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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-05-08 To Seneca Falls To Auburn I — :tT " `'t TOWN of LAN S I NG 411 `�f Home of Industry Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " 6 G , �'I a : � V tC, Town of Lansing ORDINANCE DEPT. Box 186 - Lansing, New York 14882 �� To Ithaca 05 May 1989 To Planning Board Members From George L . Totman Re : Agenda for meeting May , 08 - 89 7 : 30 General Bus . - Approve minutes Etc . 8 : 00 Autumn Ridge Update ( Cal Warren ) ® 8 : 15 Gulf Creek - Prelim - Platt - Set Public Hearing ? "0 8 : 30 Cherry Road Sub - Div . - - Final ? 8 : 45 Any other Bus . to come before the board . o TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING May 8 , 1989 P RESENT : L . Hirvonen , C . Kammen , V . Mullane , L . Sharpsteen , and 0 Chairman White O THERS : Lou Emmick Chairman White called the meeting to order at 7 : 42 P . M . Chairman White announced : 1 ) There will not be another Planning Board meeting during the month of May . 2 ) There will be two Public Hearings scheduled for the Planning Board meeting in June . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board pass a resolution noting , with sadness , the death of Tom G . Miller , Town Engineer . It was announced that Dave Herrick of T . G . Miller and Associates 411 will assume the duties of Town Engineer . MINUTES FOR APRIL L . Hirvonen moved that the minutes for April be accepted as corrected . L . Sharpsteen seconded . Carried unanimously . C AUTUMN RIDGE UPDATE-MAJOR SUBDIVISION located off East Shore Drive and Burdick Hill Road Cal Warren , Dirk Galbraith , Attorney , and Barry Kasonic appeared o n behalf of the Subdivision . The Judge is in the process of h earing the case and D . Galbraith has advised his clients that a private driveway from the development to Burdick Hill Road should be allowed . Cal Warren remarked that the developer, finds it difficult to satisfy the Village and Town . Mr . Warren asked for : 1 ) a strong statement from the Planning Board , and 2 ) wanted to know what the town will do if a lawsuit goes against d eveloper . L . Hirvonen remarked that it would be unfair to Developer for the P lanning Board to change its position on two entrys . ' Chairman White responded that the Planning Board could do or say n othing further until the Judge makes a ruling . The Planning B oard has stated that there is a need for two accesses from this 410 size subdivision . Cal Warren asked if the Planning Board had spoken with Village about Autumn Ridge Major Subdivision . L . Hirvonen remarked that the Chairman of the Planning Board had tried to initiate such a dialogue with the Village chairman and w as rebuffed . 411 2 GULF CREEK MAJOR SUBDIVISION OF KIM PROPERTY o ff Teeter Road Ernie Bayles requested the approval of a Preliminary Plat and the scheduling of a Public Hearing . He stated that the Town Engineer h ad reviewed the drainage pattern and had suggested some changes . Two changes were : 1 ) New lines had been drawn across Mrs . Kim ' s land . 2 ) Development of roads . The Planning Board questioned Mr . Bayles about the width of the d rainage and the " 20 foot easement to the Town " to which he had ✓ eferred . Mr . Bayles stated that it was his understanding that this e asement is a drainage easement granted to the Town for access to and Town would keep it clean . The Planning Board responded that this was not the town ' s 411 responsibility . L . Sharpsteen remarked that he didn ' t think it appropriate to accept responsibility for this 20 feet of easement . Perhaps that L ou could give insight of thoughts of Town Board taking on ✓ esponsibility of maintaining this easement . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board accept the Preliminary P lat of the Gulf Creek Major Subdivision . L . Sharpsteen seconded . Carried unanimously . PUBLIC HEARING for Gulf Creek Major Subdivision will be June 12 , 1989 . CHERRY ROAD MAJOR SUBDIVISION located between Cherry Road and Bush Lane Ernie Bayles appeared before the Planning Board for directions to connect the Cherry Road Major Subdivision into existing sanitary sewers . He was representing Bernard and Ellen Friedman , owners o f 40 acres of land . The Friedmans plan to subdivide thirty three acres into twenty two lots of 1 . 5 acres each . Mr . Bayles questioned whether or not there was a Master Plan for sanitary sewers , especially going down Cherry Road . C . Kammen suggested that the Planning Board get Dave Herrick ' s impact before discussing this request . Dave Herrick responded that accommodations need to be made for this development . Presently , there is not a Master Plan ; however , a study was done in 1981 and this study could be f ollowed . 411 3 Mr . Bayles pointed out on Developer ' s Plans that connections could be made to the Horizon Development . ✓ . Mullane stated that the Planning Board has no control over easement of sewers and that this subdivision is in a sewer d istrict , and the Planning Board has no idea of where sewers will be or where the manholes will be . L . Sharpsteen questioned the feasibility of connecting one d eveloper ' s dry sewer onto that of another developer . An answer f rom Dave Herrick was that if it was done as a Master Plan , would d o alright . _ L . Hirvonen moved that the Planning Board suggest by resolution that the Town Board move forward with a general Master Plan for sewage system because of the effect it has on planning and d evelopment . C . Kammen seconded . Carried unanimously . 410 After motion was voted upon , Mr . Bayles pointed out change of an additional lot and enlargement of others . Chairman White remarked that he had had a discussion with Mr . Miller about drainage in this development and he had been quite concerned . L . Hirvonen questioned whether or not another solution for d rainage could be established . If the Planning Board must accept the pond solution , how will it be dealt with ? Perhaps Dave could think of other alternatives . Chairman White suggested that Mr . Bayles have a conference with D ave Herrick , an additional conference with the Town Board , and probably try to get a sewage easement through Horizons . The P lanning Board is not in a position to advise about sewer connections . LEO MAHOOL MAJOR SUBDIVISION located off East Shore Drive and East Shore Circle Leo Mahool and Scott Hughes , Landscape Architect , appeared before the Planning Board for approval of changes in the Final Plat P lan . Mr . Hughes pointed out that creating a road to the bottom four lots was difficult ; therefore , some changes were made . 1 ) Some lots have been expanded in size . 410 2 ) The grade of the road has been modified . 3 ) One cul - de - sac has been eliminated . 4 ) The parking area will be smaller . 4 L . Hirvonen moved that the Planning Board waive a Public Hearing f or the Lakewatch Development because no substantial impact is seen on lot size , length of road , or services provided to neighboring properties . These changes were initiated by the d eveloper due to natural site conditions encountered in the course of construction . To delay moving forward with development by demanding a Public Hearing would cause hardship to the d eveloper . C . .Kammen seconded . Carried unanimously . RICHARD PENNEY MAJOR SUBDIVISION located off Fiddler ' s Green Road , lower Beckwith property Richard Penney came before the Planning Board to make a progress report . He reported that a drainage study is being done , architect plans are being drawn , environmental assessment form is being done , landscape plans are underway , and a contour map will be completed this week . 110 Mr . Penney will bring a Preliminary Plat Plan before the Planning B oard at the June meeting . The contact person for this Major Subdivision is L . Hirvonen . Meeting adjourned at 10 : 20 P . M . marge kearl May 15 , 1989 (.4.1 1 /t. ALS / /2) 1Q 09 , s8� f‘an, 407 0ff9 / - -- • � s c a sAyKi YA-SOAJIC _ _ _ 9o., _ _ 4,5n24e4-0-C- _ -C� ..1 sac _ e •_. 8 - - lo fZ - - 13 _ . - _. . - _ - . . - - Z4 - - - - - - - • - _ _ - - 1. 8 - - - . _ : 9 - - - . - - - - .. . . f _ . - - . - - _ . - -- - - - - - -- - - - - • _ _ • 011 TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING May 8 , 1989 P RESENT : L . Hirvonen , C . Kammen , V . Mullane , L . Sharpsteen , and Chairman White O THERS : Lou Emmick Chairman White called the meeting to order at 7 : 42 P . M . Chairman White announced : 1 ) There will not be another Planninn Board meeting during the month of May . 2 ) There will be two Public Hearings scheduled for the Planning B oard meeting in June . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board pass a resolution noting , with sadness , the death of Tom G . Miller , Town Engineer . It was announced that Dave Herrick of T . G . Miller and Associates 4 will assume the duties of Town Enoineer . MINUTES FOR APRIL L . Hirvonen moved that the minutes for April be accepted as corrected . L . Sharpsteen seconded . Carried unanimously . AUTUMN RIDGE UPDATE-MAJOR SUBDIVISION located off East Shore Drive and Burdick Hill Road Cal Warren , Dirk Galbraith , Attorney , and Barry Kasonic appeared on behalf of the Subdivision . The Judge is in the process of h earing the case and D . Galbraith has advised his clients that a private driveway from the development to Burdick Hill Road should be allowed . • Cal Warren remarked that the developer finds it difficult to satisfy the Village * and Town . Mr . Warren asked for : 1 ) a strong statement from the Planning Board , and 2 ) wanted to know what the town will do if a lawsuit goes against d eveloper . L . Hirvonen remarked that it would be unfair to Developer for the P lanning Board to change its position on two entrys . Chairman White responded that the Planning Board could do or say nothing further until the Judas makes a ruling . The Planning B oard has stated that there is a need for two accesses from this ® size subdivision . Cal Warren asked if the Planning Board had spoken with Village about Autumn Ridge Major Subdivision . p L . Hirvonen remarked that the Chairman of the Planning Board had tried to initiate such a dialogue with the Village chairman and was rebuffed . 4111 2 GULF CREEK MAJOR SUBDIVISION OF KIM PROPERTY off Teeter Road Ernie Bayles requested the approval of a Preliminary Plat and the scheduling of a Public Hearing . He stated that the Town Engineer h ad reviewed the drainage pattern and had suggested some changes . Two changes were : 1 ) New lines had been drawn across Mrs . Kim ' s land . 2 ) Development of roads . The Planning Board questioned Mr . Bayles about the width of the d rainage and the " 20 foot easement to the Town " to which he had ✓ eferred . Mr . Bayles stated that it was his understanding that this e asement is a drainage easement granted to the Town for access to and Town would keep it clean . The Planning Board responded that this was not the town ' s 410 responsibility . L . Sharpsteen remarked that he didn ' t think it appropriate to accept responsibility for this 20 feet of easement . Perhaps that L ou could give insight of thoughts of Town Board taking on ✓ esponsibility of maintaining this easement . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board accept the Pr = l iminary Plat of the Gulf Creek Major Subdivision . L . Sharpsteen seconded . Carried unanimously . PUBLIC HEARING for Gulf Creek Major Subdivision will be June 12 , 1989 . CHERRY ROAD MAJOR SUBDIVISION located between Cherry Road and Bush Lane Ernie Bayles appeared before the Planning Board for directions to connect the Cherry Road Major Subdivision into existing sanitary sewers . He was representing Bernard and Ellen Friedman , owners o f 40 acres of land . The Friedmans plan to subdivide thirty three acres into twenty two lots of 1 . 5 acres each . Mr . Bayles imiestioned whether or not there was a Master Plan for sanitary sewers , especially going down Cherry Road . C . Kammen suggested that the Planning Board get Dave Herrick ' s impact before discussing this request . Dave Herrick responded that accommodations need to be made for - this development . Presently , there is not a Master Plan ; h owever , a study was done in 1981 and this study could be f ollowed . 410 3 Mr . Bayles pointed out on Developer ' s Flans that connections could be made to the Horizon Development . V . Mullane stated that the Planning Board has no control over easement of sewers and that this subdivision is in a sewer district , and the Planning Board has no idea of where sewers will be or where the manholes will be . L . Sharpsteen questioned the feasibility of connecting one d eveloper ' s dry sewer onto that of another developer . An answer from Dave Herrick was that if it was done as a Master Plan , would d o alright . L . Hirvonen moved that the Planning Board suggest by resolution that the Town Board move forward with a general Master Plan for sewage system because of the effect it has on planning and d evelopment . C . Kammen seconded . Carried unanimously . After motion was voted upon , Mr . Bayles pointed out change of an ® additional lot and enlargement of others ; Chairman White remarked that he had had a discussion with Mr . Miller about drainage in this development and he had been quite concerned . L . Hirvonen questioned whether or not another solution for d rainage could be established . If the Planning Board must accept the pond solution , how will it be dealt with ? Perhaps Dave could think of other alternatives . Chairman White suggested that Mr . Bayles have a conference with Dave Herrick , an additional conference with the Town Board , and probably try to get a sewage easement through Horizons . The Planning Board is not in a position to advise about sewer connections . • LEO MAHOOL MAJOR SUBDIVISION located off East Shore Drive and East Shore Circle Leo Mahool and Scott Hughes , Landscape Architect , appeased before the Planning Board for approval of changes in the Final Flat Plan . Mr . Hughes pointed out that creating a road to the bottom four lots was . difficult ; therefore , some changes were made . 1 ) Some lots have been expanded in size . 2 ) The grade of the road has been modified . 3 ) One cul - de - sac has been eliminated . 4 ) The parking area will be smaller . k C 4 411 4 L . Hirvonen moved that the Planning Board waive a Public Hearing for the Lakewatch Development because no substantial impact is seen on lot size , length of road , or services provided to neighboring properties . These changes were initiated by the d eveloper due to natural site conditions encountered in the course of construction . To delay moving forward with development by demanding a Public Hearing would cause hardship to the d eveloper . C . kammen seconded . Carried unanimously . RICHARD PENNEY MAJOR SUBDIVISION located off Fiddler ' s Green Road , lower Beckwith property Richard Penney came before the Planning Board to make a progress report . He reported that a drainage study is being done , architect plans are being drawn , environmental assessment form is being done , landscape plans are underway , and a contour map will be completed this week . 410 Mr . Penney will bring a Preliminary Plat Plan before the Planning B oard at the June meeting . The contact person for this Major Subdivision is L . Hirvonen . Meeting adjourned at 10 : 20 P . M . marge kearl May 15 , 1989