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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-04-10 To Seneca Falls To Auburn TOWN of LANSING • " Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " 6 34 YY. writ: Town of Lansing 1 ORDINANCE DEPT. NI Box 186 1l Lansing, New York 14882 ' ,'r Il To Ithaca 05 April 89 To Planning Board Members From George L . Totman Re : Agenda for meeting April 10 , 89 7 : 30 General Bus . , Approve minutes etc . 8 : 00 Alex Cima Village # 5 8 : 15 Autumn Ridge Update ( Cal Warren ) 110 8 : 30 Site Plan Review - Ithaca Industrial Development Corp . ( Warren Road Park ) 8 : 45 Kennedy Sud - Div - Prelim . ( Gregg Travis ) 9 : 00 Site Plann Review - Warren Rd . Park - Barry Kasonic 9 : 15 Any other bus . to come before the board . � eU ' se- c1 all TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING April 10 , 1989 P RESENT : R . Hagin , L . Hirvonen , C . Kammen , V . Mullane , L . Sharpsteen , Chairman White O THERS : Lou Emmick , G . Totman Chairman White called the meeting to order at 7 : 35 P . M . MINUTES Chairman White suggested that minutes be approved at end of meeting . ALEX CIMA , VILLAGE #5 located off Horizon Drive Mr . Cima appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval of Village # 5 which completes all building lots in an already approved PDA . He reported that a tennis court would be built near the swimming pool . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board accept final approval of H orizon Village # 5 . L . Sharpsteen seconded . Carried unanimously . 410 AUTUMN RIDGE UPDATE-MAJOR SUBDIVISION located off East Shore Drive and Burdick Hill Road Cal Warren presentd an overall view of Autumn Ridge Major S ubdivision . Initially Mr . Warren appeared before the Planning Board and the Town Board and was granted approval by each Board for two entrances to Autumn Ridge Major Subdivision . One entry was off B urdick Hill Road and the second entry off East Shore Drive . B oth entrys are primarily for safety and common sense reasons . The Builders proceeded to make culverts and cut trees on Burdick H ill Road for the entry two months ago . This caused action from the Lansing Village Board . The Village Board served an injunction against the Autumn Ridge builders to not proceed with this road . The Village Board approved the East Shore Drive entry last October . The land that the Burdick Hill Road will pass through is owned by B arry Kasonic . Mr . Kasonic subdivided a parcel of land in 1986 into five lots . One lot was not for a building and this is the lot that the road will pass through . Autumn Ridge wants two entrances and will go through litigation with Village . Mr . Warren said that there is no zoning that says this lot cannot be a road . There is now a 23 foot , 11 inch culvert . Recap of Court Decision This is a decision of access . The village attorney is not permitting traffic onto Burdick Hill Road . The Judge questions the Village ' s ability to control traffic on public thoroughfare . 411 2 L . Sharpsteen questioned whether or not Burdick Hill Road is a county road . An answer was that it is a Village road . Mr . Warren stated that the Lansing Planning Board and the Lansing Town Board has given final plat approval on subdivision . He w ould now like the Planning Board to fortify their position in any way that the Board can fortify it . Chairman White remarked that he was asked to sign a statement cleared with R . Thaler reaffirming the Planning Board ' s position ✓ egarding two entrys . The Planning Board approved this Major S ubdivision based on an entry off Burdick Hill Road and an entry o ff East Shore Drive . Previously , the Board had required Mr . Cima and Mr . Thaler to have two entrys in their subdivisions . V . Mullane remarked that the Planning Board understood that e veryone living in the subdivision would have access to two e ntrys . At no time did the Board tell the Developer how to handle the road . 411 L . Sharpsteen suggested that the Town Board brief the Court ✓ egarding two roads for safety and access . The Town Board should take a stand on this . V . Mullane remarked that the Village is saying they do not want traffic on Burdick Hill Road but any traffic from the East Shore D rive exit will traverse the whole of the road instead of half of it . ( from Burdick Hill Road exit ) . Mr . Warren remarked that there is no village law that prohibits e xiting onto Burdick Hill Road . In subdivision there will be o nly one entry on Burdick Hill Road . L . Hirvonen remarked that Chairman White attempted to call the chairman of the Village Planning Board for the purpose of d iscussing the situation and had difficulty making contact . SECOND ISSUE-DEVELOPING LAND CORNER PERUVILLE & N . TRIPHAMMER EXTENSION Mr . Warren presented a map of land subdivided into four lots , L ot # 1 , 3 . 09 acres ; Lot # 2 , 3 . 06 acres ; Lot # 3 , 3 . 2 acres ; and L ot # 4 , 3 . 2 acres . This acreage has been purchased by a group f or development . Mr . Warren wanted thoughts of the Board on how to develop it . He suggested that it might be developed for o ffices , industrial , single family housing , multi family housing , o r motel . 411 L . Sharpsteen remarked that he agreed it be developed for industrial or offices but not multi - family housing . H e would be concerned if children lived there due to proximity of town garage . • 3 L . Hirvonen remarked that there has been discussion of commerical possibilities . V . Mullane remarked that there would be a need for a service road for buffering . L . Sharpsteen remarked that there is buffering on the North and East side , mostly East side . ✓ . Mullane said that she had no thoughts except service roads and ✓ oads coming into intersection . Mr . Warren remarked that the land was surrounded by dedicated ✓ oads . The owners were not thinking of subdividing at this time . At the next Planning Board meeting will try to get on agenda and g et thoughts of the Planning Board . ✓ . Mullane remarked that she would like to relate this area to a Master Plan . ® L . Sharpsteen remarked that it would be a terrific place for a motel . Mr . Warren thanked Planning Board for their comments . BOARD ACTION A statement was drafted regarding Autumn Ridge Major Subdivision and will be sent to the Town Board . ( copy attached ) SITE PLAN REVIEW- ITHACA INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORP . located Warren Road Park L ot # 5 , 2 . 5 acres Mr . R . Flumerfelt presented a site plan for a building to be part o ffice space , warehouse , and storage space . There will be 40 e mployees and parking spaces for 74 cars . Thiel building ie lndatetd East Gf IJPP , Landscape plans , and a sewage disposal system detailed plan were presented . The Health Department is now reviewing sewage plans . The parking areas will be paved ; also walkways next to building . L . Hirvonen questioned percentage of land going to be blacktopped o r built upon . An answer was over 50 % . ® Mr . Flumerfelt said that the land drained to the South toward Cornell University land and there is a storm drain to South which is stone filled . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board give site plan approval contingent upon approval of Town Engineer and contingent upon 4 0 411 4 Warren Road Park Management and Tompkins County Health Department approval . R . Hagin seconded . Carried unanimously . KENNEDY MAJOR SUBDIVISION located on Lansing Station Road and Route 34B Mr . Gregg Travis presented a preliminary plat plan for 28 lots . S even lots , averaging 1 . 5 acres each , located on Lansing Station Road will be first phase of building . The time length for this phase will be 1 . 5 to 2 . 0 years . The developer will construct roadways . There is a portion of the land which is wetland and this wetland will be included in one larger lot which will not be developed . D rainage would be road side ditches and drains to Southwest . The wet swirls would continue through property oriented to drain into creek . The Health Department required that wells be dug . Mr . Travis said that he had copies of reports from five wells . The average per well ranged from five gallons of water per minute to 30 g allons of water per minute . There is no sulphur water except in 41/ corner well . L . Hirvonen questioned length of cul - de - sacs . Answer : within guidance of SRR . L . Sharpsteen suggested that the radius in updated regulations be adherred to . Mr . G . Travis agreed to check on this . He also stated that a buffer of trees will be installed . C . Kammen questioned trees as a buffer . L . Sharpsteen questioned whether or not the Developer would construct roads on Phase II before developing lots . An answer was that the developer would do all the roads at one time . L . Sharpsteen moved that the Planning Board give Preliminary Plat approval of Kennedy Subdivision contingent upon Health D epartment approval of drainage plans , detailed road construction plans , and completion of environmental studies and contingent also upon approval by DOT of entry onto state road . C . Kammen seconded . Carried unanimously . L . Hirvonen suggested that the Planning Board needs to act upon this within 45 days and cannot schedule a Public Hearing until all information is received . 410 SITE PLAN REVIEW- WARREN ROAD PARK Barry Kasonic presented a site plan for a CAE Technology building . This lot is 1 . 93 acres and heavily wooded . It is proposed to keep 411 5 as many of the trees as possible . The building will be heavily windowed , carpeted , and three sides w ill be drivet walls . There will be 16 employees ; 26 or 27 parking spaces . L . Hirvonen questioned the septic system . An answer was that it n eeded to be approved by the Health Department . C . Kammen questioned landscaping . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board give site plan approval contingent upon Health Department approval and Warren Road Park approval . L . Hirvonen seconded . Carried unanimously . OTHER BUSINESS Subdivision of land located on Luce Road and Townline Road . Gregg Travis has sold three lots of 7 acres , 4 acres , and 3 acres . Now , on Luce Road has Lots # 3 , # 4 , # 5 , # 6 which is currently o pen farm land . He wants to sell Lot # 3 and # 4 , 3 acres each . L . Hirvonen questioned what Mr . Travis plans to do with Lot # 5 and Lot # 6 . An answer was to sell in the future . Mr . Travis queried what he should apply for . Chairman White ✓ esponded that it would be a major subdivision . V . Mullane remarked that according to new subdivision regulations that the Planning Board could grant variance ; three lots already sold , 2 divided and two left . L . Sharpsteen moved that the Planning Board accept the Sketch Plan o f a major subdivision . R . Hagin seconded . Carried unanimously . L . Hirvonen stated that Mr . Travis needed to see why this subdivision was being considered a major subdivision . It is more than 4 lots and five have less than 300 feet of road frontage . OTHER BOARD BUSINESS C . Kammen read the newly created resolution to be sent to the Town Board regarding Autumn Ridge Major Subdivision . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board pay bills . L . Hirvonen seconded . Carried unanimously . 4 6 TOWN BOARD L ou Emmick presented subject of resolutions covering SRR costs to P lanning Board . D ecision . It was decided that a copy of the resolutions would be g iven to each Planning Board member , each would go over the resolutions and each would give suggestions . Meeting adjourned at 10 P . M . Marge Kearl May 1 , 1989 41/2 o t ?9 AA tiro • • A vv-n -t f J p 2 z s s _ ctrac f^ 2 ' - - - - --- 2 S 'Ai .. et may° Q _ --- - ---- 3 ,e Coz066-s\ //-767(-avirE- get,‘ / orec.c _ A474r. •_-- - - 4,exoC - - - - - - -- - -- ---- - _ Id - --- - = -- - - -- - 2/ if 16. I. _ - - - - - - - -- _- - - - Zv S TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING April 10 , 1989 P RESENT : R . Hagin , L . Hirvonen , C . Kammen , V . Mullane , L . Sharpsteen , Chairman White O THERS : Lou Emmick , G . Totman Chairman White called the meeting to order at 7 : 35 P . M . MINUTES Chairman White suggested that minutes be approved at end of meeting . ALEX CIMA , VILLAGE #5 located off Horizon Drive Mr . Cima appeared before the Planning Board seeking approval of ✓ illage # 5 which completes all building lots in an already approved Major Subdivision . He reported that a tennis court would be built near the swimming pool . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board accept final approval of Horizon Village # 5 . L . Sharpsteen seconded . Carried unanimously . ® AUTUMN RIDGE UPDATE-MAJOR SUBDIVISION Cal Warren presentd an overall view of Autumn Ridge Major S ubdivision . Initially Mr . Warren appeared before the Planning Board and the Town Board and was granted approval by each Board for two entrances to Autumn Ridge Major Subdivision . One entry was off B urdick Hill Road and the second entry off East Shore Drive . B oth entrys are primarily for safety and common sense reasons . The Builders proceeded to make culverts and cut trees on Burdick H ill Road for the entry two months ago . This caused action from the Lansing Village Board . The Village Board processed an injunction against the Autumn Ridge builders to not proceed with this road . The Village Board approved the East Shore Drive entry last October . The land that the Burdick Hill Road will pass through is owned by B arry Cosmic . Mr . Cosmic subdivided a parcel of land in 1986 into five lots . One lot was not for a building and this is the lot that the road will pass through . Autumn Ridge wants two entrances and will go through litigation with Village . Mr . Warren said that there is no zoning that says this lot cannot be a road . There is now a 23 foot , 11 inch culvert . Recap of Court Decision ®. This is a decision of access . The village attorney is not permitting traffic onto Burdick Hill Road . The Judge questions the Village ' s ability to control traffic on public thoroughfare . 2 L . Sharpsteen questioned whether or not Burdick Hill Road is a county road . An answer was that it is a Village road . Mr . Warren stated that the Lansing Planning Board and the Lansing Town Board has given final plat approval on subdivision . He would now like the Planning Board to fortify their position in any way that the Board can fortify it . Chairman White remarked that he was asked to sign a statement cleared with R . Thaler reaffirming the Planning Board ' s position ✓ egarding two entrys . The Planning Board approved this Major S ubdivision based on an entry off Burdick Hill Road and an entry o ff East Shore Drive . Previously , the Board had required Mr . Cima and Mr . Thaler to have two entrys in their subdivisions . V . Mullane remarked that the Planning Board understood that e veryone living in the subdivision would have access to two e ntrys . At no time did the Board tell the Developer how to handle the road . L . Sharpsteen suggested that the Town Board brief the Court 410 regarding 'two roads for safety and access . The Town Board should take a stand on this . V . Mullane remarked that the Village is saying they do not want traffic on Burdick Hill Road but any traffic will traverse the w hole of the road instead of half of it . Mr . Warren remarked that there is no village law that prohibits e xisting onto Burdick Hill Road . In subdivision there will be o nly one entry on Burdick Hill Road . L . Hirvonen remarked that Chairman White attempted to call the chairman of the Village Planning Board and had difficulty making contact . SECOND ISSUE-DEVELOPING LAND CORNER PERUVILLE & N . TRIPHAMMER EXTENSION Mr . Warren presented a map of land subdivided into four lots , L ot # 1 , 3 . 09 acres ; Lot # 2 , 3 . 06 acres ; Lot # 3 , 3 . 2 acres ; and L ot # 4 , 3 . 2 acres . This acreage has been purchased by a group for development . Mr . Warren wanted thoughts of the Board on how to develop it . He suggested that it might be developed for o ffices , industrial , single family housing , multi family housing , o r motel . L . Sharpsteen remarked that he agreed it be developed for industrial or offices but not multi - family housing . H e would be concerned if children lived there . L . Hirvonen remarked that there has been discussion of commerical possibilities . / 3 V . Mullane remarked that there would be a need for a service road for buffering . L . Sharpsteen remarked that there is buffering on the North and East side , mostly East side . ✓ . Mullane said that she had no thoughts except service roads and ✓ oads coming into intersection . Mr . Warren remarked that the land was surrounded by dedicated ✓ oads . The owners were not thinking of subdividing at this time . At the next Planning Board meeting will try to get on agenda and g et thoughts of the Planning Board . ✓ . Mullane remarked that she would like to relate this area to a Master Plan . L . Sharpsteen remarked that it would be a terrific place for a motel . Mr . Warren thanked Planning Board for their comments . 410 BOARD ACTION A statement was drafted regarding Autumn Ridge Major Subdivision and will be sent to the Town Planning Board . ( copy attached ) SITE PLAN REVIEW- ITHACA INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORP . located Warren Road Park L ot # 5 , 2 . 5 acres Mr . R . Flumberfelt presented a site plan for a building to be part office space , warehouse , and storage space . There will be 40 employees and parking spaces for 74 cars . This building is located East of UPS . L andscape plans , and a sewage disposal system detailed plan were presented . The Health Department is now reviewing sewage plans . The parking areas will be paved ; also walkways next to building . L . Hirvonen questioned percentage of land going to be blacktopped o r built upon . An answer was over 50Y. . Mr . Flumberfelt said that the land drained to the South toward Cornell University land and there is a storm drain to South which is stone filled . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board give site plan approval contingent upon approval of Town Engineer and contingent upon W arren Road Park Management and Tompkins County Health Department approval . R . Hagin seconded . Carried unanimously . 411 4 KENNEDY MAJOR SUBDIVISION located on Lansing Station Road and Route 342 Mr . Gregq Davis presented a preliminary plat plan for 28 lots . S even lots , averaging 1 . 5 acres each , located on Lansing Station Road will be first phase of building . The time length for this phase will be 1 . 5 to 2 . 0 years . The developer will construct roadways . There is a portion of the land which is wetland and this wetland will be included in one larger lot . D rainage would be road side ditches and drains to Southwest . The wet swirls would continue through property oriented to drain into creek . The Health Department required that wells be dug . Mr . Davis said that he had copies of reports from five wells . The average per w ell ranged from five gallons of water per minute to 30 gallons o f water per minute . There is no sulphur water except in corner w ell . L . Hirvonen questioned length of cul - de - sacs . ® L . Sharpsteen suggested that the length in updated regulations be adherred to . Mr . G . Davis agreed to check on this . He also stated that a buffer o f trees will be installed . C . Kammen questioned trees as a buffer . L . Sharpsteen questioned whether or not the Developer would construct roads on Phase II before developing lots . An answer was that the developer would do all the roads at one time . L . Sharpsteen moved that the Planning Board give Preliminary Plat approval of Kennedy Subdivision contingent upon Health D epartment approval of drainage plans , detailed road construction plans , and completion of environmental studies and contingent also upon approval by DOT of entry onto state road . C . Kammen seconded . Carried unanimously . L . Hirvonen suggested that the Planning Board needs to act upon this within 45 days and cannot schedule a Public Hearing until all information is received . SITE PLAN REVIEW- WARREN ROAD PARK Barry Kasonic presented a site plan for a CAE Technology 410 building . This lot is 1 . 93 acres and heavily wooded . It is proposed to keep as many of the trees as possible . The building will be heavily windowed , carpeted , and three sides 411 5 w ill be drivet walls . There will be 16 employees ; 26 or 27 parking spaces . L . Hirvonen questioned the septic system . An answer was that it n eeded to be approved by the Health Department . C . Kammen questioned landscaping . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board give site plan approval contingent upon Health Department approval and Warren Road Park approval . L . Hirvonen seconded . Carried unanimously . OTHER BUSINESS S ubdivision of land located on Luce Road and Townline Road . Gregg Travis has sold three lots of 7 acres , 4 acres , and 3 acres . Now , on Luce Road has Lots # 35 # 4 , # 5 , # 6 which is currently o pen farm land . He wants to sell Lot # 3 and # 4 , 3 acres each . L . Hirvonen questioned what Mr . Travis plans to do with Lot # 5 and 411 Lot # 6 . An answer was to sell in the future . Mr . Travis queried what he should apply for . Chairman White ✓ espoded that it would be a major subdivision . V . Mullane remarked that according to new subdivision regulations that the Planning Board could grant variance ; three lots already sold , 2 divided and two left . L . Sharpsteen moved that the Planning Board accept the Sketch Plan o f a major subdivision . R . Haqin seconded . Carried unanimously . L . Hirvonen stated that Mr . Travis needed to see why this subdivision was being considered a major subdivision . It is more than 4 lots and five have less than 300 feet of road frontage . OTHER BOARD BUSINESS C . Kammen read the newly created resolution to be sent to the Town B oard regarding Autumn Ridge Major Subdivision . C . Kammen moved that the Planning Board pay bills . L . Hirvonen seconded . Carried unanimously . 411 6 TOWN BOARD L ou Emmick presented subject of resolutions covering costs to P lanning Board . D ecision . It was decided that a copy of the resolutions would be g iven to each Planning Board member , each would go over the resolutions and each would give suggestions _ Meeting adjourned at 10 P . M . Marge Kearl May 1 , 1989