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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1991-01-14 To Seneci Fedi To Auburn all TOWN of LANSING `F " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " ® A. \ ra . e. - a , _ \ N-44 \ ::\ 11111 Town of Lansing ORDINANCE DEPT. r ` `�, Box 186 �, Lansing, New York 14882 I \ `i To Ithaca LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Date : January 14 , 1991 Time : 7 : 30 P . M . Place : Lansing Town Hall Boardroom From : George L . Totman AGENDA 7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - General Discussion - Update on Subdivision Regs . Approve Minutes from Previous Meeting . 8 : 00 P . M . Public Hearing - Paul Barron - Dates Road 8 : 15 P . M . Minor Subdivision - Lawrence Conlon 8 : 45 P . M . Proposed Boundary Change - Duthie Property 8 : 30 P . M . Marc Leathers Minor Subdivision Update 9 : 00 P . M . Any other business that may come before the Board . o TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Monday , January 14 , 1991 ; 7 : 30 p . m . PLANNING BOARD * Denotes Present * Al White * Larry Sharpsteen Carol Kammen * Roger Hagin * Linda Hirvonen * Viola Mullane * Frances Ramen * Larry Tvaroha , Town Councilman * George Totman , Planning , Zoning and Code Enforcement Administration * David Herrick , Town Engineer PUBLIC PRESENT Walter Sweazey Lawrence Conlon Cindy Cutting Richard Inman Carrie Cutting Jeannine Kirby Sara Swearingen Keith Kirby Bill Cutting Al White , Chairman , called the Planning Board Meeting to order at ® 7 : 32 p . m . REVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES OF DECEMBER 10 , 1990 The first order of business was to review the Planning Board Minutes of December 10 , 1990 . Page 4 . Viola Mullane stated the word revised should be put in before Subdivision in the last paragraph . Page 4 . Fran Ramen noticed . a . • spelling error on the last line of page it should be in those areas . Page 5 . ( 6th paragraph from bottom) Al White stated that the Election should be held in January , and Office would be taken over in February . Page 4 . ( 4th paragraph ) Larry Sharpsteen pointed out that it should read submit plans for Parcel 4B . Fran Ramen stated her name is spelled with an E . Page 1 . Fran Ramen noted that in the review of minutes where she moved to table the discussion , it should have also had a second . It was decided that Carol Kamen seconded the motion . Fran Ramen moved that the minutes of the December 10 , 1990 Planning Board 111 Meeting be accepted , as amended ; Roger Hagin seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY * * * * * * GENERAL DISCUSSION ® Chairman White explained that he had received a letter from Dick Thaler concerning the Gulf Creek Subdivision , with regard to legal lot size . It was decided that the land in question is in an unrestricted zone , and therefore it was not in their jurisdiction to act upon . Chairman White believes the Planning Board should make a statement regarding Mr . Thaler ' s letter of January 2 , 1991 . Copies should be sent to Jeannine Kirby , Supervisor , George Totman , Zoning & Code Enforcement Officer , and David Herrick , Town Engineer regarding the Gulf Creek Subdivision . It is the concensus o f this Board that the questions presented by this letter are not under the jurisdiction of the Planning Board , and furthermore we are acknowledging ✓ eceipt , as well as , stating for the record that we are passing it back to the Town Board for final action . George Totman asked if we might discuss the proposed changes _ by _ tbe _Town Board while we arewaiting for the Public Hearing to begin . Chairman White read a proposed change that the Town Board suggested . Perhaps the preliminary plat could be referred to the . Town. Board for its review ofthe ✓ oads which are to be dedicated , and the specifications and preliminary en- gineering to assure compliance with the Town ' s specifications , as well as , control of traffic and roads . No approval of the preliminary plat can be given prior to official action by the Town Board concerning the roads . Linda Hirvonen responded by addressing Chairman White that it seemed to her that it would be more beneficial to the Planning Board and the Subdivider to ✓ equire this after the preliminary plat had been approved , which is the customary time when the bulk of the research and data is presented . She also stated that at the time of preliminary plat approval you don ' t get into the " nitty- gritty " of the details . She strongly feels that there needs to be additional time after having given the subdivider some indication as to how the Planning Board feels about what has been presented . Much discussion followed as to when the roads design should be approved . It was generally agreed that the concept should be approved prior to the Pre - liminary Public Hearing . Chairman White asked that we hold the discussion on this , and proceed with the Public Hearing . He then read the Public Hearing notice as it appeared in the Ithaca Journal , and announced that the Public Hearing was now in session regarding the PAUL BARRON SUBDIVISION - DATES ROAD , TAX MAP # 9 . - 1 - 21 . 8 . The Short Environmental Assessment Form was submitted by Mr . Barron , and was processed at the December 10 , 1990 Planning Board Meeting , and had been declared a Negative Declaration . Chairman White asked if there was anyone in the room who would like to know more about this Subdivision ? Bill Cutting asked for more details . ® Mr . Barron stated that this is a one lot subdivision on Dates Road with 65 ' of road frontage , and that it covers 3 acres . He then showed the layout , and stated that furthermore the narrow 65 ' area has a deed restriction of no dwelling in that area , and also no mobile home or junk within the entire lot . ( 2 ) Richard Inman asked to view the plat that had been presented . Chairman White asked if there were any further questions , and hearing none he closed the Public Hearing at 8 : 10 p . m . LAWRENCE CONLON PUBLIC HEARING -ONE LOT SUBDIVISION , TAX MAP # 31 - 1 - 6 . 2 PARCEL A Mr . Conlon stated that he originally bought the lot as two ( 2 ) separate parcels , and later combined them into one parcel . He would now like to separate it back to its original state . Chariman White asked for any comments . Roger Hagin stated he saw no problem with it , but would not look favorably to a future subdivision on the remaining lot . Chairman White stated that we would now have to do an Environmental Assessment . Part 2 - NO , B - NO , C - 1 YES , but does not negatively affect this , C - 2 It is within an Ag District , but no problem , C - 3 NO , C - 4 YES , but not significant , C - 5 YES , but not significant , C - 6 NO , C - 7 YES , but not significant . It was decided that it would not create any significant adverse effects . Roger Hagin moved to accept the proposal , and declare a Negative Declaration . He furthermore moved to accept the proposed One Lot Conlon Subdivision as presented , and wave the Public Hearing . It was seconded by Larry Sharpsteen . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 1010 KIRBY - DUTHIE PROPOSED BOUNDARY CHANGE TO TAX MAP II 29 - 1 - 2 . 34 & 29 - 1 - 37 Chairman White asked Jeannine Kirby to explain the requested boundary change to lots owned by herself , and Mr . Duthie . She stated that Mr . Duthie had built a barn on land that he and Mr . Munson agreed upon prior to the Federal Auction . The land was subsequently purchased by Mrs . Kirby , and she agreed to honor the purchase of the proposed boundary change of approximately 4 . 5+ Acres . Linda Hirvonen stated that the project looks like it would be in everyones best interest to approve the change . After some questions as to what Mr . Duthie plans to do with it , it was stated that he would like to consolidate it into one parcel . Fran Ramen moved to accept the Proposed Boundary change as presented . It was seconded by Viola Mullane . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Chairman White stated that if this proposal was a Subdivision being presented by a Town Board member that it has been our policy to always hold a Public Hearing , however , this being a boundary change : only , no: Public Hearing would be required . MARC LEATHERS SUBDIVISION , 29 LANSINGVILLE ROAD , TAX MAP 1t 27 . - 1 - 21 • George Totman indicated that at the last Planning Board Meeting he was directed to get back with Mr . Leathers , and ask him to submit a new layout showing the wells and septic systems approved by the Tompkins County Health Department . The plans being presented tonight have been approved by the Tompkins County Health Department . ( 3 ) Chariman White asked for questions from anyone in the room . ® Walter Sweazey stated he was present to represent his son Michael Sweazey , as he was working . Mr . Sweazey presented photographs of the Leathers property bordering the Sweazey property , which were taken on the 30th of December , 1990 . He stated concerns about his well being contaminated from the potential runoff from the Leathers property , as well as the direction of flow from the swale already there . Viola Mullane asked if there was any drainage tile there , however , no one seemed to know for sure . She asked if the Town Engineer could look into this . There was considerable discussion as to the direction of the swale . Chairman White asked the Town Engineer if he would look into it , and report back to the Planning Board with a suggested plan . After further discussion between Mr . Sweazey , Mr . Leathers , Mr . Herrick , and the Board ; Mr . Sweazey stated that water from swale is constant year round , and probably is spring fed . It was generally agreed that if the direction of the swale could be changed , then the problem would be resolved . Mr . Sweazey said that he talked with the Health Department , and they indicated the presented plans looked o . k . , however , whatever happens afterwards , there is nothing that can be done now . He feels that it is like shutting the barn door after the horse has already . gotten out . David Herrick indicated that it is still in the Engineering stages , but there is a possibility of public water in that area . Chairman White asked Mr . Herrick as the Town ' s Engineer to go out to the site , and take a look at the situation . It was decided that Sweazey , Leathers , and Herrick would meet on the property to come up with a solution . Larry Sharpsteen moved that we approve the Leathers Subdivision on Lansingville Road contingent upon results from the meeting between Leathers , Sweazey , and the Town Engineer . In order to ascertain the proper location for the diversion of the existing swale on the Leathers property , the Town Engineer should report in writing to the Planning Board that the parties involved have reached a satisfactory agreement . As soon as the letter comes through the Code Enforcement Office , then the subdivision will be officially passed . Roger Hagin seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Chairman White asked if everyone understands what is to be done ? Chairman White gave Jeannine Kirby the floor to explain the suggested ammendments to the Subdivision Rules & Regulations Section 403 . - C . 3 Larry Sharpsteen responded that he had hoped to avoid having to go through additional Public Hearings for many little changes . Chairman White stated that what they have been discussing was really regarding terminology , and he doesn ' t think anyone has any objections to what we ' re saying here , but where does it fall into place . Preliminary Plat approval is relatively early in the process . David Herrick read Page 30 , Section 703 - Before any final plat is endorsed ( 4 ) by the Planning Board , the Subdivider shall have satisfactorily constructed 410 and installed all improvements required by these rules and regulations . That is prior to the Final Plat endorsement . General discussion followed as to when the building permit can be issued , and the Certificate of Occupancy issued as well . Chairman White stated that he knows that Honaco Road has many houses on it , and they all have deeded access to a public road . Fran Ramen asked Mr . White if we should ask for help from Mr . Neiderkorn ? Larry Sharpsteen felt that no construction permit should be issued until formal written approval has been received from the Town Board upon recommendation of the Highway Superintendent , and the Town Engineer . Chairman White stated that the nominating committee is made up of Carol Kammen and Linda Hirvonen . Mrs . Hirvonen , as Chairman made the following report . Chairman Al White Vice Chairman Roger Hagin Secretary & Treasurer Frances Ramen Larry Sharpsteen moved that one ballot be cast in favor of the slate as presented . It was seconded by Viola Mullane . MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Roger Hagin discussed getting together with the Village of Lansing Board and also passed out copies of their minutes . It was decided that we would have a joint meeting on Tuesday , February 26 , 1991 . The Janaury 28 , 1991 meeting will be a planning meeting with no other agenda . Larry Sharpsteen stated that he has a boundary adjustment on his property which requires conveyance of 45 feet to an adjoining piece of property to fulfill the obligation of a warranty deed due to some surveying problems . He would like to get an idea of whether conveyance of that land for a boundary adjustment would require submitting it as a subdivision . Many years ago his Mother sold some land , and the then buyers are now trying to re - sell , but there seems to be a surveying error . It was decided to accept the boundary change as a result of a surveying error of 30 years ago . Chairman White stated that no further action would be required , and aksed if everyone was in agreement . It was noted that everyone agreed . Viola Mullane also stated that she is selling a piece of land which is a separate parcel not requiring a subdivision approval , but in the process has agreed to deed a strip of the land to the Pohl ' s . This may be considered a boundary change as well . Larry Sharpsteen asked what is being done with the " mess " on the Ivan Robinson property . He is concerned with the debris that is being put in the creek . George explained that he is in the process of requiring the various property owners with illegal junk on their property to comply with our Local Ordinances . Roger Hagin moved to adjourn the meeting . Seconded by Larry Sharpsteen ( 5 ) 410 Respectfully Submitted Secretary Pro Term , GEORGE L . TOTMAN 4 S ( 6 ) o . 9 t /ou3 ni kis Ns neo q eGiod fr , 1 j -Z __ - -- -31 ° gth&-cf—cCjiet--- . 17'--- 41LeRX: 30 s _ _ _ cam-____ g 6rs cei,uu-tAceshi aZts:Sta_ thlinte: 10702d -41CAS)e-ile-i_ep-F6-14SIPty, 14 3. ---- -f-`/_ - • - _ _ _ __ - . � _ — __ __ -- — . -1_ _- - _- ____