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LANSING REGULAR PLANNING BOARD MEETING
DATE : February 05 , 1990
TIME : 7 : 30 P . M .
PLACE : Lansing Town Hall Board Room
FROM : George L . Totman
AGENDA
7 : 30 P . M . Open Meeting - Act on Previous Minutes
8 : 00 P . M . James Ridall - One Lot Subdivision
8 : 15 P . M . William Earle - Minor Subdivision
8 : 30 P . M . Blanche& Duncan Hand - 1 Lot Subdvision
8 : 45 P . M . Ken Malone - Boundry Change & 1 Lot Subdivision
9 : 00 P . M . Any other business that may come before the Board
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® TOWN OF LANSING
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Monday , February 5 , 1990 ; 7 : 30 p . m .
PLANNING BOARD
* Denotes Present
* Al White Larry Sharpsteen
* Carol Kammen Roger Hagin
* Linda Hirvonen
* Viola Mullane
* Frances Ramin
* Larry Tvaroha , Town Councilman
* George Totman , Planning , Zoning and Code
• Administration Office
David Herrick , Town Engineer
PUBLIC PRESENT
J ames Ridall George Schlecht
William Earle Don Sweezey
B lanche Hand
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Al White , Chairman , called the Planning Board Meeting to order
at 7 : 35 p . m .
REVIEW OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES OF JANUARY 8 , 1990
The first order of business was to review the Planning Board
Minutes of January 8 , 1990 .
P age 1 , Public Present . Linda Hirvonen stated that Richard
Baker was accompanied by his wife , Judith Baker , to the January 8 ,
1990 Planning Board Meeting and should be added to the listing of
Public Present .
P age 2 , William Meal Subdivision - Fenner Road . Chairman
White stated that the minutes should properly reflect that " This
Subdivision is located on Fenner Road and is one minor
Subdivision . " The minutes incorrectly stated that the Subdivision
was " one Subdivision with no minors . "
P age 3 , Update of Acceptance of Roads . Chairman White stated
that Viola Mullane asked Larry Tvaroha for an update on roads that
have been accepted by the Town of Lansing and that Larry Tvaroha
stated that Horizon Road has been accepted and that Leathers Road
411 has been accepted conditionally but that there were some
improvements needed to the turnaround . The minutes incorrectly
identified Larry Tvaroha as Larry Sharpsteen .
® Pace 8 , Beebe Subdivision - Atwater Road . Chairman White
stated that Mrs . Beebe has spoken with Mr . Steven Kearns of the
Health Department . Mr . Kearns was incorrectly identified as Mr .
S teven Combes .
P age 9 , Planning Board - New Business . Viola Mullane stated
that the minutes should be corrected to show that Viola Mullane
moved that the Planning Board recommend to the Town Board that
L arry Sharpsteen be reappointed to the Planning Board . The minutes
incorrectly stated that Viola Mullane moved that Larry Sharpsteen
be reappointed to the Planning Board .
P age 10 , Environmental Assessments . Linda Hirvonen stated
that the minutes should be corrected to show that Linda Hirvonen
urged the Town Board , not the Planning Board , to reconsider who
approves the impact statements .
Frances Ramin moved to accept the minutes of January 8 , 1990
as amended ; Linda Hirvonen seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
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411 SITE PLAN REVIEW BOARD
L inda Hirvonen stated that she and Carol Kammen were to
prepare a recommendation for submittal to the Town Board for review
to study the site plan process , but that due to the fact that the
J anuary meeting wasn ' t a regularly scheduled meeting , that this was
not done . George Totman stated that Tom Niederkorn would attend
the February 19 , 1990 meeting .
L inda Hirvonen expressed the need for a formal statement be
issued by the Planning Board regarding Site Plan Review and made
the following formal statement for the record :
" The Planning Board has meet with Tom Niederkorn , an
independent planning consultant , and has asked him to
d raw up some guidelines for the Town Board to consider
with regard to instituting site plan review . The
P lanning Board will review them and make their
suggestions and proceed with them to the Town Board as
quickly as possible . "
✓ iola Mullane stated , for the record , that the Planning Board
proceed along the same lines regarding the study of land use
control in special areas of the Town in include areas going north
on Route 34 , along Lake Shore Drive and all areas south .
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JAMES RIDALL - APPLICATION FOR MINOR SUBDIVISION ON SILL ROAD - ONE
LOT SUBDIVISION , TAX MAP NO . 5 - 1 - 2 .
Mr . Ridall appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval
for an application for a minor subdivision on Sill Road .
L inda Hirvonen stated that this would be a one lot subdivision
consisting of 4 . 96 acres + / - with road frontage of 214 + feet .
✓ iola Mullane stated that even though there is not 300 feet
on the road , the proposed minor subdivision is not creating any new
roads . Viola Mullane further stated that the utilities are there
that are necessary and that it meets the demands of the public
health as it is almost 5 acres .
Viola Mullane moved that the Planning Board accept Mr .
Ridall ' s application for a minor subdivision on Sill Road as a one
lot subdivision and further moved to waive the need for a Public
Hearing ; Carol Kammen seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
411 WILLIAM EARLE , APPLICATION FOR MINOR SUBDIVISION , 1980 EAST SHORE
DRIVE , TAX MAP NO . 37 . 1 - 1 - 9 . 1 .
Mr . Earle appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval
for an application for a minor subdivision at 1980 East Shore
D rive .
L inda Hirvonen stated for the record that this is a proposed
subdivision for the Earle property on East Shore Drive and that Mr .
E arle is proposing to divide a one - acre parcel from an existing
fifteen acre parcel , the one acre to include an existing house and
a double - wide mobile home .
Mr . Earle stated that he has received Health Department
approval and has given the approval to George Totman .
Chairman White questioned the three septic units . Mr . Earle
stated that there used to be three septic units and further stated
that he had appeared before the Planning Board in 1987 and at that
t ime , the Planning Board had problems with it being three units so
he took the one trailer off . Chairman White questioned if the one
lot will be sold to one owner and will include the house and the
double -wide mobile home . Mr . Earle stated that that was correct .
Chairman White questioned the continuation of the loop driveway and
Mr . Earle stated that this would be cut off .
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® Carol Kammen questioned if Mr . Earle was eliminating one
driveway onto East Shore Drive and Mr . Earle replied that he was
not .
L inda Hirvonen stated there was a map on file for the
Argetsingers for a subdivision and questioned if the Planning Board
knew whether or not this portion of the land was listed on that
subdivision map . George Totman stated that he would look up the
map . Chairman White stated that the Argetsinger property was
across the road . Mr . Earle stated that he has owned the land for
five years .
Carol Kammen moved that the Planning Board approve Mr . Earle ' s
application for a one lot , one acre minor subdivision as long as
all the contingencies have been met , such as Health Department
Approval , and further waived the need for a Public Hearing ; Frances
Ramin seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
DUNCAN AND BLANCHE HAND , APPLICATION FOR ONE LOT SUBDIVISION , DATES
ROAD ( LOCATED BETWEEN FENNER ROAD AND JERRY SMITH ROAD ) .
® Mrs . Hand appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval
for an application for a one lot subdivision located on Dates Road
between Fenner Road and Jerry Smith Road .
Chairman White stated for the record that the Planning Board
is looking at a subdivision of a very recent subdivision and he
suspects that the Planning Board will be looking at more of this
due to the fact that Mr . Neal is selling lots and due to the size
of the lots being sold .
L inda Hirvonen stated for the record that the proposed minor
subdivision is a new action on a lot that was recently a part of
a major subdivision action .
George Totman stated that this property is located 1 , 324 . 4
feet from the center road on the east side of Dates Road .
L arry Tvaroha stated that Dates Road is scheduled to be worked
on . George Totman stated that the U . S . Postal Service will not
deliver mail on that road because it is not an acceptable road for
their mail carriers to drive on until it is updated by the Highway
Department .
Carol Kammen moved that the Planning Board accept Mrs . Hand ' s
application for a one lot subdivision on Dates Road , with the
® Health Department approval having been submitted , and waived the
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411 need for a Public Hearing ; Frances Ramin seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
ACTION : Chairman White stated that Mrs . Hand will need to provide
the Planning Board with a current final survey showing a center
line and that it will have to be signed by the Planning Board .
KEN AND DORA MALONE , BOUNDARY CHANGE AND ONE LOT SUBDIVISION
LOCATED ON NORTH TRIPHAMMER ROAD ( South of Waterwagon Road ) , TAX
MAP NOS . 42 . - 1 - 15 and 42 . - 1 - 16 . 2 .
Mr . Malone was not present at the Planning Board meeting .
George Totman explained that Mr . Malone has two existing lots and
wants to end up with two lots but that Mr . Malone wants to change
h is boundaries . George Totman explained that there are two tax
parcels located side by side .
George Totman stated that Dr . Piliero was granted a variance
but it was subject to the following conditions : ( 1 ) that property
411 could be used by one person only with no associates ; ( 2 ) that Dr .
P iliero had wanted to daughter to work with him , however , he can
have no associates . George Totman explained that if Dr . Piliero ' s
d aughter had applied that there would have been no problems .
George Totman explained that Zoning Board Approval was required but
he did not know the outcome .
Carol Kammen questioned whether Mr . Malone ' s application for
a boundary change has no bearing on the variance issue . George
Totman stated this was correct .
Carol Kammen moved on behalf of Mr . and Mrs . Malone that the
P lanning Board approve a boundary change for the Malones altering
the division of their lands from one 110 feet by 183 feet lot
within a larger parcel to two lots , each with approximately 155
feet frontage and waived the need for a Public Hearing ; Frances
Ramin seconded the motion .
After further discussion of the first motion made by Carol
Kammen , it was decided by the Planning Board that Carol Kammen ' s
first motion should be withdrawn for further clarification ; Frances
Ramin seconded the withdrawal of the first motion .
Carol Kammen then moved that the Planning Board make a
boundary adjustment on behalf of Mr . and Mrs . Malone by taking Tax
P arcel 42 . - 1 - 15 and incorporating it into Tax Parcel 42 . - 1 - 16 . 2 ,
411 making one large lot , subject to approval by the appropriate County
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411 agency ; Linda Hirvonen seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Linda Hirvonen moved that the subsequent one lot subdivision
of the combined Tax Parcels 42 . - 1 - 15 and 42 . - 1 - 16 . 2 be approved for
a one lot subdivision with boundaries of 155 x 490 and 215 x 483
located on North Triphammer Road and waived the need for the Public
Hearing ; Carol Kammen seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
IVAN AND FLO BURRIS , PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OFF ARMSTRONG ROAD , TAX
MAP NO . 38 - 1 - 16 . 2 .
George Schlect appeared before the Planning Board seeking
approval for a proposed subdivision of the Burris property located
off of Armstrong Road , Tax Map No . 38 - 1 - 16 . 2 .
George Schecht reported that this matter has been before the
® Planning Board before and that they have sketch plan approval by
the Health Department . George Schecht stated that the Planning
Board had questions regarding minimizing the amount of road ,
drainage study and final engineering plan . George Schlect stated
that the Planning Board had , or one of his competitors had ,
previously suggested and later reinforced the suggestion to look
at moving the pond to where it was previously in the center of the
property to lower on the slope down to the west . George Schlecht
stated that this minimized the number of long driveways to two .
George Schlect stated that there were questions regarding
division of ownership of the pond for legal ownership and that this
would be resolved by each owner having a pie - shaped piece of the
pond which would be subject to easements for swimming , etc .
George Schlect stated that there will be 34 feet of lake
frontage on Lot 1 and 31 feet of lake frontage on Lot 2 . He
further stated that the pond would serve an important function for
the subdivision for drainage as the material which comes out of the
pond will be used to fill in around the houses .
Donald Sweezey was introduced to the Planning Board . Donald
Sweezey explained that the stream goes down 2 feet and is not a
high dike . He further explained that the depth of the pond will
be about 7 feet with a 4 to 1 slope .
Viola Mullane questioned whether there would be a homeowners
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411 association for maintenance of the lake and George Schecht reported
that no homeowners association was required in D . E . C . approval and
that the maintenance will be written into the deeds .
Viola Mullane asked George Schlecht how many acres were in the
proposed Burris subdivision . George Schlect stated that there are
about 19 acres . Donald Sweezey stated that each lot would be about
2 / 3 of an acre .
Carol Kammen moved that the Planning Board approve Mr . Burris '
property as a major subdivision based on the Preliminary Engineer
Plan for Burris Subdivision dated February 1 , 1990 and that
approval be conditioned upon Health Department approval , and
subject to Town Engineer review , and that a Public Hearing be
scheduled for the regular March 5 , 1990 meeting ; Frances Ramin
seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Linda Hirvonen requested that approval letters be sent to
Mr . Ridall , Mr . Earle , Mr . and Mrs . Hand , Mr . and Mrs . Malone , Mr .
and Mrs . Burris and Mr . Schlecht . George Totman will send out the
necessary approval letters .
There being no further business , the Planning Board meeting
was adjourned at 9 : 50 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
B . L . E ans
NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING : Monday , March 5 , 1990 at 7 : 30 p . m .
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