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Home My WebLink About1990-07-09 To Seneca Falls To Auburn I - - �� , a ;� a. .� - �r N _ r ±k` :/ "Si h � , � > . '` '': TOWN of LANSING , `*: T , 'S �t . ,v'0.v pp ss , i i nt `F ONtk *kF„e se .,ajlef, '%- /e s r Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty 411 ek. " .,- , . ^ate ' ?4133"" ' r litlt � v 0./ 'j, art a ; ,. u E sa n ,� z e. 'v# `�' t fix';a. i3s 8r`,,,” �d Town of Lansing \ 1 . ORDINANCE DEPT. 1 r Box 186 t N� ka !1 Lansing, New York 14882 � � ' To Ithaca LANSING REGULAR PLANNING BOARD MEETING DATE : July 09 , 1990 TIME : 7 : 30 P . M . PLACE : Lansing Town Hall Boardroom ®FROM : George L . Totman AGENDA 7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - General Business - Approve Minutes ofJune 4 , 1990 . 8 : 00 P . M . 1 Lot Subdivision . - Charles Nedrow 8 : 15 P . M . 1 Lot Subdivision - Jim Reeves 8 : 30 P . M . 1 Lot Subdivision -- Leon Swayze 8 : 45 P . M . 4 Lot Subdivision . - Kirby 9 : 00 P . M . Cayuga Realty Assoc . ,; Ltd . - Holden & Salmon Creek Roads 9 : 15 P . M . Any other business that may come to the Board 7 /9 / 90 hiaNS / w c ft -gni i3c4 *21 ;4 kitby (41.__ t __-11/2 ia f 15 . Chigedf:5p�C� iPOcc/ GGfl �Jc�// sa��rLi ��oAA15 .try -r5r- 4 / d ( it • / 7 / �' ?-C) ( / 21 ; 7 • • ® TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING Monday , July 9 , 1990 ; 7 : 30 p . m . PLANNING BOARD * Denotes Present * Al White Larry Sharpsteen * Carol Kammen Roger Hagin Linda Hirvonen Viola Mullane * Frances Ramin * Larry Tvaroha , Town Councilman * George Totman , Planning , Zoning and Code Administration Office * David Herrick , Town Engineer PUBLIC PRESENT Keith Kirby Mary Decker Charles Nedrow * * * * Al White , Chairman , called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7 : 38 p . m . REVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES OF JUNE 4 , 1990 AND JUNE 18 , 1990 The first order of business was to review the Planning Board Minutes of June 4 , 1990 and June 18 , 1990 . Carol Kammen moved that the Planning Board minutes of June 4 , 1990 be accepted ; . Frances. Ramin seconded the motion . Carol Kammen moved that the. Planning Board minutes of June. 18 , 1990 be accepted ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . Carol Kammen then mentioned that on Page 4 of the June 18 , 1990 minutes , the second sentence of the second paragraph should be amended to read " . . . stated that. the. Planning. Board was going to review and have general discussion regarding SEQR procedures. Carol. Kammen then moved that the Planning Boardminutes. of June 18 , 1990 be accepted , as corrected ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . ® VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 1 * * * CHARLES NEDROW , PROPOSED 1 LOT MINOR SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON DAVIS ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 16 . - 1 - 8 . 2 . Mr . Charles Nedrow appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval for a 1 lot minor subdivision located on Davis Road. , Tax Map No . 16 . - 1 - 8 . 2 . Carol Kammen asked Mr . Nedrow how may acres were involved . Mr . Nedrow stated thatthere would be 1 . 245 acresout of 36 acres . The Planning Board reviewed the application submitted by Mr . Nedrow and. had general discussion . Carol Kammen moved that the Charles Nedrow proposed 1 lot minor subdivision request be approved , that the. Planning Board accept the short form SEQR submitted and waived the requirement for a Public Hearing ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SEQR REVIEW : The Planning Board membersreviewed the short form SEQR submitted by Mr . Nedrow for the proposed 1 lot subdivision and after review , issued negative declaration on the basis of a ® single family residence in character with the area having no adverse environmental impact . ACTION : Chairman White informed Mr . Nedrow that he will need to provide a mylar copy of the survey map for the 1 lot minor subdivision for affixation of the Planning Board approval seal . * * * * * GENERAL DISCUSSION - SEQR Frances Ramin stated that the Planning Board should establish procedures for reviewing the SEQR forms submitted and that the minutes should reflect any action taken by the Planning Board . Carol Kammen commented that any SEQR review should be done during the first part of the Planning Boardmeeting and that any questions that the Planning Boardmay have could be answered during the regular meeting when applicants were called before the Planning Board . Frances Ramin questioned how to go about having to request a long form SEQR when a short form SEQR had already been submitted . Larry Tvaroha stated that the Town Board reviews the scope of the project and after review , determines whether a short form or long form will be required . ® Town Engineer David Herrick stated that George Totman can steer 2 411 applicants to the correct use of the short or long form SEQR and that after it has been submitted to the Planning Board sketch plan ✓ eview , the plan could be put on file for the public to review for 30 days beforetaking action . Larry Sharpsteen stated that in the case of 1 or 2 lot subdivision requests that the Planning Board shouldn ' t wait 30 days . Carol Kammen stated that for major subdivision requests , the Planning Boardwould want to wait the 30 days beforetaking action and that for minor subdivision requests , the Planning Boardwouldact on them as the: SEQR formswere ✓ eceived . * * * * * JAMES AND JANETTE. REEVES , PROPOSED 2 LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED. BETWEEN 1310 AND 1312 AUBURN. ROAD , TAX. MAP NO .. 5 . - 1 - 8 . George Totman refreshed the Planning Board of Mr . Reeve ' s application andstated that Mr . Reeves had changed his plan according to the Planning Board requirements of June 4 , 1990 . Carol Kammen asked if a short form SEQR had been submitted . Chairman Whitestated that they had the short form SEQR and. that the Planning Board needed to review it . Frances Ramin moved that the Planning Board grant preliminary sketch plan approval for the Reeves 2 lot subdivision and waived the requirement for a Public Hearing ; Carol Kammen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SEAR REVIEW :. The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR submitted by Mr . Reeves for the proposed. 2 lot subdivision and after review , issued negative declaration on the basis of a single family residence. in character with the area having no adverse environmental. impact. . * * * * * JUDY EMMICK , PROPOSED 1 LOT MINOR SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 298 BUCK ROAD , TAX MAP NOS . 28 - 1 - 25 .. 2 AND 28 - 1 - 25 . 4 . SEQR REVIEW The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR submitted by Judy Emmick. for the. proposed 1 lot. minor subdivision and.. after ✓ eview , issued negative declaration on the basisof a single family ✓ esidence in character with the. area having no adverse environmental impact . 3 * * * * LEON SWAYZE , PROPOSED 1 LOT MINOR SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 121 LUDLOWVILLE ROAD , TAX MAP NO . 27 . - 1 - 30 . 2 . The Planning Board reviewed the application submitted by Mr . Leon Swayze for a 1 lot minor subdivision located at 121 Ludlowville Road , Tax Map No . 27 . - 1 - 30 . 2 . Chairman White questioned if the property was in an agricultural district . Town Engineer Herrick stated thatit was notlocated in an agricultural district and that the land use was residential . Chairman White pointed out that the Leon Swayze map showedan existing houseon the land and that the short form SEQR submitted stated that Mr . Swayzewas planning on placing a mobile home on the land . George. Totman stated that. Mr . Swayzeis forced to place a mobile home on the property due to the fact that Bolton Point won ' t place a water meter on the land unless Mr . Swayze subdivides the land . Town Engineer Herrick statedthat the Bolton Point policy is 1 tax map , 1 water meter . Larry Sharpsteen stated that the map shows 3 separate distinct parcels and that Mr . Swayze erred in his request for a subdivision . Larry Sharpsteen further stated that the map is not complete and does not show what is being subdivided . Larry Tvaroha stated that the Ludlowville Road area has a lot of topo with a large slope and that you can ' t tell this from the map submitted . Larry Sharpsteen commented that the Planning Board has never required topo maps on 1 lot subdivisions in the past , that the Planning Board knows the slope exists and that they can ' t ask Mr . Swayze to incur the expense of providing atopo map . George Totman stated that Mr . Swayze has obtained a. septic system construction permit from the Health Department . Carol Kammen stated that the matter should be tabled pending receipt offurther information from Mr . Swayze . Frances Ramin moved that the Planning Board minutesreflect that the Leon Swayze subdivision request be tabled until additional information and an adequate map is provided ; Carol Kammen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY * * * * * 411 4 KIRBY , 4 LOT MINOR SUBDIVISION REQUEST , FOREST VIEW . Mr . Keith Kirby and Ms . Mary Decker appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval of a 4 lot minor subdivision located at the Forest View Site . The Planning Board reviewed the Kirby application and had general discussion . Chairman White stated thatthis subdivision had already been surveyed and was in front of the Planning Board. when Miles Munson owned the land .. Chairman White stated that the. Munson lots extendedbackto the creek and were much deeper . Carol Kammen questioned the total acreage of the parcel . Chairman White stated. there were 154 acres . Town Engineer Herrick stated for the record that T . G . Miller Associates is involved with the surveying and mapping for this subdivision but if approached will not undertake the engineering plans . Carol Kammen moved that the Planning Board grant preliminary plat approval for the Kirby proposed 4 lot minor subdivision at the Forest View Site with deeded restrictions and that a Public Hearing be scheduled for August 13 , 1990 ; Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SEQR REVIEW : The Planning Board members reviewed the short form SEQR submitted by Mr . Kirby for the proposed 4 lot minor subdivision and after review , issued negative declaration on the basis of a single family residence in character with the area having no adverse environmental impact . Larry Sharpsteen stated that theaddition of 4 lots on the road would not be enough to issue positive declaration . ACTION : Chairman White stated that Mary Decker will need to provide George Totman with the names of theadjacent land. owners. 10 days in advance of the Public Hearing . * * * * * CAYUGA REALTY ASSOCIATION , PROPOSED MAJOR SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON SALMON CREEK ROAD ( NEAR HOLDEN ROAD) , TAX MAP NOS. . 4 . - 1 - 22 4 . - 1 - 23 . George Totman stated that Cayuga Realty Association would not ® appear before the Planning Board for at leastanother month . 5 41 Carol Kammen stated that the map for the proposed Salmon Creek Road major subdivision had not been revised and that questions regarding the sizeand shapeof the lots , the fact that Lots 1 , 2 and 3 were 3 times longer than they are wide , the U - shape of Lot 5 and extension of Lot 6 needed to be resolved . Carol Kammen stated that the Planning Board should suggest to. Cayuga Realty Association that they divide Lots 1 , 2 and 3 differently . Larry Sharpsteen stated. that Lot 6 will never meet the 4 % grade and will have to be a private road . Chairman White stated that the Planning Board cannot approve a subdivision on a private road . Carol Kammen asked George Totman to write a letter to the D . E . C . requesting identification of endangered species of plants and animals in the Town of Lansing . SEQR REVIEW : The Planning Board reviewed the long form SEQR submitted by Cayuga Realty Association for the proposed major subdivision. . After review of the long form SEQR , the Planning Board agreed that the submittal was poorly completed and lacked essentialinformation needed for proper review by the Planning Board . Larry Sharpsteen stated that the long form SEQR lacked the necessary statement of purpose and that the Planning Board cannot act on the request unless the statement of purpose is included . Chairman White statedthat he will meet with Town Supervisor Kirby 41/ and ask for direction in this matter and that he will write a letter Attorney Reizes to inform him that the Planning Board found the long form SEQR to be incomplete for proper review . There being no further business , the Planning Board meeting was adjourned at 9 : 35 p . m . Respectfully submitted , _adI9/ arbara L . Evans NEXT REGULAR PLANNING BOARD MEETING : August 13 , 1990 ; 7 : 30 p . m . 6