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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-01-13 TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD DATE : 1 / 13 / 86 TIME : 7 : 06 P . M . PRESENT : L . Hirvonen , Chair ; V . Miller ; L . Sharpsteen ; Homa ; F . Ramin ; A . White GUESTS : G . Wood , Ordinance Officer ; R . Williamson , Tc T . Miller , Town Engineer ; T . Niederkorn , Planner 1 . Minutes of the previous meeting were not available . 2 . J . Homa , Treasurer , reported that there were no outstanding bills . 3 . There was a change in the agenda . Some new Business was discussed while awaiting resource people necessary to the discussions of New Business . 4 . Agenda Item IV-A . ( New Business , Rick Cowles - Burdick Hill Rd . subdivision ) : L . Hirvonen noted that the Lansing Town Board had passed a resolution on October 7 , 1986 which provided that where land parcels split with 50 % or more in the Village of Lansing , then Village of Lansing , rather than Town of Lansing zoning would apply . Cowles ' current development is thus a Village matter at the moment . Future development ( a major subdivision ) goes north of the Village and will be a Planning Board matter . J . Homa noted that the driveways should empty into a new road , not onto Burdick Hill Road . Moved by C . Kammen , 2nd by Fran Ramin that the Planning Board send a letter to Barbara Irish , Village of Lansing Zoning Officer that : a . acknowledges the precedence of the Village in this matter , and b . notes the preference of the Town of Lansing Planning Board that the driveways not empty onto Burdick Hill Road . PASSED UNANIMOUSLY . L . Sharpsteen will send the letter . Copy wil be sent to Rick Cowles . 5 . Agenda item IV-B ( New Business , Thaler - Hillcrest Rd . subdivision ) : L . Hirvonen noted that the Planning Board had received a copy of a letter from the Tompkins County Health Dept . dated 12/ 6 / 85 regarding the first seven acres to be developed . She further noted that the Lansing Highway Dept . had built a 40 - foot culvert to access the property . Gary Wood , Ordinance Officer and Burr Phelps will meet with the Thalers 1 / 14/86 . The results of that conference will be reported at the next Planning Board meeting . Eventually , the Thalers plan an 80 - acre subdivision , going north from Hillcrest Rd . L . Hirvonen told the Board that " we are now considering two subdivisions in this area , one minor and one major . That area is becoming very built up . " The members of the Board discussed the various special areas , especially a ravine , in the Burdick Hill Road/Hillcrest Road areas . Some attention to preserving natural areas and open space needs to be made . One member • felt that some possibility of looking into a " critical area " designation for some parts of it would be a good idea . 6 . Agenda item IV-C ( New Business , New member ) : S teve Rollins was never re- appointed to the Board last January . Jane 010 Horkey , Town Clerk will notify him that he is " officially " off the Board . He probably never knew he wasn ' t . The Town Board would like the P lanning Board to consider Herb Beckwith representing the W est -Northwest portions of the Town . Mr . Beckwith lives on Ross Road . Another name brought forward for Planning Board membership is that of George Sheldon of Ridge Road . Still another is Barney Termina of Triphammer Terrace . Larry Sharpsteen noted that Herb Beckwith is an agricultural engineer . He attended Lansing High School and Alfred College . George Sheldon and Barney Termina were known to other members o f the Board . It was thought that any of them would be a good member . The consensus of the group was to submit the names of Herb Beckwith and Barney Termina to the Town Board for appointment to the Planning Board . Only one position is open . whoever is not appointed and George Sheldon w ill be kept on the list for appointment next year if still available to serve . Larry Sharpsteen will send the letter to the Town Board . 7 . Agenda item III -A ( Old Business , Rocco Lucente - PUD ) : G . Wood provided maps of the proposed development . Members reviewed the proposal for a Planned Development Area submitted to them by Mr . L ucente on December 4 , 1985 ( attached ) . Mr . Lucente proposes to build 1061 apartment units on 132 acres in staged development over the next 20 years . Phase I will take some 5 - 10 years ; Phase II a similar period . L . Hirvonen had earlier distributed a Planned Development Area Time 1110 Line ( attached ) to the members of the Board . This was consulted . She pointed out to the members that the items included under " 1 . sketch plan " and " 2 . written explanation of character and purpose of PDA " have been mostly complied with by Mr . Lucente . She explained that the Board h ad 45 days from Dec . 4 , 1985 , consider the PDA proposal in terms of the general Health , Safety , and impacts on adjacent properties . She asked t he members of the Board to express their concerns about the project . Concerns expressed were : Drainage : G . Wood said that it was appropriate for the Planning Board to request that the rate of runoff NOT be increased by the development . Tom Miller , Town Engineer , asked if a drainage plan had been submitted . L . Sharpsteen said yes , a preliminary one . T . Miller noted that a formal engineering report showing calculations should have accompanied the drainage plan . T . Miller noted that an engineering report could be ✓ equired that showed that the direction of run- off would not be changed and that the rate would not be changed . Al White thought that the wetland into which the proposed development area drains would be unaffected by the increased rate of - ! ✓ un-off . Other Board members were concerned about the impact o f the development on that wetland area , which is privately . owned . I Parking : Current high - density development codes require 1 . 5 parking spaces per unit . The PDA designation allows the Planning Board to require more . L . Sharpsteen felt that the • planned parking amount was inadequate . After much discussion the Board members decided that they would ask Mr . Lucente to plan for 2 parking spaces per unit , with a yearly review . It was further suggested that the Board ask Mr . Lucente for a paving schedule for the parking areas . Garbage : Board members were concerned about the siting of dumpsters , collection schedules , and the general appearance of waste disposal facilities . It was noted that these kinds of considerations can be reviewed in more detail at the Design Phase approval point , but that some notice to Mr . Lucente of these concerns should be made now . Utilities : Several different concerns about utilities were expressed . These included : A . stipulating that all utilities be located underground , B . stipulating that all utilities be constructed to standards set by the Town engineer , C . asking that Lucente investigate tying into public water and sewer systems as available now and in the future , D . stipulating that Lucente would hook into public water and sewer systems as they become available , During the discussion of utility concerns the Board decided that they would write to the Town Board suggesting that a • Water District be formed which would include the area that Mr . Lucente plans to develop and other areas as well . Mr . Miller felt that a Town Water District was preferable to a Water District formed merely for this one or a few nearby developments . The Board felt that it was a greater advantage to the Town and to Lucente to form as large a Water District as possible , fairly soon . Sewer districts seemed more complicated , but equally desireable in the long run . General Aesthestics : Among the concerns here were sidewalks ( or the lack thereof , including a walkway from various buildings to the planned community center and commercial area . Another concern was the overall appearance of the initial 27 18 - unit buildings and the final overall appearance of the planned 75 18 - unit buildings . Environmental Impact : It was decided to request of Mr . Lucente that he provide the Board with a completed Environmental Assessment Form for the meeting on January 27 , 1986 . It was further felt that a full Environmental Impact Statement would probably be necessary and that Mr . Lucente should be informed of this feeling by the Board at that meeting . Moreover , it was decided that the Board would stipulate that he file copies of applications and forms provided to the Health Dept . and DEC and any replies from those agencies with the Lansing Planning Board . In line with this discussion it was noted that within 30 days of the mailing of the EAF , a lead agency would have to be designated for environmental impact monitoring . It was unclear as to whether the Town would have to request that they be the lead agency if the Planning Board wanted to monitor environmental impacts . I Approvals : Members of the Board wanted to know if the Lucente development could be approved in stages . The answer • was " yes " , as little as 10 % can be approved and approvals may be conditional upon compliance with the stipulations made by the Board in terms of granting a PDA designation . 8 . Agenda item III -B ( Old Business , Land Use Management/Water D istrict : Background : The Town received funding for a Water District . As a result of water being available , development other than just residential is possible . To protect those residents who receive water from uncontrolled development , the Town Board asked the Planning Board t o do a land use study . Tom Neiderkorn and Viola Miller explained that zoning in the Town is limited and the zoning ordinance in effect is less than was proposed or desired . In revising it , we should be aware that there is some value to zoning but that we cannot go too far too fast . Tom Neiderkorn urged that the Board get something done within the next six months in order to avoid election - year pressures on legislators . He thought that what could be accomplished would be to clean up the existing ordinance and expand it slightly . Tom will provide Board members with a zoning map to use in conjunction with the survey forms distributed earlier and redistributed at this meeting . Members are asked to fill out the forms , consulting t he Land Use Control Ordinance . Carol Kammen will collate the results . Al White and Fran Ram in and the new member to be appointed by the • Town Board need copies of the zoning ordinance and the Development Policy and General Plan (Aug . , 1982 rev . ) . The second meeting of each month will be devoted to the Land Use P lanning effort . The next meeting on which this will occur is scheduled for February 17 , 1986 at 7 : 30 P . M . 9 . Agenda item Iv-D ( New Business , Mobile Home Park Ord . review committee ) : L . Hirvonen asked if the Board wished to form a committee for this task . The consensus of the group was to wait until after the Land Use Ordinance has been revised . In general , members felt that they wished to take an in -depth look and completely revise the Mobile Home Park Ordinance but the amount of work entailed required finishing one project before instituting another . 10 . L . Hirvonen asked if the Board wished to form a nominating committee for officers for the Planning Board for 1986 . She announced t hat she would not be available to serve as president . Tis >w ger gelmmar MIMS 1R hila !o. Carol Kammen and Linda Hirvonen volunteered to serve as a nominating committee . They will bring names to the next regular meeting ( February 10 , 1986 ) for action at that time . 11 . Additional Business After some discussion in regard to a minor subdivision planned by Miles Munson ( 3 . 2 acres , 150 feet of road frontage , no new utilities , no roads ) it was : moved by Viola Miller , second by Carol Kammen to waive the required 300 foot road frontage ✓ equirement and the requirement that a lot cannot be more than three t imes its width . Passed Unanimously I12 . Additional Business : Viola Miller informed the Board that the County Planning Board would like a response from the Lansing Town Board on their preferences among the three Rt . 96 alternatives ( A , B , C ) . • Viola made the maps and descriptions of the various alternatives available to the group which reviewed them . Moved by Viola Miller , second by Fran Ramin that the Lansing Planning Board recommends to the Lansing Town Board Alternatave C for the Town Board ' s resolution and transmission to the Tompkins County Planning Board . Passed Unanimously . The meeting adjourned at 10 : 30 pm . • 1•