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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-02-10 To Seneca Falls To Auburn TOWN of LANSING F 1 E " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic. Beauty " tce. • G9: N 1111 Town of Lansing te: \ � ` ORDINANCE DEPT. � �\ 1'l Box 186 I , 111 Lansing, New York 14882 \ it To Ithaca LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Date : February 10 , 1992 Time : 7 : 30 P . M . Place : Lansing Town Hall Board Room AGENDA • 7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - General Business Approve Minutes 1 / 13 / 92 & 1 / 27 / 92 8 : 00 P . M . Public Hearing - Clifford Buck Major Subdivision Tax Map # 27 . - 1 - 26 . 2 8 : 15 P . M . Major Subdivision - John Horky Tax Map # 40 . - 4 - 14 . 2 8 : 30 P . M . Boundary Change Request - Scott Grooms Tax Map # 16 . - 1 - 30 8 : 45 P . M . Three Lot Subdivision - Lynette Mprean Tax Map # 38 . - 1 - 14 . 1 ' 9 : 00 P . M . Any Other Business to come before the Board • /2&c.n m/7-7/7 A ) vyi ac,c, _ _ %ca //A T onl 5. ��1` yV to vi �, _ A) 5 ,' a , cm 2 TG n; We 263 LA64fuP 4 f fe/r e, ,a/d /17/ley /G? C.J/®�.r ( e141.. C;/14., ate Vidialtgks r re e d r 31 & , �. Eta f Lerzt 2 5 le / T. /7 46. : eozigiataireiocx, a / � - - _ _ _ y _ • . . • TOWN OF LANSING Planning Board Meeting Monday, February 10, 1992; 7:30 p.m. PLANNING BOARD • Denotes Present * Roger Hagin Frances Ramin * Linda Hirvonen Larry Sharpsteen Viola Miller Mullane Robert Todd * Cheryl Nickel * Al White * George Tolman, Planning, Zoning, and Code Administration * Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman PUBLIC PRESENT Clifford Buck Lynette Marean Jeff VanGelden Mary Decker Alice Moore Cathy Webb • Scott Grooms Russell Ruthig Don Sweezy Randy Marcus Pam Spicer Chairperson Linda Hirvonen called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. REVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES FROM JANUARY 13, 1992 George Totman commented on behalf of Robert Todd that on page two, regarding the Mayton two-lot • subdivision, the term spreading manure should be used instead spraying chemicals. Al White suggested that an addendum be added to the minutes reflecting that the expressed concern about contamination of ground water is from spraying of liquid manure and that the chemicals involved are from a dairy farm operation. Al White moved to accept the minutes as corrected; Roger Hagin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY REVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES FROM JANUARY 27, 1992 Larry Tvaroha commented on the section regarding his comments on buying in capacity for sewer. He suggested striking the remainder of the sentence after "capacity". Al White moved to accept the minutes as corrected; Roger Hagin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY COMMITTEE REPORT Roger Hagin reported that the Professional Planning Relations Committee is preparing a general statement for the overall plan, Cheryl is preparing a survey of residents of the town and their interests; and Tom has a copy of the survey and is discussing how to best disseminate it. Linda Hirvonen stated that she had discussed the option of mailing a survey to each person in Lansing with Jeannine Kirby. Although Jeannine felt that the cost for a separate mailing would be prohibitive, she suggested including the survey in the next mailing of the Town Newsletter. Since the newsletter would only be mailedto tax payers, it would also be left at certain local spots, such as ShurSave and Basl's. Linda Hirvonen reported that the Planning Policy, which was reviewed and discussed with the Planning Board members at the January 27 meeting, has been reviewed again by the Professional Planning Relations Committee taking into consideration the comments and suggestions made. Robert • Todd's has rewritten the section on agriculture which will be discussed within the Committee and brought back to the Planning Board for discussion. GENERAL BUSINESS New York State Council for the Arts Grant Cheryl Nickel reported that she had spoken with Jeannie Barrett and discussed planning for the town and what it could be. She had met with Jeannie Barrett, Jim Hanson, and Dwight Mengle to discuss the possibility of applying for a New York State Council for the Arts Grant. They agreed to provide accounting services and to help write the grant proposal. The proposal would be a planning grant for a town center in Lansing. The proposals are due March 1, and it was discussed that they would probably submit two proposals, each for approximately $6,000.00. Cheryl stated that a rough draft of these proposals will be forwarded to the Planning Board and the Town Board for discussion and comments before they are submitted. At this meeting Cheryl Nickel also discussed whether there are currently any workshops for farmers on land development. She felt that the purpose of these would be to show the farmers how to develop their land, all the options, and the complications. These workshops would be a sharing of information on both sides. Roger Hagin stated that once you have established anything under current regulations, you cannot change them. For example, in a low intensity residential zone; farming is not allowed. He felt that issues such as these need to be discussed. County Planning Board Meeting On February 4, 1992, the County Planning Board held a meeting with members of planning boards from Dryden, Enfield, Trumansburg, Groton, and Lansing, for a sharing of knowledge. It was suggested that for future meetings speakers be brought in to address such issues as: how to effectively communicate planning decisions with the public, and positives and negatives of zoning. • These meetings will be held once a month or quarterly, depending on the response from the attendees. The next meeting is scheduled for March 3 to discuss rural and agricultural land development. Tom Neiderkorn Roger Hagin commented on the discussion with Tom Neiderkorn from the last meeting, January 27, 1992. He recounted that Tom had mentioned that he had started to do some projections on population growth and felt that Lansing was a static population, which was questioned by Roger Hagin and George Tolman. Roger Hagin stated that Tom Neiderkorn went back and looked at the numbers and discovered that Lansing is either the fastest growing or the second to fastest and the projections from now to 2010 are perhaps gaining another 1,000 families. Tom drew out some figures on what this would mean as far as acreage, presuming that most of it went in to the southern end of town. This would essentially take a square mile of space in that period of time. Roger felt that this could mean the possibility of one-half acre lots jammed wall to wall if the Planning Board doesn't start talking about doing some forward looking in this direction. PUBLIC HEARING, Clifford Buck, Buck Road, Tax Map #27.1-26.2 Linda Hirvonen read the public notice published in the Ithaca Journal, opened the public hearing at 8:00 p.m., and asked for any questions or comments from the public present. Pam Spicer questioned the Board as to why this was a major subdivision. Linda Hirvonen responded that Mr. Buck has previously subdivided four lots pushing this subdivision into the category of a major. With no further questions from the public present, Al White moved to close the public hearing with the option to reopen if anyone appears with questions on this issue; Roger Hagin seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY • 2 . BUCK (continued) Roger Hagin moved to approve this portion of a major subdivision; Al White seconded. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY MAJOR SUBDIVISION, Tohn Horky, Grandview Drive, Tax Map #40.4-14-2 Russell Ruthig appeared before the Planning Board to present a preliminary plat on behalf of John Horky. Linda Hirvonen asked Mr. Ruthig if he has had this proposal reviewed with Mr. Larsen and Mr. Herrick. Mr. Ruthig responded that he will be in contact with them after this meeting. Larry Tvaroha commented that the Town Board has looked at this but has not had any formal presentation. He stated that the concerns of the Town Board are with the mad and who would be responsible if it was ever built. Larry stated that if the road were to be developed in a fairly short period of time, there should be escrow accounts established to ensure that the roads were built by the developer. Mr. Ruthig responded that Mr. Horky has no interest in further development of the land on the east side of Grandview Drive (up the hill). He stated that he has a contract with Mr. Horky to sell the entire 24-acre parcel. He has proposed to the potential purchaser of that land that they would convey the fee interest, which on the map has been designated as a strip, so that if any decisions were made in the future with respect to the further development of that particular, would belong to them and them alone. He felt that future development of the 60' extension road to the north would be of more interest to the Town and Mr. Horley, than the paper road of Grandview Drive Extension. Larry Tvaroha stated that the water line has to go to the end of the property, which is a considerable distance up the hill, and that the Town Engineer and Town Board will make the decisions on water district extensions. Linda Hirvonen questioned Mr. Ruthig as to whether the Health Department has • been contacted for Lot C, to which Mr. Ruthig responded that PERC tests have been done and that the Health Department will have input. Linda Hirvonen questioned whether the road extension abuts with Thaylers (Whispering Pines), to which Mr. Ruthig responded that at this time the extension is just a paper road. George Totman stated that the Whispering Pines paper road was never resubmitted for approval. Larry Tvaroha wants assurances that the road they develop will meet all requirements if they plan on dedicating the road to the town in the future. Mr. Ruthig stated that the road would be built to meet town specifications. Mr. Ruthig stated that the drainage will flow through the existing ditches down to Hillcrest. Linda Hirvonen informed Mr. Ruthig that he will need to meet with Dave Herrick to get his approval of this preliminary plat, get something in writing verifying his approval, and provide an outline for water and sewer, and a copy of the deed restrictions. Once these issues have been satisfied, a public hearing will be scheduled. If these are provided to George Totman before February 27, a public hearing will be scheduled for March 9. She also suggested that he meet with the Town Attorney for his review of this proposal. BOUNDARY CHANGE, Scott Grooms, Davis Road, Tax Map #16:1-30 Scott Grooms appeared before the Planning Board to get approval of a boundary change request concerning his purchase of property to be combined with his current property. This purchase will not be increasing any road frontage, and will be done so he can build a home on this larger lot. Al White moved to accept this boundary change, since the lot is currently occupied and this action will just be bringing it into compliance. He also moved to waive a public hearing; Cheryl Nickel seconded. No SEQR review is required on a boundary change. ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY • 3 • THREE-LOT SUBDIVISION, Lynette Maream, Armstrong Road, Tax Map #38.-1-14.1 Alice Moore, representing Warren Real Estate and Lynette Marean, appeared before the Planning Board to get approval of a three-lot subdivision on Ms. Marean's property located on Armstrong Road. Ms. Marean is proposing to divide the property into two four-acre lots, one with a standing house on it and one without, and the third lot would be a one-acre lot, which she would retain. Questions regarding how the pond is fed arose. The pond is fed by underground springs and the overflow pipe runs to the existing driveway all the way to Armstrong Road. The long driveway was of concern, but it is an existing driveway. Al White commented that this proposal was a good way to use that land that is currently inaccessible. A SEQR was reviewed and received a negative declaration. Al White moved to accept this three-lot subdivision as proposed; Roger Hagin seconded. ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY A public hearing was scheduled for March 9, 1992. FURTHER BUSINESS Incoming Chairperson Linda Hirvonen began by encouraging all members of the Planning Board to participate in all aspects of its purpose. She stated that she will be appointing clerks of the Board as follows: a Clerk of Subdivisions - to look at the broader issues concerning subdivisions, and to get the Board in line to make sure they are going according to the regulations, since the regulations have been changed recently; • a Clerk of SEQR - to follow the SEQR for each subdivision; a Clerk of Strip Development; and a Clerk of Ouster Housing The Clerks of Strip Development and Cluster Housing would be to get more information to the Board of these issues. She suggested that perhaps having speakers come in and do presentations on these topics would give the Board suggestions as to how to deal with strip development and how to encourage cluster housing. She also suggested having a joint meeting with the Town Board to discuss cluster housing and get their input. She will be meeting with each member individually to discuss this further. Roger Hagin moved to adjourn this meeting; Al White seconded. There being no further business, the Planning Board meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m. Respectfully submitted, &,47121kW Michelle R. Eastman Next Planning Board Meeting: Monday, February 24, 1992; 730 p.m. • 4