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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1991-09-23 _ To Seneca Palk To Auburn 111 all TOWN of LANSING • 4r " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " A-44 � . t Town of Lansing ORDINANCE DEPT. Box 186 Lansing, New York 14882 To Ithaca LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Date : September 23 , 1991 Time : 7 : 30 P . M . Place : Lansing Town Hall Boardroom From : George L . Totman 111 AGENDA 7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - General Discussion THIS IS A PLANNING SESSION WITH TOM NEIDERKORN ENCLS . Bylaws from Viola Miller 411 • TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Monday, September 23, 1991 ; 7:30 p.m. PLANNING BOARD * Denotes Present Al White * Larry Sharpsteen * Roger Hagin * Linda Hirvonen * Viola Miller Mullane Frances Ramin * Robert Todd * George Totman, Planning, Zoning, and Code Administration Office Larry Tvaroha, Town Councilman * Tom Neiderkorn In the absence of Chairman Al White, Vice Chair Roger Hagin called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. GENERAL BUSINESS George Totman explained that he had gone to the Town Board to request approval of payment for Tom Neiderkorn to begin working on an official town map. The Town Board agreed to allow Tom to spend up to $200 to begin work. Larry Sharpsteen made a motion that the Board authorize Tom Neiderkorn to proceed with preparation of an up-to-date official town map, and that he be • paid from either the Planning Board's budget or special monies allotted by the Town Board. Linda Hirvonen seconded the motion. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR In discussion regarding the maps, Roger Hagin mentioned that he and George had gone through the maps in George's office, and found that the scale was inconsistent from map to map. He recommended that the scale for the new map be standardized. Bylaws of the Lansing Planning Board A copy of the Bylaws of the Lansing Planning Board had been sent to the board members to review prior to the meeting. Viola Miller recommended that in accordance with the Bylaws, the Standing Committees be organized. She described that in the past the Professional Planning Relations Committee had a Chairman and two other people to work directly with the planning people and professionals and also help with community meetings. She went on to describe that the Public Relations Committee works directly with the public. Larry Sharpsteen, Roger Hagin, and Linda Hirvonen offered to serve on the Professional PIanning Relations Committee. Viola recommended Linda to chair the committee; Linda accepted. Viola made a motion that the Professional Planning Relations Committee be reinstated and that Linda Hirvonen be Chairperson, with Larry Sharpsteen and Roger Hagin as committee members ; Robert Todd seconded the motion. VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR Linda Hirvonen made a motion that the Public Relations Committee be reinstated with Viola • Miller as Chairperson, with Frances Ramin and Robert Todd as committee members. Robert Todd and Viola Miller accepted; Frances Ramin was absent from the meeting. Larry Sharpsteen • seconded the motion contingent on approval from Frances Ramin. This committee will be dealing with how Lansing is presented to the community at large. VOTE: ONE VOTE IN FAVOR KARL DATES, ALGERINE ROAD, WALK THROUGH Roger Hagin explained that he, Robert Todd, and Jeannine Kirby were present for a walk through tour of Karl Dates' property on Algerine Road. Karl Dates showed the group down along the beach, and part way up the old road to Milliken Station. Roger Hagin commented that there didn't appear to be a slope of any more than 15%, and he didn't have any reservations except about the road and how that would be held. He commented that Mr. Dates doesn't want to transfer that road to the town, but will make it available for emergency use. Robert Todd commented that some kind of access is needed on that road, because it is such a long dead end road. George Totman explained that Mr. Dates is talking about deeding in two 60-foot railways so that they will be there in the future. Robert discussed his concern of the proposed road being perpendicular to the old road, and that along the new road there were several steep areas. The septic and water systems running from one property to another was another concern he expressed. He also said there isn't very much top soil, and he didn't feel it was an ideal spot for development. Robert felt that stabilization was the whole question in regards to this property. Linda added that her problem was with the dead end road. Discussion was closed until Karl Dates appears before the board again regarding his proposed subdivision. PLANNING MEETING WITH TOM NEIDERKORN Tom Neiderkorn opened discussion by informing the Board members that he and George Totman • had gone through the maps in George's office and found a very old one, which could be used as a base map. It's scale is 1" to 2000'. He felt that he could get a good, clean mylar made of it and then begin to have overlays made. Tom brought up a question asked from the last meeting, "What should be done first?". He commented on the zoning map and the vast difference between the town and the village and what they do and don't allow. He felt that the zoning map should be more relevant to what is actually happening in the town. Tom presented a plan that was prepared for the Town of Lansing 20 years ago, which he feels has a lot of information that can be incorporated into an updated plan. He questioned the Board as to what they think the town is going to look like in the next 20 to 25 years. He said many people have a picture of what they think it should look like. He asked the Board members that with all that you know, the limitations, the opportunities, and pressures, what is the town going to look like. Tom commented that through the planning process we are trying to look at these things and come up with some kind of a scheme or a plan that we all can agree upon that makes sense on the basis of what we know right now. He felt that there needs to be a conclusion to all the work that is going to be done. He felt that there are a couple of things that should be done and could be done concurrently. The first thing should be for all the board members to read the development policy and proposals (pages 47 - 73) and see what makes sense anymore. Linda questioned as to whether they adopted a new policy the last time they did this. Linda looked for but did not find a copy of what she was referring to. Tom suggested for the board members to think about whether the old policy is still applicable. Tom presented a land use map that was used in the preparation of the study done long ago. Instead of redoing the process of preparing land use maps again, he suggested perhaps selecting a • 2 few sheets and updating them as to the current land use. Viola said that the recommendation of the planning board from the last time was not to zone the whole town but that certain areas would essentially be left unzoned with setbacks and subdivision rules. Viola questioned Tom if while reading pages 43 - 73, they should be thinking about where the center of Lansing should be. Tom agreed and said that would be appropriate since he's heard of talk about a new town hall, commercial development, and a boys school. He suggested establishing some kind of schedule by which we could have an end product. Linda tried to clarify that step # 1 is to develop the map and step #2 is to update the zoning policy. Tom stated that the map is just a tool, but that we will need to have it before we can do anything. He said we need to read the policy and find out if it is applicable then sit down and talk about what the problems are and what the directions are from the choices you have to make. He said a land use map of the southern area would be nice to have. Larry wanted to establish where the commercial center of the town should be. Tom pointed out that the Town Board is getting ready to invest in a sewer system in the future. Either a part of the intermunicipal system in Ithaca or something else. Tom feels this is imminent and a matter of not too many years. He questioned as to where should those sewers go and what's going to happen to them once they are there. The Town Board should want the Planning Board to give them advice. He feels that the Town Board is used to making those decisions on their own and once the Planning Board can get established as somebody that needs to be collaborated with on something like that, they'll both be better off. George clarified with Linda regarding the Professional Public Relations Committee that they will meet with Tom and make a full generalized report back from the meetings at the mid-October • meeting. She agreed this was her intent. Tom added that the Board should strive to have some kind of end product within six months or so, by spring at least. He felt the first meeting of the committee should be to layout some kind of work program so they would know how much they want to get involved with and what was really important and establish some priorities. Tom clarified as to whether coming out with some kind of a modification to the zoning ordinances was an option. The Board agreed. Viola passed on a comment from someone in the state department that the Town of Lansing is the only town with part-town zoning, and they may put it through the legislature to take that out. Roger brought up the subject that some of the older developments need to be reviewed because some are incomplete. George clarified whether that meant the developments that were brought in and never finished or developments that were started and never completed. Linda confirmed that there are some subdivisions that were started and never carried through on, or which were dropped. Larry added there are some divisions that have been completed but no lots have been sold yet. There being no further business, Linda Hirvonen moved to adjourn the Planning Board Meeting at 9:04 p.m. ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion. Respectfully submitted, ii/aaenoR Ssetztheica Michelle R. Eastman Next Planning Board Meeting: Monday, October 14, 1991; 7:30 p.m. • 3