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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-04-14 4 � TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD Date : 14 April 1986 IIIPresent : Al White , Acting Chairman , L . Sharpsteen , H . Beckwith , C . Kammen , L . Hirvonen , V . Miller , F . Ramin Absent : J . Homa I . Buck Minor Subdivision - Mr . Bertran Buck Mr . Buck was directed to submit 4 copies of his survey map along with the fee to the Town Clerk . II . Bolyard Minor Subdivision - Public Hearing MOTION : L . Hirvonen moved that in the absense of any public input , the Bolyard minor subdivision located on Luce Rd . , be approved as submitted . Seconded by L . Sharpsteen carried unanimously . III . Roy Moore Jr . Minor Subdivision 411 A . Mr . Moore is proposing to subdivide his property located at 1870 E . Shore Dr . , bounded by a creek on the south and situated south of Colonial Cleaners on Route 34 . B . The sketch plan shows 3 lots approximately 1 . 3 acres , 4 acres , and 13 . 4 acres respectively , with a 60 ' right - of - way between the two smaller lots leading to the larger lot in the back . C . Mr . Moore has submitted his sketch plans and paid his fee to the Town Clerk . D . If Mr . Moore is able to bring in a survey map the Planning Board will schedule a public hearing for him on May 12 , 1986 at the Town Hall . E . MOTION : L . Sharpsteen moved to accept Mr . Moore ' s sketch plan . 3 for a minor subdivision located at 1870 E . Shore Dr . as submitted . Seconded by F . Ramin and carried unanimously . IV . Gerald Wells Minor Subdivision A . Mr . Wells has submitted a sketch plan for a 3 lot minor 41/ subdivision located off Lakeview Dr . in the development known as Fiddlers ' Green . .. B . Mr . Wells was represented by his attorney , Laura Holmberg . • After researching material at the Lansing Town Hall and the Tompkins County Court House which does not have a Final Plat on file for the Fiddlers ' Green major subdivision , and because there are no restrictions in Mr . Wells ' deed ( interpreted ) , Mrs . Holmberg feels there are no legal restrictions to the development of Mr . Wells ' lot . C . Many residents of the Fiddlers ' Green development , as well as neighbors of the area , were present . 1 . Mr . Jim Swayze , neighbor - questioned drainage . 2 . Mr . Danial Baugh _ presented 2 petitions , one signed by every member of the Fiddlers ' Green development and one signed by immediate neighbors , stating their concern that the character of the area will be adversely affected by this type of development as well as their concern that the physical aspects of the terrain will not support further development without causing environmental damage . • 3 . Mr . Roger Sovocool , attorney for Fiddlers ' Green land owners said that he had checked with the Planning Board on behalf o f his client when he was buying the land and was told that n o more subdividing would allowed . He also voiced concern ✓ egarding the private lane proposed by Mr . Wells , the precedent it would set , and the problems to the Town it would cause such as snow removal , busing and fire protection . 4 . All residents felt their deeds restricted further subdividing . Mr . Wells did not interpret his deed in that way . D . Further Discussion 1 . Mrs . Miller ( PB ) felt the entire Fiddlers ' Green subdivision should be reviewed in response to the resident ' s concern . 2 . Mr . John Hartman ( resident ) felt the Fiddlers ' Green subdivision to be in violation of a Town ordinance , there - fore approval of Mr . Well ' s subdivision would confirm an illegal act . j . Road • The Fiddlers ' Green Rd . has been deeded to the Town and e xtends to the south part of Wells ' property . The road has not been developed that far , there is a temporary turn - around and the Town has approved only that portion that has been completed . 2 4 . Mr . Wells stated that he "fished his proposal to be treated • as any other proposal would be treated and not judged for $ anyone elsets sins ( Mr . Finkledey ) . He also said that he had never wanted to be placed in an adversarial position . L .. Sharpsteen ( PB ) said that since Planning Board meetings are open to the public , everyone is welcome to attend . 5 . MOTION : H . Beckwith moved to table further discussion , seconded by V . Miller , carried unanimously . V . Thaler Subdivision - Richard Thaler A . Located on the north side of Hillcrest Rd . across from the Skyacres subdivision . B . Mr . Thaler wishes to have the development designated as a minor subdivision because it has only four lots . C . A final map for the subdivision was submitted as well as a drainage map . D . Water C . Kammen ( PB ) questioned the availability of water . Mr . Thaler and his engineer , L . Fabroni , felt that if' such a problem exists there are acceptable ways of dealing with it . Mr . Thaler feels that his property is critical to the development of public water in that area . For - this-- -reason --he—want-o- -to-- develop his land in phases . Any plan he might submit now mightnot make the best use of the land if/when public water becomes available . E . Road G . Wood , Building Inspector , said that State law prohibits him from issuing a building permit to any structure not on a public road . Mr . Thaler will need a statement from the Town Board accepting his road or a recommendation for acceptance from the Town Highway Superintendent . F . Drainage Mr . Thaler will specify in all deeds that field drainage is required . G . Public Hearing on Prelimina y Plat - will be held April 28 , 1986 at the Town Hall . 3 V I . Lucent e _PDA - Larry Fabroni , engineer . • Mr . Fabroni inquired as to the status of the PDA . A letter , received today from the NY Depart . of Environmental Conservation and dated April 3 , 1986 was read aloud . It designated the Lansing Town Board as the lead agency in the Environmental Impact study . Mr . Fabroni suggested that it would help the Town Board to be informed of prior discussions and areas of concern . L . Sharpsteen will forward copies of minutes and correspondence pertaining to the Lucente PDA to the Town Board . VII . Wells Minor Subdivision - further discussion A . Road ( Fiddlers ' Green ) - The Town has never been responsible for the development of a road . It must be determined who will complete the road . B . The Planning Board would like more information about the following : • 1 . wording of deeds - - establish intent 2 . water 3 . sewage disposal 4 . road ( private lane ) 5 . environment C . L . Hirvonen suggested that : 1 . however much we sympathize with the Fiddlers ' Green residents it might not be possible to bring the subdivision into compliance . 2 . we look at the current deed restrictions . 3 . we evaluate Mr . Wells ' subdivision as a separate entity . •