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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990-11-12 _ To Seneca Falls To Auburn 1TOWN of LANSING ---._ ti � �' t ' Rome of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty ' 34 to; I vti G - t -q, \' 1 \ Town of Lansing ` ` ; ' :'. ORDINANCE DEPT. i It F : Box 186 t ',i l'' ` Lansing, New York 14882 r t "] . To Ithaca LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Date : November 12 , 1990 Time : 7 : 30 P . M . Place : Lansing Town Hall Boardroom From : George L . Totman AGENDA 7 : 30 P . M . General Business - Approve Minutes from October Meeting All Report from Members Attending N . Y . P . F . Meeting Tentative Time Schedule 8 : 00 P . M . Campbell Subdivision - Final 8 : 15 P . M . Alfonso & Bonnie Fiorille - One Lot Subdivision 8 : 30 P . M . Gary Giordano - One Lot Subdivision 8 : 45 P . M . Herb Robinson - One Lot Subdivision 9 : 00 P . M . William Meal - One Lot Subdivision 9 : 15 P . M . Sam Myer - One Lot Subdivision 9 : 45 P . M . Ted Keeney Subdivision - Final 10 : 00 P . M . Gordon & Shirley Hoaglin - One Lot Subdivision & 2 Boundary . Changes 10 : 15 P . M . Leathers - One Lot Subdivision Any other business that may come before the Board . ® TOWN' OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Monday , November 12 , 1990 ; 7 : 30 p . m . PLANNING BOARD * Denotes Present * Al White * Larry Sharpsteen * Carol Kammen * Roger Hagin * Linda Hirvonen Viola Mullane Frances Ramin * Larry Tvaroha , Town Councilman * George Totman , Planning , Zoning and Code Administration Office * David Herrick , Town Engineer PUBLIC PRESENT Bob Coates Gordon and Shirley Hoaglin Deborah Mann Michael Cassidy Jerry Burley Earl and Diana Buckingham Craig Kramer Mary Lou Miller Joel and Lynn Baird Brenda Hammond Marc Leathers Fred and Betty Campbell Robert Leathers Gary L . Giordano Herb and Jean Robinson Vincent Giordano * * * * * Al White , Chairman , called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7 : 34 p . m . REVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES OF OCTOBER 8 , 1990 The first order of business was to review the Planning Board Minutes of October 8 , 1990 . Page 3 . Site Plan Review and Approval . Roger Hagin stated that in paragraph 2 , Mr . Neiderkorn ' s statement that " since there are no zoning ordinances in the Town of Lansing , Site Plan Review and Approval would have to become a local law " should be revised to read " that in the areas in the Town of Lansing that are not zoned in the Town of Lansing , Site Plan Review and Approval would have to become a local law . Roger Hagin moved that the October 8 , 1990 Planning Board minutes be accepted , as corrected ; Linda Hirvonen seconded the motion . 411 VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY * NYPF MEETING L inda Hirvonen and Roger Hagin shared a brief overview of the NYPF seminar they had attended . Roger Hagin stated that he had a lot of ideas that he wanted to share with the Planning Board .. Roger Hagin stated that the Planning Board should be working on a general plan and then organize the zoning ordinances and site plan review to tie in with the general plan . Roger Hagin suggested that the P lanning Board meet twice a month and that the first Planning Board meeting of the month should be strictly for subdivision review and approvals and that the second Planning Board meeting of the month should be strictly for planning purposes . Roger Hagin also suggested having a joint meeting between the Planning Boards of the Town of Lansing and the Village of Lansing before thefirst of the year . FRED AND BETTY CAMPBELL and BRENDA HAMMOND , ONE LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 374 ASBURY- ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 38 . - 1 - 34 . 2 . ® Mr . and Mrs . Fred Campbell. and Ms . Brenda . Hammond appeared before the Planning Board seeking final approval for a one lot subdivision located at 374 Asbury Road , Tax Map No . 38 . - 1 - 34 . 2 . George Totman stated that at the October 10 , 1990 meeting Mr . and Mrs . Campbell and Ms . Hammond were informed that they would need t o obtain variance approval from the Health Department and stated that the Tompkins County Health Department issued approval of their request for a variance on October 1.2 , 1990 . Roger Hagin stated that there should have been a variance requested on zoning because the lands are in a zoned area and that rural residential property requires 150 foot frontage per housing unit and that zoning was never addressed . L inda Hirvonen read Article V § 500 . 10 of the Zoning Regulations " When a lot is divided by a district boundary , the regulations and requirements of the least restrictive district may be extended for a distance of 50 feet into the more restrictive district . " Chairman White stated that a zoning variance needed to be issued . Larry Sharpsteen stated that the Planning Board has made sure that the requirements for subdivision approval were met but that the Zoning Board of Appeals would have to take action regarding the zoning variance . Linda Hirvonen then read Article IX , § 904 noting the requirement 2. for a Public Hearing . Chairman White suggested that the Planning Board waive the new requirement for a public hearing as previously waived due to the fact the extreme hardship had been established . Larry Sharpsteen stated that it could be made clear that thiswas by no means an established precedent of the Planning Board . Chairman White moved that the Planning Board has become aware since preliminary approval of this one lot subdivision , that the lot in question is in a zoned area and a public hearing is required . However , since elapsed time is now causing real hardship , based. on the. foregoing and in the essence of saving time , waive the ✓ equirement for a public hearing noting that the Planning Board is not setting a precedent , but merely reacting to extreme hardship ; Carol Kammen second the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY L inda Hirvonen noted that there were a lot of members of the public in attendance at the Planning Board meeting and asked if Chairman White would open the floor to the public . Mary Lou Miller stated that she was opposed to the approval of this subdivision noting the impact of two new septic systems and water and drainage in the area . Craig Kramer stated that the Health Department meeting was scheduled at an inconvenient time and expressed concerns for lands o f Burley and Buckingham . Jerry Burley also expressed concern about the impact that two additional houses will have on his septic system . Deborah Mann stated that the Planning Board is actually setting a precedent if they went forward with approval of the Campbell / Hammond subdivision . Craig Kramer stated that if a public hearing is required by the regulations , that a public hearing should be held . L inda Hirvonen , in defense of the Planning Board , stated that the P lanning Board has tried hard to meet the needs of the people who appear before it and to be consistent in the interpretation of the rules and regulations to that end . L inda Hirvonen further stated that in view of public comments received , the reading of the regulations and that the Planning Board would , in fact , be setting a precedent in this matter , moved that the Planning Board should have a reading from the Zoning Board o f Appeals andthat a Public Hearing be scheduled after favorable action by the Zoning Board of Appeals ; Roger Hagin seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY Carol Kammen stated that Chairman White had previously made a 3 411 motion before the Planning Board . Chairman White moved that his motion be withdrawn ; Carol Kammen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY George Totman explained that Mr . and Mrs . Campbell and Ms . Hammond would have to apply to the Zoning Board of Appeals and contact John Barney to set up the meeting . Chairman White stated that the P lanning Board will hold a public hearing , if a zoning variance is granted , to act on and grant final subdivision approval . * *. * *. * ALFONSO and BONNIE FIORILLE , ONE LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 388 SALMON CREEK ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 21 . - 1 - 2 . Mr . Fiorille appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval for a one lot subdivision located at 388 Salmon Creek Road , Tax Map No . 21 . - 1 - 2 . SEQR . The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR as submitted by Mr . and Mrs . Fiorille and issued negative declaration noting no adverse environmental impact and that the subdivision would reduce agricultural land by 1 . 25 acres . L inda Hirvonen question how far the rear lot line was from Salmon Creek . Mr . Fiorille stated that the rear lot line was 800 - 1 , 000 feet and that the road frontage is 300 x 175 . Mr . Fiorille stated that they were going to put in a trench system of drainage and that there would be no sand filter . Mr . Fiorille stated that the mylar survey map had been given to George Totman . L inda Hirvonen moved that the Planning Board approve the proposed Fiorille one lot subdivision noting that it meets all subdivision requirements with no negative impact and waived the requirement for a public hearing ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY * *. *. * *. GARY L . GIORDANO , ONE LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 42 SPERRY LANE , TAX MAP NO . 25 . - 1 - 15 . 1 . Gary L . Giordano and Vincent Giordano appeared before the Planning 4 Board seeking approval of a one lot subdivision located at 42 Sperry Lane , Tax Map No . 25 . - 1 - 15 . 1 Mr . Giordano stated that he would like to subdivide the land at 42 Sperry Lane with total acreage of 2 . 68 acres into 2 lots , each being 1 . 3 acres . Mr . Giordano stated that the road frontage is 299 . 8 feet and his intention was to build a house and garage on one of the lots . Mr . Giordano stated that the remaining lot was 300 x 200 feet . SEQR . The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR as submitted by Gary L . Giordano and issued negative declaration in character with the area . Carol Kammen moved that the Planning Board approve the proposed one lot subdivision of the Giordano lands for a house and garage , waived the requirement . for a public hearing , that the lands are in . an unzoned area and meet subdivision requirements ; Linda Hirvonen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY HERB AND JEAN ROBINSON , ONE LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 450 LANSINGVILLE ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 16 . - 1 - 19 . 2 . Mr . and Mrs . . Robinson appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval of a one lot subdivision located at 450 Lansingville Road , Tax Map No . 16 . - 1 - 19 . 2 . Mr . Robinson stated that their intention was to subdivision part of the property located on the east side of Lansingville Road into two lots and that except for a residence , the remaining parcels would be rented for agricultural use . SEQR . The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR as submitted by Mr . and Mrs . Robinson and issued negative declaration noting no adverse environmental impact . Roger Hagin moved that the Planning Board approve the Robinson one lot subdivision in that it meets all subdivision requirements and waived the requirement for a Public Hearing ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the. motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 111 Chairman White informed Mr . and Mrs . Robinson that he would need 5 • to be provided with the mylar copy of the survey - map for signature and sealing . * * * WILLIAM S . MEAL , ONE LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED OFF SNUSHALL ROAD , PART OF TAX MAP NO . 3 - 1 - 14 . 2 . Mr . Robert Coates appeared before the Planning Board on behalf of Mr . William S . Meal seeking approval of a one lot subdivision located off Snushall Road ( on the north side of the road toward Cayuga County ) , part of Tax Map No . 3 - 1 - 14 . 2 . Mr . Coates stated that this land is a 14 acre wooded parcel and is located 1 , 138 feet from the road and that there would be a 30 foot right of way . Linda Hirvonen stated that she could not support this proposed subdivision due to the 30 foot right of way . Mr . Coates asked what the minimum footage for a right of way was . Carol Kammen stated that 60 feet is required for a right of way . Carol Kammen stated that the Planning Board could not approve the proposed subdivision with a 30 foot right of way because it leads to a 14 acre parcel , that the Planning Board sees this area as having potential for future development and with this in mind , a ® wider access would be required . Chairman White then advised. Mr . Coates to have Mr . Meal resubmit the proposed one lot subdivision with a 60 foot right of way for review by the Planning Board . * * * * * SAM MYERS , BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT and ONE LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 21 CONLON ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 31 . - 1 - 8 . 2 . Mr . Sam Myers appeared before the Planning Board seeking a boundary adjustment and approval of a one lot subdivision located at 21 Conlon Road , Tax Map No . 31 . - 1 - 8 . 2 . SEQR . The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR as submitted by Mr . Myers and issued negative declaration noting no adverse environmental impact . Mr . Myers stated that his intention was to split the 5 1 / 4 acre parcel to construct a new home . Mr . Myers stated that there would be 2. lots . The first lot would be 2 acres with 150 feet of road frontage and the second lot would be 3 1 / 4 acres with 75 feet of road frontage . Larry Sharpsteen questioned that since the 75 feet of road frontage for lot 2 was less than required by the regulations , should the Planning Board consider this as a variance from the regulations and schedule a public hearing . The Planning Board members agreed that a public hearing should be scheduled . 6 ® Carol Kammen moved that the Planning Board accept the Myers boundary adjustment and the proposed 1 lot subdivision located at 21 Conlon Road , waiving the required road frontage and subject to a public hearing ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY * * *. * THEODORE W . KEENEY , PROPOSED 3 LOT MINOR SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON BACON ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 19 . - 1 - 15 . George Totman explained that Mr . Keeney had been before the Planning Board on August 10 , 1990 seeking approval for a 3 lot minor subdivision located on Bacon Road , Tax Map No . 19 . - 1 - 15 and that at that time , Mr . Keeney was told that he would need to provide Chairman White with a final mylar survey map for signing and sealing . George Totman stated that he now had the Keeney map . Larry Sharpsteen questioned the distance from VanOstrand Road . Chairman White stated that the distance was 1 , 199 . 7 feet to the centerline along Bacon Road . ® Carol Kammen moved that a public hearing for the proposed Keeney 3 lot minor subdivision be scheduled for December 10 , 1990 ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY * * * * * GORDON AND SHIRLEY HOAGLIN , ONE LOT SUBDIVISION AND 2 BOUNDARY CHANGES , 928 SALMON CREEK ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 4 . - 1- 26 . 3 . Mr . and Mrs . Gordon Hoaglin appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval for a one lot subdivision and 2 boundary changes for 928 Salmon Creek Road , Tax Map No . 4 . - 1 - 26 . 3 . SEQR . The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR as submitted by Mr . and Mrs . Hoaglin and issued negative declaration noting no adverse environmental impact , noting the property was just outside the zoned area . Mr . Hoaglin explained that their intention was to divide Tax Map No . 4 . - 1 - 20 . 2 into 2 parcels which are located on the west side of S almon Creek Road , just north of the French Hill intersection with t otal acreage of 11 . 99 acres . 7 George Totman provided the Planning Board members with a copy of the current survey . Mr . Hoaglin explained the survey to the P lanning Board members and the past trade of land . Chairman White stated that the actual first boundary change was the addition of 50 feet . Carol Kammen stated that because of the past trade of land this would actually already subdivision and that only a boundary change would be required . Roger Hagin moved that the Planning Board accept the Hoaglin application as a boundary change at 928 Salmon Creek Road , noting negative declaration on SEQR and waived the requirement for a public hearing ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY * * * * MARC LEATHERS , TWO LOT MINOR SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON LANSINGVILLE ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 27 . - 1 - 21 . Mr . Marc Leathers. and Mr . Robert Leathers appeared before the P lanning Board seeking approval of a one lot subdivision located on Lansingville Road , Tax Map No . 27 . - 1 - 21 . 110 Mr . Robert Leathers reviewed the proposed drawing with the Planning Board members and explained that Mr . Marc Leathers is in the process of purchasing 4 acres of land. on Lansingville Road with the intention of building his home on the lot that is shown on the right side of the drawing and further that the 3 lots in front would be retained for possible sale in the future or building of a. spec house . Mr . Robert Leathers explained . that the lot facing the road has 150 feet of road frontage and land slopes slightly to the southwest . Mr . Robert Leathers stated that the Health Department has been contacted to test the soils and explained that there is an existing well that is producing amply . L inda Hirvonen stated that she does not agree with the design for the addition of 2 driveways entering onto Lansingville Road as this is a problem area . Mr . Robert Leathers stated that the plan would be reworked so that there would only be 1 driveway entering onto Lansingville Road . Larry Sharpsteen questioned whether the location of the driveway could be adjusted without affecting the road frontage . Mr . Robert Leathers explained that the well would be in the center of the road right of way if the driveway were on the other side . Larry Sharpsteen suggested that Mr . Robert Leathers explore the possibility of granting a right of way to the front property that bleeds off without changing the width of staff . 411 SEQR . The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR as 8 ® submitted by Mr . Marc Leathers and issued negative declaration noting no adverse environmental impact . Carol Kammen moved that the Planning Board grant preliminary plat approval for the proposed Marc Leathers two lot minor subdivision located on Lansingville Road , and , in view of the fact that the lands are so close to the intersection with Route 34B , will accept the 2 lot subdivision with the modification of a single curb cut for the shared driveway , that a public hearing be scheduled for December 10 , 1990 , subject to receipt of a revised site plan and Health Department approval ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY * * * * *. There being no further business , the Planning Board meeting was adjourned at 10 : 29 p . m . Respectfully submitted , (LAKA-. ,i/k-Z(ZaCA----. Barbara L . 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