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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-02-22 1 pr TOWN OP LANSING PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF FEBRUARY 22 , 1988 PRESENT : Chairman Alvin White , Carol Kammen , Fran Ramin , Herb Beckwith , Larry Sharpsteen , Linda Hirvonen ; ALSO : George Totman , Louis Emmick , Gary Wood ABSENT : John Homa , Viola Miller Mullane CHAIRMAN WHITE called the meeting to order . He suggested that the Board make a resolution to thank John Homa for his contri - butions , since John has submitted a letter of resignation . CHAIRMAN WHITE made a motion that the Board accept John ' s resignation . LINDA HIRVONEN seconded . CHAIRMAN WHITE requested that a copy of the letter of resigna - tion be included with the minutes . CHAIRMAN WHITE reported to the Planning Board that he attended last week ' s Town Board meeting . And he stated that Mr . Leathers was at that meeting and made a presentation to the Board . The Town has agreed to form a water district , which will include the Mahool development , the Leathers development , and the future • development of the Lane property . ROBERT LEATHERS - " DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE " Mr . Ernie Bailes stated that they are working with George Schlecht as engineer on the culverts . FRAN RAMIN made a motion to accept the Preliminary Plat ; CAROL KAMMEN seconded the motion . Mr . Bailes felt that they had complied with all of the Town Planning Board ' s rules , regulations , and guidelines for the acceptance of the Preliminary Plat . But he asked for two exceptions : He requested a four - foot wide shoulder as opposed to six - foot wide from station 82 to station 83 ; and to use a 70 - foot turnaround as opposed to the 150 that was asked for . He pointed out that by making it 150 , it would inhibit the Dykemans and Thomases from ever further developing their properties . Mr . Bailes explained to the Board members that he would propose : a speed limit , a maximum of 10 miles an hour for that section of the road . Mrs . Leathers stated that they have a letter from the bank stating their approval for the financing for this property . Mr . Bailes stated that they are in the process of obtaining right - of - ways or easements from the Thomases and the Dykemans . 411 Mrs . Leathers said that she would provide the Board with a copy of the letter . - 2 - • LARRY SHARPSTEEN stated reservations about reducing the width of the turnaround , due to the fact that it would make it very difficult for emergency equipment to have reasonable access . CHAIRMAN WHITE asked if any of the Board members had any further questions . LINDA HIRVONEN stated her concern about the drainage . She requested that the Board look at a very detailed drainage plan , to include specifications for each lot . LARRY SHARPSTEEN proposed an amendment of the motion before the Board to include the conditions that the approval would be pending recommendations of the Town Engineer of the road , and drainage . THE MOTION was passed unanimously ; no opposed . CHAIRMAN WHITE stated that any additional development restric - tions required by the Planning Board , and written recommendations should be filed with the Town Zoning Enforcement Officer . GARY WOOD said he thought that the Planning Board has to hold a second public hearing . MR . BAILES inquired as to whether there was any reason the Board could not grant a building permit for the house on that property , 411 even though he might eventually end up with only the one house with all that land . The Board members all agreed that could be done . TRANSONICS Cornelius Drost reported that he is now working with Tom Miller ' s office , and they are drawing up the specs right now . The engineering work for the road is underway . The road will be a 60 - foot right - of - way . The drainage plan will be added later . Mr . Drost stated that he wrote a letter to the Town Board about the water , and that he had a verbal agreement that water can be supplied . He also reported that everyone buying a building lot has to commit themselves to public water . LINDA HIRVONEN inquired as to whether that meant there was already water there or it would be a new water district . Mr . Drost said that the water district will be coming up in the near future . LINDA HIRVONEN stated that the Planning Board will need a letter of intent . Mr . Drost agreed to comply . Mr . Drost assured the Board that the water line would be built to Town specifications . CHAIRMAN WHITE had a question about the drainage , what was going to happen to the three feet of water that appears there every year . Mr . Drost said that it would be a lot less once the ditches are put in . CHAIRMAN WHITE asked where the locations of those • ditches were going to be . Mr . Drost said they go across Lucente ' s property , and that Mr . Lucente had agreed to let them do that . The Planning Board requested a letter to that affect . The Board also requested a drainage study . • THE BOARD had some questions about the kinds of companies that might be built in the commercial part of this development . They were particularly concerned about the paved parking lots , the run - off and the drainage . LINDA HIRVONEN stated that she felt maximum building sizes should be restricted . She also stated that the Board was opposed to pIana • that puts drainage on to some - one else ' s property . CAROL KAMMEN stated that the Planning Board would send their requirements to the Town Board . LINDA HIRVONEN said Mr . Drost would receive a list of requirements from the Planning Board , and that he should furnish the Planning Board with a statement of intent as to how he will comply with those requirements . The Planning Board will then recommend to the Town Board whether t hey should be approved or disapproved . LINDA HIRVONEN also stated that with a positive recommendation from the Planning B oard , Mr . Drost could expect to go into a Public Hearing within 30 to 45 days . CHAIRMAN WHITE moved that the Planning Board accept the proposal as a Preliminary Plat , contingent upon the drainage study being supplied , the letter from Mr . Lucente concerning the drainage , and a general statement of funding . • LARRY SHARPSTEEN had a question about whether the proposed $ 10 , 000 bond was large enough . LINDA HIRVONEN expressed the same reservations . CHAIRMAN WHITE stated that he felt it was sufficient , but it was still up to the Town Board to make the final determination . CAROL KAMMEN was concerned that if UPS moves into the commercial part of the development , they would be moving trailers in and o ut of there . She felt that the Board should have some control as to where and when . CHAIRMAN WHITE pointed out that UPS is already doing that in Lansing now . THE MOTION was seconded by HERB BECKWITH that the Planning Board approve this proposal as a Preliminary Plat , with the noted ✓ ecommendations for improvements , to submit to the Town Board for their action . THE BOARD members agreed that building height restrictions should be stated in the deed restrictions . THE MOTION was passed unanimously , with no opposed . ADAMS - LARRY SHARPSTEEN submitted a proposal to the Planning Board , which he thought would solve the problem of the dead - end road . CHAIRMAN WHITE inquired as to how the members felt about a divided ✓ oad , such as LARRY just outlined . LINDA HIRVONEN stated that if the design standards were done properly that it would be very acceptable . CHAIRMAN WHITE agreed . He said that it would alleviate Mr . Adams ' situation with regard to the excessive length - 4 - • of the dead - end road . CHAIRMAN WHITE said that the Board would be in favor of road , which at the end of completing Lots 2 , 3 , and 4 , would split into a two - lane road ; with a twenty - foot median strip and an increased right - of - way of a minimum of 90 feet . He also said that the Board would consider a turnaround at the end of this divided access road , basically considering that a circle , according to Town regulations - - a circle of no less than 150 feet radius . But he also stated that the Board would be happy to entertain suggestions from Mr . Adams ' engineering staff as to an alternative . B ECKWITH SUBDIVISION - - HERB - BECKWITH stated that there was really no such thing as a Beckwith Sub - division . Harriett Moore , a real estate sales - person would like to sell apiece of property . The problem is t hat there is a New York State Electric and Gas right of way , where a high line runs within fifty feet all along the property ; which makes it impossible to get a sixty - foot right - of - way down t hrough that property . LARRY SHARPSTEEN inquired as to whether the Board could grant a waiver on the grounds of hardship . CHAIRMAN WHITE suggested that HERB BECKWITH send Harriett Moore • a letter stating that it is a Town road , and the Planning Board is concerned about crossing a New York State Electric and Gas right - of - way at the lower end . HERB BECKWITH placed a motion before the Board in regards to the Leo Mahool major subdivision in regards to his water . HERB stated that the Board has received a letter from Mr : Mahool ' s , attorneys . HERB says that was the only thing the Planning Board requested in order to approve Mr . Mahool ' s plat before going t o the Town Board . LARRY SHARPSTEEN seconded the motion . . . THE MOTION was unanimously passed ; no opposed . LARRY SHARPSTEEN suggested that a copy of the letter be included with the minutes . WALKER MOBILE HOME PARK - HERB BECKWITH reported that he had gone over the mobile home ordinances along with Gary Wood ' s recommendations . CHAIRMAN WHITE made a motion to accept HERB BECKWITH ' s plans . CAROL KAMMEN seconded . • THE MOTION was passed unanimously ; no opposed . - 5 - . , 411 GARY WOOD recommended that a letter be sent to Mr . Adams concerning LARRY ' s resolution . THE PLANNING BOARD decided to hold a Public Hearing on the Walker Mobile Home Park . THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING will be held on Monday , March 14 , 1988 . 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