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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-01-11 1 t TOWN OF LANSING 111 PLANNING BOARD JANUARY 11 , 1988 PRESENT : John Homa , Chairman ; Herb Beckwith ; Fran Ramin , Larry Sharpsteen , Carol Kammen , Linda Hirvonen , Al White , George Totman . ABSENT : Viola Miller Mullane The monthly meeting for the Town of Lansing Planning Board commenced at approximately 7 : 30 p . m . at the Lansing Town Hall . Introductions of all the Town Board members were made , as well as John Kelleher , the Town Attorney . It was announced that Thaler and Thaler would be the attorneys for the Town . Richard Thaler is the senior partner . He announced that either he or Mr . Kelleher would be available at any meeting fow which the Lansing Town P lanning Board required an attorney . Chairman Homa announced that Louis Emmick is to be the Town P lanning Board ' s representative . • Al White made a Motion to approve the minutes for the December 14th , 1987 meeting , and Linda Hirvonen seconded the motion . The motion was unanimously approved , with no opposed . John Homa reported that each sub - division would be assigned to an individual Board member as contact person and that each would be responsible for following their assignment through , keeping the file , etc . Carol Kammen reported that she had attended the Town Board ' s meeting the previous Wednesday , and that they had agreed to adjust and renew terms for the Planning Board : Viola Miller Mullane ' s term is to end on December 31st , 1990 ; John Homa ' s term runs from January 1988 to December 31st , 1994 ; Linda Hirvonen ' s term runs from January 1988 to December 31 , 1993 ; Carol Kammen ' s term runs from November 1984 to December 31 , 1988 . Carol stated that the Town had promised to send a letter stating these changes . Carol also stated that the Town Board agreed to have a joint meeting with the Planning Board to discuss land use , e specially along Route 34 ; and to discuss environmental problems o f the Town . The date of the meeting is February 3rd , 1988 , at 7 : 30 p . m . • - 2 - Carol Kammen placed into nomination the following names for • the Town Planning Board : For Chairperson , Al White ; For Vice - Chairperson , Fran Ramin ; for Treasurer , Larry Sharpsteen ; for Secretary , Linda Hirvonen ; for Assistant Secretary , Carol Kammen ; for Subdivision Clerk , John Homa . Carol made a motion to adopt this slate , Linda Hirvonen seconded . The motion was passed unanimously , with no opposed . Chairman Homa announced that there would be a meeting on January 25th with Tom Neiderkorn . He also stated that he had had a meeting with Jeannine Kirby, and they had discussed the problems of having smaller water districts . It seems that the more water districts , the more headaches they have with billing , etc . Chairman Homa announced that the assignments for the sub - divisions were : Carol Kammen for Thaler ; Linda Hirvonen for Lusk ; Herb Beckwith for Mahool ; Larry Sharpsteen for Cima ; Fran Ramin for Leathers . Chairman Homa said he would be responsible for O ' Rear . The first item on the agenda for the evening was Leo Mahool , with a subdivision on East Shore Drive . Gary Wood gave a report on the status . He stated that the • Planning Board had given preliminary plat approval in November , contingent on two things : the status of public water , and approval of the street by the Town Highway Department . He read a statement from Howard Groat : I have reviewed the plans submitted for a road in the proposed development and find them to be in compliance with the Town of Lansing specs . I have talked with Tom Miller , and he says the negotiating with HUD is not yet final for running water down Route 34 . If you can wait a few months , we should be able to advise you better . " There was a discussion that Mr . Mahool thought there was going to be a public hearing at this January meeting . Since it was not scheduled , it was agreed to be held at the following meeting , in February . After further discussion , it was decided the public hearing would be held on January 25th . Linda Hirvonen suggested to Mr . Mahool that he work with Herb Beckwith and talk with Jeannine Kirby about his concerns on the water district . Richard Thaler stated that a public hearing could not be held until that contingency was removed . Chairman Homa clarified that a public hearing would not be held on the 25th . Charles Tallman stated that no matter whether or not the • Town did develop that water district , that Mr . Mahool had agreed to provide adequate water for his subdivision , at his own expense . - 3 - • Mr . Leathers stated that he was advised that the best place to get water was from the hydrant situated on the southeast corner of his property . He stated that it was a Village hydrant , and he was told that it was not unusual to get an agreement from the Village to use it . Chairman Homa discussed the fact that the HUD proposal would assure future back -up water supply , and that Mr . Mahool and Mr . Leathers should explore it with the supervisor . The next order on the agenda , Cornelius Drost - - proposed industrial park - - P . D . A . or Sub - Division . George Totman stated that after a discussion with Mr . Drost , that Mr . Drost had decided that it would be in his best interest to pursue a P . D . A . Mr . Cornelius Drost discussed his proposed industrial park , which is to be situated on a forty - acre parcel above the Cornell Research Park on Warren Road . He stated this was contingent upon getting rezoning to a light industrial area . He requested approval for selling off two road frontage lots and getting a building permit for the back of the lot . He stated that these two front lots would be sold off as light industrial lots . • Linda Hirvonen questioned Mr . Drost as to why he was asking for a PDA rather than the light industrial zoning . Mr . Drost replied that it was due to the time factor involved . He believed it was faster in a PDA procedure . There was a discussion on the proposed road . The Board would like to see a better road , with an easement or a loop of some kind that would ensure safe traffic flow . Chairman Homa suggested that Mr . Drost check with the local fire department , the highway superintendent , and the Town attorney . Chairman Homa stated that the water question would have to be answered , and he was also concerned about drainage . Linda Hirvonen requested more information about the location of the proposed buildings , and the size and location of the parking lots that would go with them , as well as more topographical informa - tion . She was also concerned with the proposed drainage . There was also a discussion about the financial backing . The Board needs to know that if they approve a PDA that it will be completed as designed . The Board requested a letter of financial backing , either from an institution or a private source . • - - I - 4 - • Mr . Drost stated that he was hoping to complete the project u sing the moneys from the sale of the lots . The nest item on the agenda was Bob Leathers , regarding his sub - division , East Lake , on Route 34 . Mr . Leathers stated that he had come up with a brochure which contains land use restrictions and architectural and land - scaping requirements , plus guidelines for future owners of the land . He explained that his objective was to create an environ - ment that contains architecture and landscaping that will be compatible with the area as it exists . Mr . Leathers stated that he did have a definite purchase o ffer . But he was looking for approval for what he was proposing . He stated that he was advised the Ag . District restriction would be removed when the back taxes were paid by Mr . Hicks and that it was written into the purchase offer that when they close , the back taxes would be paid . He also stated that an agreement had been reached with the adjacent land owners , the Thomases and the Dykmans . The Board agreed that they would like a letter for their file regarding the removal of the Ag . District restriction from • these lands . The ownership issue was discussed . Mr . Leathers stated that he needed approval for the project in order for ownership to be established . Mr . Wood stated that he thought the Board could accept it as a preliminary plat approval , and then a public hearing could be held . The Board could then review the Environmental Assessment form , and determine whether it has significant impact before the Board makes its final decision . Mr . Thaler inquired as to whether Mr . Leathers had a letter stating that he would be permitted to take water from the Village hydrant for the property . Mr . Leathers said that he did not . He had spoken with Tom Miller , and Mr . Miller had advised him that the Town should approach the Village . Mr . Leathers stated that HUD approval had not yet been obtained for the Town to connect a water loop . He hoped the water issue would be resolved by the time the public hearing comes up . In any event , Mr . Leathers stated that water would be provided from a public water source as opposed to private wells . Carol Kammen stated a concern about the road being longer than 600 feet . Mr . Leathers said it was a good possibility that he may be able to tie in a loop with the Mahool property at some point in the future . He was hoping to obtain a right - o f -way across the Lane property to accomplish this . Al White • pointed out that this was of some concern to the Fire Department in trying to get emergency equipment down there between Route 34 and the lake level . - 5 - 111 Mr . Leathers stated that the entire road would be deeded over to the Town , and that the road was being done according to Town specs . Chairman Homa told Mr . Leathers that he would be working with Fran Ramin as his contact person . The next order of business on the agenda was the Lusk Sub - Division . Cal Warren presented a new plan , incorporating a loop , which the Board had requested at the December meeting . Cal also presented the Board with a copy of the proposed deed restrictions . He stated that the development would be all single - family housing . Cal Warren stated that the Health Department had given approval and that there was ample land to put in the septic systems . The development would be provided with public water from the Town from an eight - inch water main that supplies Woods Edge . He also stated that the road going to Woods Edge was a Town dedicated road . Comments from the residents of Woods Edge have been favorable . There was a discussion about the requirement of 100 feet of road frontage . Louis Emmick reminded the Board that the road to Woods Edge had purposely been stopped so as to keep the lands • peaceful . Cal stated that the sellers of the property were concerned that some of the lots would be developed commercially . Cal reiterated that this would be a residential development , and . indeed some of the lots were already spoken for . Cal Warren said that he was hoping to obtain approval at this meeting , as far as the sketch plan . He also gave the Board members a copy of the environmental assessment form for their perusal . Al White made a motion to accept the preliminary sketch plan and that the Board waive the 100 feet frontage requirements on Lots 10 and 15 . Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion . The motion was carried unanimously , with no opposed . Linda Hirvonen stated that she would be the contact person for this proposed development . The next order of business was a proposed mobile home park , presented by Michael and Sally Walker . Gary Wood stated that t his proposal was not submitted according to procedure . He said t hat it should have been submitted in duplicate to the Code Enforcement officer . He would then submit it to the Boards with h is recommendations . - 6 - Mro Wood said that he would like to have copies of the final plane He would then proceed to go over them and then present them to the two Boards along with his recommendations . H e hoped to be able to do this by the next Board meeting . The next order of business was a proposed subdivision to extend one lot , by Mr . Bertrand Buck . Larry Sharpsteen stated that Mr . Buck was having some difficulty in obtaining informa - t ion from New York State Electric & Gas as to where the property line actually was in regards to their right -of -way . There was a discussion about land extensions being approved by the Board in the past . Linda Hirvonen stated that she thought a limit should be put on the amount of land . Carol Kammen had reservations about the procedures they had been following in the past . Chairman Homa requested that Linda Hirvonen write a letter t o Mr . Buck stating that . the Board had found that the land was outside of the subdivision , that it ' s larger than three acres , and has more than the required frontage . Mr . Buck stated that he was not asking for a decision on the proposed subdivision on his property until he obtained the necessary information from New York State Electric & Gas on the 411 property lines . Carol Kammen stated that she had made a tentative agreement with Jo Ann Vliet , the secretary , that the Board would use her for three months . At the end of the three months she and the Chairman could discuss whether or not she should continue . Either the Board could decide or she could make a decision as to whether she wanted to continue or not . Al White thanked the representative from the Town Board and the two Town attorneys for attending the meeting . Herb Beckwith made a motion to adjourn , Larry Sharpsteen seconded . The motion was carried unanimously , with no opposed . The meeting adjourned at 11 : 17 p . m . Respectfully submitted , Jo Ann Vliet J 1 1