Eastman Next Planning Board Meeting: Monday, April 20, 1992; 7:30 p.m. • 5 ® IS Ivo cad • ean : Pa, P 4 id cr • Noir e 4 ✓ hars , rl . • GLA) yett-- 4 pt4✓✓,�iA {fes/f///7/A { �7• '{ ° o `4 (i , ;1 (0 == " {� �� 6 � Y fel / � 'rR � .. A, 2, b . +sic ebecctie/41/4k) Lg . ® ® • 0 • 06 F 7 - - 1 To Seneca Falls To Auburn I - - ' TOWN of LANSING • ' Ft� En 0 " .Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " Q 111111 Town of Lansing � ` ORDINANCE DEPT. `' I, • Box 186 1 Lansing, New York 14882 \ Il To Ithaca LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING D ate : April 13 , 1992 Time : 7 : 30 p . m . P lace : Lansing Town Hall Board Room AGENDA • 7 : 30 P . M . OPEN MEETING - GENERAL BUSINESS APPROVE MINUTES - 3 / 9 / 92 & 3 / 23 / 92 8 : 00 P . M . PUBLIC HEARING - ASHLEY SUBDIVISION S TONEHAVEN ROAD TAX MAP # 39 . - 1 - 20 . 12 8 : 15 P . M . SUBDIVISION REQUEST - HERBERT HOWELL S EARLES ROAD TAX MAP # 28 . - 1 - 28 . 1 8 : 30 P . M . ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT MAY COME BEFORE THE BOARD TOWN OF LANSING • Planning Board 'Planning" Meeting Monday, March 23, 1992; 7:30 p.m. PLANNING BOARD Denotes Present * Roger Hagin * Frances Ramin * Linda Hirvonen * Larry Sharpsteen * Viola Miller Mullane * Robert Todd * Cheryl Nickel * Al White * George Totman, Planning, Zoning, and Code Administration * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT • Robin Blakely Chairperson Linda Hirvonen opened the meeting at 7:30 p.m. General Business Linda Hirvonen stated that she has appointed Larry Sharpsteen to be the Chair of Subdivision Regulations, and he has agreed to serve. Robert Todd agreed to be an alternate for the Tompkins County Planning Board, since Viola may not be able to attend all meetings.. • Linda Hirvonen discussed the possibility of using the Community Dispute Resolution Center to conduct the neighborhood focus group meetings for the survey project. She stated that she had discussed this option with the Town Board and that they were enthusiastic and agreed to fund this up to $1,500.00. She stated that she had spoken with Judy Sol, Director of the Community Dispute Resolution Center, and would be getting back to her with further information. The Town Board has agreed to pay the registration fees for those who want to attend the meetings to be held April 1 and 2. Linda felt these meetings would be beneficial and encouraged everyone to attend, if possible. Linda Hirvonen stated that she had spoken with the Town Board about getting together with the Planning Board for a collaborative meeting, and they seemed enthusiastic. They agreed to schedule the meeting for April 20, 1992, at 7:30 p.m. Linda Hirvonen stated that in discussions with the Professional Public Relations Committee and Tom Neiderkorn, concerns were raised regarding the new residential facility being built and how it will affect the planning of a town center. Cory Gettig, who is responsible for this project, informed Linda that the facility will fit in with the surrounding area. Larry Tvaroha expressed concern on behalf of the Town Board that they have not been able to give much input and not much information has been passed onto the Town Board. The Town Board has been asking the State to have a public information meeting and the State seemed to think that the Town Board was trying to hold them up. The Town Board told them that the public would just like to know what is going on. Larry Tvaroha stated that they have put in another request to have someone in authority come down or have the director of the facility hold a public information meeting. Linda stated that the facility will only house 150 residents and will be minimum security and from the drawings will look quite attractive. Roger Hagin passed out updated ag district maps. Survey Robin Blakely reviewed the questions developed for the individual interviews with the Planning Board Members for questions or comments. On the question about services that might be wanted in your neighborhood, Fran Ramin questioned as to how neighborhood was being defined. It was decided to give the interviewee the opportunity to distinguish whether they wanted the service within walking distance, five minutes driving distance, or next door. Robert Todd pointed out that this question really relates more to zoning or land planning and not the issue of a town center. Larry Sharpsteen felt that it would be important to know what area of the town the interviewee lives in relation to the answer they give for issues of importance in the town. Robert Todd agreed stating that the people living in different areas of the community will have varying priorities. Robert Todd commented that transportation and traffic was being addressed, and wondered whether roads and bridges should also be included. Larry Sharpsteen commented that bridges really are not under the venue of the Town, but that since the Planning Board is currently in the process of planning "paper" roads, that that issue could be addressed. Robert Todd felt that roads were not really addressed in the question about transportation and traffic and would like to see it included. Robin Blakely stated that during the interview she will ask the person if they have any critical issues without showing them the list. If they could not think of any issues, she would show them the list and have them rank the issues in order of importance. Robin stated that during the interviews she will not be asking the interviewee the points one by one. She felt that if that person was to look at the list and had any concerns about education, for example, that she would not be specific in questioning 1111 whether their concern was for pre-school, elementary, etc. Robin stated that she will be doing a couple practice interviews to see how they will work out. It was decided that for question #8, "What other services should the Town tax money be spent on?", a listing of possibilities should be included, such as: a library, a dentist office, medical clinics, and a pharmacy. Some statistical information to be collected from the interviewees is as follows: area of town, occupation, ages of the members of the household, how long have they lived in the town, and whether they own or rent. It was decided that this information would be asked of the interviewees in the introduction letter to be mailed to them prior to the interview. Robert Todd commented that he would like to make sure that this survey is representative of the community. George Totman added that after the surveys, interviews, and focus groups have been completed, a public information meeting should be held to let everyone know what is going on. Linda Hirvonen wanted to schedule the meeting dates for the neighborhood focus groups, so that she could get back to the Community Dispute Resolution Center. She described the seven areas to be targeted: South Lansing, North Lansing, Lansingville, Ludlowville, Myers, areas south of Asbury Road, and the Village of Lansing. Linda then asked for ideas as to how to advertise these focus groups and how to recruit people for them. Larry Sharpsteen pointed out that there will be a listing of 160 people already identified for this project, which was submitted by the Board members. After the people have been selected for the individual interviews, the remaining individuals could be utilized in the focus groups. Linda commented that she would continue to work on this. Speaking to Robin, Linda questioned her, as to time frames to complete the interviews and the focus groups. Linda would like to see the individual interviews completed the first two weeks in April and the focus • 2 groups completed the second two weeks in April. Robin felt that this format would work better than combining the two formats. Cheryl will continue to work on the introduction letter and Linda will meet with Robin to finalize details to begin the interviews. Viola brought up the topic of where to hold the focus group meetings, whether in someone's house or in a neutral place such as the Town Hall. Cheryl felt that if it could be held in someone's house if would be more convenient and comfortable for the group members. Al White commented that perhaps the fire halls would be a good location. It was decided to question Judy Sol at the Community Dispute Resolution Center as to the best alternative. Cheryl commented that she would like to see a focus group of businesses in the community. It was discussed whether to have a Planning Board member present at the focus group meetings. Both Larry Sharpsteen and Robert Todd expressed their objection to having a member present. They felt that their presence at the focus groups would inhibit the responses and may cause conflicts. Linda Hirvonen asked those members that have not as yet turned in a listing of possible individual interviewees to try to turn one in within the next couple of days. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ;ALM- ( g • Michelle R. Eastman Next Planning Board Meeting: Monday, April 6, 1992; 7:30 p.m. • 3