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TOWN N t iE LANSING PLANNING ]:tCir"IF'{ J,.)
D ECEMBER E : MBEE.E 12 , 1988
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l.... . I"i a r" j., s t: -. e:? i-i , Chairman White
Chairman White called ..
e ' t the meeting 1. r"f C] : -+ order at r ' > i
MEMO FROM JUDY "F ROSS I TE� R
Judy t
- t_t d ti E i CI F:; <••. i 'L- � .(.. , Attorney t: C:, .i.. .i..l (=i 'br G, Y" Jay ° '(" (. ac r appeared before t: h i ea
P lanning x : ard f cr tw " purpose t trying� z1 to resolve a -r� existing
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Cl_ i i p t_t :: ee i between owners of property bordering o Y"i Sun l E= r".i! t: hz a "t {_I of
o btaining subdivision a (i (:iY" Lc 'Jctl for the remaining t:re_? r'.'. r lands . "
» e presented aalternative t _ obtaining I i. is h 'I, c. 'F _ 4'J ; :+. `r
through the Banfield property to connect Eastlake Road with Sun
P ath ... SI to suggested two separate t: r" af 'f ic loops as " an
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alternative �: C+ the plan to create one connecting road from north
:' t"+ south cutting through all developments . " tit ' suggested that
both Mr . ^
i::( as i f 'i i. e ]. d a ('i d t"l r" { a ' C. ct c(i to before 't: hz ra t ' 3. r t , i r'i rl Board to
d iscuss development .
• I ' .t at, m trying to get the Board ' s feeling as to I . . + 4J you t•'.ic1 . . j_
the area to develop over the next; few years . "
CHAIRMAN WHITE responded that " the Planning Board can take n (:
action iC+ r"t t..t1I 't: ii. wJe hear from the Town i (At: 't orf tfi .. "
- . a : ] hstated that the Townwn Attorney h"1 <;1d advised
P lanning Bo ai_. ct " do d ; i i i t 't: h'i :{. 't 1 (::I I I until t: !t (ii". right - of - way 3. 5:i restored to
t: h t t O r e a i-' fit a p as it hi al d been approved t , ;✓ 'l; h"t r•;e Planning F.•.( Ctar (::!
j . ROSSITER said , " At this point , :_? t..t 1 z Path :I. s c:! small i { + itad and ,
f rom ca. .... E. . v point of view , I have C ( iCEri about tt .
ME { .. T:: ANF Tl : I_.. i.? stated that he had no problem with Mr . Orear" selling
1. a. .. .... .. " I do have ^ problemwith him taking my land . I.... E.. 't: me
n egotiate wdi. t: I i M r" . O r" c. <:a r .. We thought B a i f i. (e'r ]. d a i d iJ i'^ e <:; r- , and t: hz E
P lanning BC:tard could i 7 e t; together cit n {::I come up with another
alternative . The missing link is to piece of ]. <:srt{.., across my
property . We are here l : explore rosit : ] itie . I
✓ .. N! t_! I._. !__ ANE: said , " Due to time spent on this plan , ]: personally
would like t; ( t put maps ct .i.., the wall and see where e we are going to
h ave tilcti..fSa .. She also said that another concern is roads running
south• r ....
n orth andand ... ,"tt: t" . l':i +-a : o {Ytii"tf' compacted .
L.. . S E•9 iE• f ` ::i •1` E:: E:. t'•.f agreed with V .. Mt..t :t. l c.K I .a a r' d said that after study , t:: h e
P lanning E{ C.+ and will be in a better po =; i. t; .'i. o '(.Y totalk with r t r ,.
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J ., f�t O S S .l' T E ' said th + tt: if l: }'i s Planning
laini'1i. 'i ig k{ t:+ a rt l wants to look cat: i.: hi e
w hole pi. t- t ? .? i"' n i i c! dv is t h e opportunity to do so . It is also an
o pportunity tLlook i ; property hJf , of Eastlake , I..1I " i.! f:ik: I ., 7 that
w ill be developed in the future .
CHAIRMAN WHITE i- k"' .spo 'i iCit-rcl that 't; hi e Planning ESt::+ t). r" {'1 should si:: f"i +'. clt_t :l. +: r
more time during at future meeting . The Board needs to .1. {::+ t.14 : at
t. hl t" wholepictureof roads . It w a s agreed that a 45 minute
meeting with maps would be scheduled and Ms . Rossiter suggested
that other developers come in at the same time .
Al
f i comment w as s m a, cf c-� that thi :LS a development is + ' (,:+ Y'i hold " until t': 1"1ctt:
meeting is held .
,:T « f:: i i S '-3 l T E- F informed 't: l'i e Planning Board that s hi r". fi as d received a
letter from Mr . Thalerstatingthat " i. 'f' he isi"t c+ t; handed <a r i g l`i t
o f - way .i '+,! January 15 , he will proceed . "
CHAIRMAN WHITE , " May l: suggest you contact Mr . Thaler about
coming to t: f"i i : meeting . Thank i t:! ?_! f i:+ i coming
in . "
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AUTUMN RIDGE MAJOR SUBDIVISION
Mr . Cal Warren citt:frari. ssed concerns f.+ t: hi i' r Planning B { + cai" d
stated at at previous f ' etii ) r ecr d il ' « t ) sewer , ct : in 11 cross
section . roads , :r ) alterations lAc _ in drainage ilate i ''✓ : 't: e"• ffi « Lots
'xs
near streamwill not - b {:x developed ui rt: i. l public sewer t:,+ t: r" i. s
available .
The Tompkins C:: fot_i 'i i ' .. y Health Department't: }"rtaaC: identified
specific. areas where the Health Department will not approve
septic systems a - d also tr _ cs that need t _ rtt - Yinvestigation .
M r « Warren stated that he e wofL.? 1c:l like as final approval b ?..? t; he
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✓ ealized 't: hIas 't': it would t ; t_+ conditional .
F ., htF-lh'I 1 C•.I ., There er 1W i +-
t question about }. ( + 't: number 9 . An office
cannot be housed in as home . This is strictly residential .
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f .. E! A ('` I N moved that final r i :l. to t be accepted by Planning Board ,
contingent upon t: h e approval of 't: i'l k:? Tompkins County Health
D epartment , and Mr . Miller , t: hlc Town Engineer .
t.: « f , ctftiPYiL i`iG. ..... ir+ i"it. ....-1 •. Carried unanimously .
1.._ .. Cf••tARE ' ST1:::: E1'•.I moved that the Planning Board waive < a i. c= c:: {::+ r; {:# public
h earing for the Autumn
_ " _ f " fidlkSubdivision
_ , iiVL iirLacs _ e of
lack of
Lit..'tr=, {,- ?_ ss:, 7. {"+ itg no neighbors in attendance : at the 'first: public
hearing , , A. 'i'i ..t because this plan shows no major changes .
' .. f•.. F•Ih'IhfE5.. f , seconded . Carried unanimously .
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J OHN AND SYLVIA HICKS MAJOR SUBDIVISION : WATERWAGON ROAD
Mr . George SC" h 1. t:i? t= h t , Professional l.. ng ]. i"it': { '. ?... n appeared for
John and Sylvia Hicks and presented ;a Sketch Plan and
P reliminary Engineering St: t . dy dated December 5 ,. 19 e ..
Mr .. S r h'? l e c h"s t stated that lo 't: s have three 1:+ 'i' more -i' eet: of soil on
t: htem than expected , with the exception of lots # 4 sand ih5 . Based
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on this , the Preliminary Plan has been altered 't: {.+ i 'ilc" lt.t +:.1e"? three
additional i. t ioncal. 1. { • ts .. The lots now total 22 1t1 ?: tea {:. of 19 .
,., . h'{ t..11._ l.« .f::sl':.IE:.. questioned if there was any open land left , and M .{.. .
S c:: ht 1. es {.. i i t: replied that t: !`sC:: r- t o is not much .
C . k:. `s N! °Jf:. N moved that the Preliminary Plat be approved st_tt; ;ier_: t. to
Town Engineer ' s cApri ?-' t.+ vat .(. n r.:l ? ( d approval 3. (r+ '. Tompkins t.. C+ t..tr'it . Health
D epartment .
R . HAGIN seconded .
t..: .. k ri }"{ Nil: . h�l directed d htx:tt: an at'1c:le:+ 'r. t.+ the amendment b made that
S conditions of approval wc+ t..t1. t:i include review h , ,f f"! r" .. Miller , review
by Public Health Department , atrtd completion of SEOR process .
Carried:i. ed t..tnaniiTiCtuss .l. y u
P ublic . ! e:, a . ir. y 'f t. 'i'• Preliminary P .i. at: Final Apl::ii"' t.+ • a1. -for.. Hicks
S ubdivisionwill be scheduled for Jant..ta ?... .y, 9 1989 .
t..: . K F=s1`'1 h'1 E N is liaison 7frt.+ m t i s e Planning [„t {-. tir- t::i Ta ri d Hicks
S ubdivision .
EASTLAKE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AREA
Ernie Bayles presented :asketch {rsCa. p requesting approval , '?
I o t # 44 single being d i v i. d e ? d into i: '. -f i::� r n i. 1. : ' lots .
at t: ht C last 1, rrsc: et: i. r iC1 was an initial presentation . Tonight t a
d eveloper ' s conference .
Ence
N! r .. Bayles submitted ::t letter suggesting t; h-sat this i. s:`o a minor
chtartge instead of a major one . 1...1e stated that: the intent is to
d evelop land at:, has been approved .
C: 4 f:. AM ! . !'.l questioned if M r .. Bayles has approval 'fr {:, ni t I't ta= Tompkins
County Health Department nt 'for two septic systems on lot #44 ..
It was suggested !. haat the Covenants of Eastlake Planned
Development Area be reviewed and as .report on them be made to the
P lanning Board . 1. t 4•J a s also suggested that t r". e Planning Board
needs as statement fr' C+ {r. the Town Board that that Board has
reviewed C. ltt:tn (4 {::taw Also needed 1. 4::, c-. Tompkins 1. i . County Health
D epartment statement of approval .
M .. It 1 `r` l.. E Si submitted Cheryl A . Nickel ' s Statement o «f Intent .
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GULF CREEK SUBDIVISION
Mr . Ernie Bayles presented a map of the subdivision . There
is a difference between 1.- I.. e:? Sketch Plan C:{ n'i . Map presented . The
portion t o t: h'i e? North i`i t+ tt'J shows 12 lots . T 1 i e portion to t; h't es: South
shows 23 . This is a total of 35 lots .
A question w c:{ s raised whether I"I i" . r'f a t'i c+ c+ ]. would ICY t.i • • in ;=i
connecting r- {; Mct to Gulf Creek .
t_. ,. hsf-lARF". , ; ; T' Er: rJ commented that tl"ie:? Town F{ C+ (: 'i" {::1 wi. :l .l. not build 'i' i", aC:l ' 5 „
CHAIRMAN WHITE suggested th; at: t i"'{ e; developer plan �� i r building «.
connecting road to t h"{ e: M ct h'i o o :l. property as the Board 'fel. 't; t: 1"i e-: need
f or c_: {::+ r'i is way et ✓ ;:, t..t t rofGulf Creek .
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The Planning Board i " suggested ::+. need for a letter from t I l: f i i ? Town
B oard stating that water will be available in the future to these
• lots . Also needed is Tompkins County Health Department approval ,
on L
_, an updateupdatlotth8 ,
M ta 'i ' tlrl { Je? study approved 1_Y y' I` Ir" „ Miller ,
and also a conference with P`I 'i" „ r'Ic;. h +.:+ e+ l regarding connecting road .
MR . ksra '';'' l. ES stated that he would like this presentation to be
labeled as " Date {_+ f Presentment . "
✓ . MULLANE stated that the Planning Board needs time to study the
material presented tonight and presently the lack of a second
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entrance 't.. Gulf Creek is of great concern .
C . Kr r'iM (": N suggested that the drainage needs to be considered .
I_ .. ti :th VC.1N . N remarked that Mr . Bayles does very { food work
MAHOOL_... SUBD M S I SN
Mike Schwartz , Landscape r _ 1r ? . r with Fred Thomas
A s {_+ t." :1. s 't: eb n representing Mr . r`I i.='t I i {_+ o .I. ,, presented cit Final
P reliminary
.. 1 i r. { i. ri <'::� i"",� k: e k: c" !-; { + property c:+ hie 'i 't: C� i'i Shore Drive and
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E ast Shore Circle .
For r t: h`{ e record , Chairman White said 't: I"i • t: r'I i" ., Miller called
1"i i. m and fa f: { 1::, r" e? s nre: d satisfaction wi. t; hl location {::t .i roads in this
Final Preliminary Sketch . However , t: I"i e? Planning s• t_+ <':ai' is needs t;
letter of approval from M r- . Miller .
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The e- I ii al Preliminary .} 1.;. e •t; t_ I'1 i. to to be made
into cj Final Drawing
by the end f this month and t 1'; c: Planning Board i that
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the revised final plat needs to meet withMr . Miller ' s
conditions .
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HILLCREST• SUBDIVISION
George Sa_ i ( ? c. "t t representing . 'i" : L.t 'V 'i" s11 t:: v pi"' t : ::s : . il 't: C:: C. a
sketch 1lcai i . There ere c• t"' c:: 5 lots on 't: t'i t: Southwest s-si (::Ie of L•9 i l i {-: r c:-: t: t
Road .
As previously i"' cxctt_tes::str. : ct by 't: t•i ' Planning L t:+ r r Ct n C'I r .. t:3 C: ti l t..? +»_ I...i t.:
presented r"it drainage map . A close look o was i fft +iitde as to the effect
of drainage to t t t { :? West . M r" . `r i c:: {"i l {c?c t i t: stated that 't: I"tr 'i" e is no
chance S .C.+ any adverse effects .
If sewer weficome down Li H ] 1l a _ = tRoad a t ri { flow G J Southwest
to Warren RC:+ :::'at:i n there is no reason sewage could not be
accommodated .
This st_t !:] cii \/ 1Si. C? 'r'i doesnot fall 4'it: I"iin State Subdivision of
Underground d t_iti. li. ti { s ..
L_ ,. S !• IA } tPf:: TEEhal asked about minimizing curb cuts .
_.' .. t•.. i t°1 F.. N suggested driveways could be adjacent t: t:+ property line +-s
to create fewer curb cuts .
• MR . SCHLECI-ITn " How would you l .`LI :: r.": to handle that ? Drawings tonight
are marked " Preliminary . '
It was suggested that the Planning Board might accept pt a statement
from Mr . Schil. ] c. . it that he will make thr" ee driveways .
I-.. „ Hl1 +' VONEN suggested that a notation be made on map filed that we
show three driveways .
MR ., I:::: UVRAI •D stated that three driveways could be made .
Mr . St:.-. tilec»ht wil. l set up as date for Ga Public Hearing with George
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MEADOW _ RIDGE_ SUBDIVISION
Mr . Douglas I-•Icti i 1 .... presented a revised !:. ( :' 't: (... i'i plan . The
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revisions tti+ ( Z 'i" { ? suggested at i previous meeting of the Planning
Board . This r" F ` ''✓ i S e d p 1 1 ri showed fewer . t_t r” V.. • - t_{ 't: ~": n s ti G:a ' eke (::I
lett + , r ,
{:i t»' :i. ✓ { '. 4J r"•t . .. 4 tc+. t i L. t'I . .. Harr :1. ... i r" cc? s F 't i t: t 1: 1 r.'a f.:: 'i from t'•t 1' , t L::. �:.7 i a is t '4' 3 i i. lig
" that : i e transmission easement .aa1. C:+ i'i {_:7 Beckwith 1Cen Town ( 'f
Lansing , t ( e ! _ Ctrestrict the property from ingress and
Cr .,.: ctI,.. 'r" C? `:s `: . said easement area . "
The Planning Board suggested that the plan show two separate
• I.adjoining :, . .
driveways Ll t..t 't: with ca property line eit 1. i"'t between .
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The !. ct t"t 'i"i 3 'i i t-f Board needs i t statement of intent on 1 + ! iT .l. t GJ ly ^i
wording on sketch plan c: l-ii:ant:.! etita ra letter 'fr` c:+ m Tompkins County
H ealth Department , S F::. L:? I••i Form i ieeds to be filed , and !da statement
o n drainage .
C . F :: i"il''! h'! EN moved that the Planning Board accept sketch plan .
L . SHARPSTEEN seconded . { f t i e1 unanimously .
Chairman WI"iit: e is liaison
person t i ("i this proposed !=il_th::+ { ) :1. Y` 3. c3. {_+ i s ,.
CLIFFORD BUCK MINOR SUBDIVISION
Sketch 1 hJ1c_lr`i ::ii for two minor subdivisions were presented t= ::if: 'ri 'h: Fi" to
the !=Tanning Board . The Planning Board suggested that: the right
o f - way be increased to 60 feet ,t c.ciiC ! _ _ h: houses r' ..:i fi < + t:" ! :: far enough so
✓ oad C' ct 1 "i be 60 feet w3t: li3
C . KAMMl.. N moved that the Planning Board accept two t'fi :i. nC+ r..
subdivisions , first sketch as C. one , second sketch as one , 60 feet
✓ ight - of - way , ct r i {.t t £' i"i feet ki:' a : K?' i'fie 'i i '1: if Conlon Road is 50 feet
w ide .
• ._ „ cr •'! i-1F { F ' r.:, 7k_ r_ \j l> C:: C: C+ i"i Redd I.: Cari" 3. tail .lricaiiilT'n:+ t..t _: 1 /
KENNEDY SUBDIVISION
Mr . Greg Travis presented :'::i. Preliminary Sketch Plan of
f ` i"' {-+ p C:+ .. ... {::Ip� 1lotsllocatedt::+ '1' . IRoute .34BiandlLansing: .l u t. l :L ' l 3. ...J 3. {::+ r'i + '1 t �._ .
S tation Road .
It w a <.s rioted that 1. c:+ t. 11• "T contains wetland ct 'i i d this wetland would
be part of l c.+ t: # 7p and it would not be builtupon or filled in .
All lots care minimum of one acre .
The Tompkins Count ,` Health Department h <:as : looked at J • lots .
l._ .. fai...if• F{ i=' u7 _l.. Et ' !':! moved that the Planning Board accept Preliminary
S ketch Plan . i.: .. Ki-. M . . . :: !'.! seconded . Carried unanimously .
MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 282 _ 1988
C .. KA !"Ih°1f:N moved that: the Planning Board accept t: l"Ie minutes of
N ovember 28 , 1988 . F= ., i (1141I hd seconded . Minutes approved .
Meeting adjourned 10 : 20 P . M .
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