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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-06-11 TOWN OF LANSING PLA 4ING BOARD • Date : June 11 , 1984 *rime : 7 : 30 P . M . Present : Acting Chairman L . Hirvonen , V . Miller , L . Montague , J . Kirby Guests : Town Board - P . Munson , M . McElwee , L . Emmick , B . Hilliard , Gary Wood , Ordinance Officer , C . Paterni , R . Todd , R . Ducette , J . Stull , F . Spry , A . Cima , I . Burris I . Town of Lansing Planning Board Membership L . Hirvonen noted the resignation of H . Ley and L . Montague from the Board . This leaves three members on the Board . She asked the members of the Town Board if they wanted an entirely new Board . P . Munson felt that continuity was important . He personally, telt that the Planning Board ' s zoning ordinance was fine but many people d id not . He praised their work with subdivisions and said that was a large part of their. job . J ., Kirby wanted to know if there need be a Planning Board because t here was zoning already in part of the Town . P . Munson said it was a state regulation . - L . Emmick said he was sorry to see the number of people resigning f rom the Board . He asked if they ( the Town Board ) were to repre - sent the people how could they be for the zoning ordinance ? He also noted ti_ at with the coming of the fire and building codes there would be restrictions in the Town . ✓ . Miller said that the whole . thing amused her as it was the same element seventeen years ago and that zoning should have been put in. and put in quickly . She said that there were people on the. ® Planning Board who did not even understand the issue and that fire . codes had nothing to do: with zoning . She felt that some people could not look on a larger level , just for their personal needs and wants . L . Montague said he was not as tenacious as Viola Miller . He and some of the other members had worked many long years on the project and had nothing to show for it . He said that six good people have come and , gone because of the lack of support from the Town Board and the zoning officer ( R! . Stanton ) . He felt that people did not want it because they could not accept progress . He told those present that a trailer was recently jumped . between two houses on Lansingviile Road , no control over that either . P . Munson said that eventually zoning would be put in but could not say when . L . Montague asked when , Viola Miller has waited seventeen years and still no zoning how much longer did they h ave to wait , he questioned . B . :Milliard said that people move out to a rural area to do what they want , they want to be free . M . McElwee remarked that there was suck an overwhelming protest against zoning . She had personally made many phone calls to check on the people who had signed the petition . Many of those did not quite understand what the zoning was all about but signed anyways . Their information was nearly always inaccurate . She felt that the public ' should have been educated . Gary Wood would cooperate with the Planning Board she assured them . L . Montague reminded her that five years ago they sent out a list 411 of proposed ordinances for Lansing and about 90% of the people did not know anything about it or even care to know anything about it . V . Miller said that she stayed with the Planning Board because she likes Lansing and because she believes in it . She has been per- sonally grateful for zo tz . The Planning„ Board she advised has nothing to do with zoning anymore . It is in the Town Board ' s hand.% - 1 - oo %' Town of Lansing Planning Board Membership -continued . All P . Munson then introduced Gary Woods to those present and said that he would need about six months to catch up on the backlog of work . He asked L . Hirvonen for a list of names for the Planning Board and she said it was up to the Town Board . The members of the Town Board left the meeting - 8 : 15P . M . II . Proposed Subdivision of Ivan Burris - Asbury and Armstrong Roads L . 14iontague gave a quick review of Mr . Burris ' plans to change from a minor to a major subdivision . Mir . Burris said that • all of the lots would be on a public road and that there was access to the land in the rear of the property . He said that telephone and electric would be underground and that he had sold three lots with three more to go . . He had received Health Department approval . He ' will maintain ownership of the property . I . Hirvonen said that there would have to be a public hearing and it would be set up prior to the next meeting on July 9th at 7 : 30 P . I . Gary Woods will put. a notice in the Ithaca Journal . MOTION : L . Montague moved that the preliminary plat for the pro- posed subdivision of Ivan Burris located on Asbury Road and Armstrong Road in the Town of Lansing be approved . V . Miller seconded the motion , carried unanimously . I . Burris then left the meeting - 8 : 35 P . M . - Paterni Property - Conlon and Buck Roads C . Paterni brought in a map as requested by the Board at the May 411 meeting . He said that the water had been tested by the salt com- pany . According to R . Ducette the septic systems on the sold parcels had been approved by the Health Department . Mr . Paterni said that he did not . want to sell any more land except to J . Stull . L . Hirvonen told him that the Planning Board wanted to help him in case he might cnange his mind and want to sell more land in the future . R . Todd said he. needed one more acre of land to meet Health De - partment requirements for his trailers presently located there . L . Montague told Mr . Paterni that P . Munson could help him with the subdivision plans he would have to submit - . L . hirvonen felt that the map hr . sterni brought in could be accepted as a sketch plan and that he could sell R . Todd one acre of land without changing it from a minor to a major subdivision . J . Stull would like the issue settled soon as he would like to start his plans soon . Mr . Paterni agreed to return to the July meeting with a subdivision plan . C . Paterni , R . Ducette , J . Stull and R . Todd then left the meeting - 9 : 05 P . M . IV . Searles Road J . Kirby will discuss the problem of Searles Road with Gary Woods . V . Proposed Subdivision - The Horizons " - A . Circa 411 L . Hirvonen told A . Cima that he would need sketch plan approval for a PDA . A . Cima passed around sketches of ;. proposed building structures and noted that some would nave to be scaled down from condominiums to rental units . He figured it would take four or more years to com- plete this . He would like to include garages and plantings to make the area more attractive . V . Miller asked him about water and sewer approval . _ He said he had - 2 - • Proposed Subdivision - " The Horizons " - A . Cima - continued . approval of the sketch plan and likely water and sewer would be available from Cayuga Heights .. He showed a ' sketch of a slow drain pond . MOTION : L . Montague moved that the preliminary sketch plan for a PDA for " The Horizons " subdivision _ )roposed by A . Cima in the Town of Lansing be approved . J . Kirby seconded the motion , carried unanimously . A . Circa left the meeting at 10 : 00 P . M . Vi . Orear Property L . Montague said that an architect called him because N . Stanton told him he could not uuild as the proposed home was not on a main roads He noted that Orear ' s plans had been approved by the Board . L . Hirvonen said that 100 ' frontage was necessary for building . . V . Miller suggested turning it over to Gary Woods . L . Montague will do so . I .. Planning Board Membership - continued . The question of filling vacancies left on the Board by three members resigning was discussed . Several names were suggested , they include : Larry Sharpsteen Herb Beckwith Al Wacko Jerry Burke ® L . Montague noted that both H . Beckwith and A . Waeko were against zoning . Florita Nortlock was also mentioned . MOTION : V . Killer moved that the resignation of S . Cleveland be accepted with regret . L . Hirvonen seconded the motion , carried unanimously . VII . Other Business Minutes May 14 , 1984 POTION : V . Miller moved that the minutes of May 14 , 1984 be accented as read . L . Montague seconded the motion , Carried unanimously . Meeting adjourned : 10 : 30 P . M . Next Meeting : July 9 , 1984 - 7 : 30 P . M . • 41/ v;S `ti " '. n: K`w , c • . q '?.. l . -3 -